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Native Black Marsh Argonian Healer - What would you guys pick as a class?
Nyladreas
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As the title says, I'm planing on creating an Argonian character in ESO for the first time and immersion plays a huge deal for me.
Which class would you guys pick for a healing character while keeping immersion and "reality" in mind?
Would it be a Templar or should I wait for Warden? (All recent class changess and patch notes aside please, I'm not interested in your whining)
I want the character to fit well into the world of Elder Scrolls.
Please explain or elaborate if you choose the option "Neither"
Edited by Nyladreas on April 29, 2017 8:01PM Which class would you guys pick for a healing character while keeping immersion and "reality" in mind?
Would it be a Templar or should I wait for Warden? (All recent class changess and patch notes aside please, I'm not interested in your whining)
I want the character to fit well into the world of Elder Scrolls.
Please explain or elaborate if you choose the option "Neither"
Native Black Marsh Argonian Healer - What would you guys pick as a class? 52 votes
Warden
63%
33 votes
Templar
17%
9 votes
Neither
19%
10 votes
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itehache✭✭✭✭WardenI would actually wait for a Warden in case you will be purchasing Morrowind. Their connection to nature will make it more immersive and real, in my opinion. I think Warden argonians will be incredible healers (as per numbers), but also I think you will enjoy it a lot since it will feel more natural in a way. It's difficult to express, but I understand what you mean. I always see a templar as a priest, and I kinda relate them more to elves. I think a warden would be more enjoyable if you really care about immersion.
However if you do not want to wait until June just run a templar. Just take into account you cannot change classes!0 -
WardenI love the Argonians, and yeah, Warden seems to fit the immersion factor the best. Also, have you seen the Treeminder costume in the crates...0
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✭✭✭✭Wardenoldskoorpg74 wrote: »I love the Argonians, and yeah, Warden seems to fit the immersion factor the best. Also, have you seen the Treeminder costume in the crates...
Haha yeah I'm actually thinking about spending some gems on that one.
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✭WardenSetting aside my lukewarm feelings about the classes in general in this game, I think it might be easier to associate the skills of the Warden with the culture of the Saxhleel.'Pure rains make sweet rivers'0 -
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✭✭✭✭WardenThanks everybody everybody for the votes and replies so far, It's pretty much just as I thought it would be
Setting aside my lukewarm feelings about the classes in general in this game, I think it might be easier to associate the skills of the Warden with the culture of the Saxhleel.
What would be a perfectly fitting class or set of skills for a true argonian healer, in pure imagination and theory? I'm actually curious.
I'm pretty new to Argonian lore, I love my Khajiit too much lol.
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Hey, All I see when Looking at the warden iS defIniTely nature magic tHat I See as much more in keeping with the argonian than the holy lights and fires of the templar show-off.
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✭✭✭✭TemplarMost are going to argue for Warden, but the Ice line doesn't seem to fit Argonians well, as they prefer swamp like conditions. The animal companions and nature lines seem more Bosmer than Argonian.
My vote is Templar because it has a healing skill line (hist-healing) and a skill line that draws power from the sun (like the hist tree would).
Alternatively, Nightblade has Shadow and Assassin lines that fit Shadowscale themes (if your character is born under the sign of the shadow), and the Siphoning skill line for healing.2 -
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✭✭✭✭WardenGrumpyDuckling wrote: »Most are going to argue for Warden, but the Ice line doesn't seem to fit Argonians well, as they prefer swamp like conditions. The animal companions and nature lines seem more Bosmer than Argonian.
My vote is Templar because it has a healing skill line (hist-healing) and a skill line that draws power from the sun (like the hist tree would).
Alternatively, Nightblade has Shadow and Assassin lines that fit Shadowscale themes (if your character is born under the sign of the shadow), and the Siphoning skill line for healing.
I see, aren't Nightblades horrible healers though? I never see any.0 -
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✭✭✭✭TemplarGrumpyDuckling wrote: »Most are going to argue for Warden, but the Ice line doesn't seem to fit Argonians well, as they prefer swamp like conditions. The animal companions and nature lines seem more Bosmer than Argonian.
My vote is Templar because it has a healing skill line (hist-healing) and a skill line that draws power from the sun (like the hist tree would).
Alternatively, Nightblade has Shadow and Assassin lines that fit Shadowscale themes (if your character is born under the sign of the shadow), and the Siphoning skill line for healing.
I see, aren't Nightblades horrible healers though? I never see any.
I wouldn't call them horrible. The benefit of a Nightblade healer is that you can do damage while you're healing, so as long as your team is serviceable enough not to use you as a crutch all the time, you're actually a pretty solid help to the team. Here are some positives to consider:
- 8% additional magicka for slotting a Siphoning skill (which you will always have as a healer).
- healing skills also provide damage (Refreshing Path, Sap Essence)
- Catalyst passive synergy with Argonian is nice
- Soul Siphon ultimate is a nice burst emergency team heal
- each Siphoning skill slotted grants additional healing
- Veil of Blades gives team protection + damage
- Bolstering Darkness is awesome for keeping you alive and aids teammates
- Shades + Fear abilities offer minor maim in case tank isn't debuffing enemy power
- if you PVP, then Piercing Mark offers long debuff and reveal option to help counter gankers
- Mirage offers extra defense and miss chance to keep you, the healer alive in tight spots1 -
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✭✭✭✭TemplarOh, and I also forgot to mention Dark Cloak, which is awesome for additional defense, positioning, and disappearing if you want to be a tactical PVP healer.0 -
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✭✭As the title says, I'm planing on creating an Argonian character in ESO for the first time and immersion plays a huge deal for me.
Which class would you guys pick for a healing character while keeping immersion and "reality" in mind?
Would it be a Templar or should I wait for Warden? (All recent class changess and patch notes aside please, I'm not interested in your whining)
I want the character to fit well into the world of Elder Scrolls.
Please explain or elaborate if you choose the option "Neither"
You want an honest response but you chose to lump the other 3 healers into a "neither" category ?0 -
Kerioko✭✭✭✭NeitherWhy not NB?
The ability to get extra bonuses for dabbling in alchemy.
The ability to sap life from your enemies to restore health to your allies.
The fitting lore of the shadowscale.
And if you really want to go full immersion, go vampire for the full bloodmage effect.
I have managed to heal all content in game with an argonian NB healer. Sure they may not be BiS for your top tier raiding guilds, but with proper group coordination, they are more than capable of handling the healing duties for everything in game.Dinosaur Chicken Nuggets - Argonian mNB Tank/Heals (PVP)
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✭✭✭✭✭WardenYeah, if you haven't made the character yet and you want an Immersive Argonian Healer, then wait for the Warden. I highly doubt Argonians on the whole are followers of Stendarr.CP1,900+ Master Explorer - AvA One Star General - Console Peasant - The Clan
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✭✭✭✭Wardenexeeter702 wrote: »As the title says, I'm planing on creating an Argonian character in ESO for the first time and immersion plays a huge deal for me.
Which class would you guys pick for a healing character while keeping immersion and "reality" in mind?
Would it be a Templar or should I wait for Warden? (All recent class changess and patch notes aside please, I'm not interested in your whining)
I want the character to fit well into the world of Elder Scrolls.
Please explain or elaborate if you choose the option "Neither"
You want an honest response but you chose to lump the other 3 healers into a "neither" category ?
Obviously I'm not an expert so how about you give me options and examples instead of dismissing the whole thing. I havent seen a single NB, Sorc or DK healer in a single dungeon so far, therefore I assume they are not viable.
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Obviously I'm not an expert so how about you give me options and examples instead of dismissing the whole thing. I havent seen a single NB, Sorc or DK healer in a single dungeon so far, therefore I assume they are not viable.
If you use group finder for dungeons, the reason you only see templar heals is the same reason you only see DK tanks. Everyone has it in their heads that DK's are the only viable tanks and Templars are the only viable healers. If you are anything other than that, you risk getting auto kicked before you even start the dungeon.
The truth is though (aside from competitive HM trials), any class can heal any content in game perfectly fine. The only downfall of not having a templar healer is no shards for tanks, but this can be overcome using things like a master resto and the sentinel monster set.
My current NB setup runs 5 SPC/3 Willpower/2 Sentinel with malestrom and master resto staves. Throw in orbs and siphon spirit (or ele drain if I replace vMA resto for vMA shock) and I have no problem keeping a group topped off in resources and heals!
This set-up has also worked really well for me on the PTS because my Hots allow me time to heavy attack to proc major mending and to quickly recover my own resources.
Dinosaur Chicken Nuggets - Argonian mNB Tank/Heals (PVP)
Strawberry Semifreddo - Dunmer mSorc DPS // Sunny D-Light - Breton mTemp Heals
Peanut Butter Sandwich - Orc sDK DPS // Kellogg's Frosted Flakes - Argonian mWard Tank/Heals (PVE)Cor-Leonisfriendship - integrity - perseverance1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭NeitherI was going to say dk healer actually.... fire breathing lizard healer.... that or nightblade healer for the shadow scale lore. Ice and bears don't fit with reptiles and swamps imho#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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✭✭✭✭WardenWarden, from what we know, seems fitting to all that Saxhleel ambient. Well, maybe ice and bear are not that lore friendly to a resident of Black Marsh, but I guess Zos didn't want to give us Wamasu ultimate yet.0 -
Kerioko✭✭✭✭NeitherWarden, from what we know, seems fitting to all that Saxhleel ambient. Well, maybe ice and bear are not that lore friendly to a resident of Black Marsh, but I guess Zos didn't want to give us Wamasu ultimate yet.
That would be sick. Zos needs to make different skins for summoned pets!
Dinosaur Chicken Nuggets - Argonian mNB Tank/Heals (PVP)
Strawberry Semifreddo - Dunmer mSorc DPS // Sunny D-Light - Breton mTemp Heals
Peanut Butter Sandwich - Orc sDK DPS // Kellogg's Frosted Flakes - Argonian mWard Tank/Heals (PVE)Cor-Leonisfriendship - integrity - perseverance1 -
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✭✭✭Warden, from what we know, seems fitting to all that Saxhleel ambient. Well, maybe ice and bear are not that lore friendly to a resident of Black Marsh, but I guess Zos didn't want to give us Wamasu ultimate yet.
That would be sick. Zos needs to make different skins for summoned pets!
What about race based Ultimate for Warden?
Wamasu for Argonians
Bear for Bosmer
Troll for Nords
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✭✭✭✭WardenSilver_Strider wrote: »Warden, from what we know, seems fitting to all that Saxhleel ambient. Well, maybe ice and bear are not that lore friendly to a resident of Black Marsh, but I guess Zos didn't want to give us Wamasu ultimate yet.
That would be sick. Zos needs to make different skins for summoned pets!
What about race based Ultimate for Warden?
Wamasu for Argonians
Bear for Bosmer
Troll for Nords
And so on.
And Breton for Altmers.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Silver_Strider wrote: »Warden, from what we know, seems fitting to all that Saxhleel ambient. Well, maybe ice and bear are not that lore friendly to a resident of Black Marsh, but I guess Zos didn't want to give us Wamasu ultimate yet.
That would be sick. Zos needs to make different skins for summoned pets!
What about race based Ultimate for Warden?
Wamasu for Argonians
Bear for Bosmer
Troll for Nords
And so on.
And Breton for Altmers.
Ahahahaha.1
