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Show some love for Nightblades :(

vpy
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I have been playing ESO for a month.

I have been maining a stamblade so far (around 20 now) and just for kicks I started leveling a Sorc.

I find a world of difference with respect to the ease of leveling and survivability as Sorcerer.

I am nearly invincible against trash/regular/quest/x number of mobs.... and even pretty tough to own in duel.

Nightblades are in serious need for some buffs or something...I could be wrong ofc seeing I have not maxed out my NB but my gut instinct says that the NB toon will not magically become better at max level when compared to Sorc.
  • GrumpyDuckling
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    vpy wrote: »
    I have been playing ESO for a month.

    I have been maining a stamblade so far (around 20 now) and just for kicks I started leveling a Sorc.

    I find a world of difference with respect to the ease of leveling and survivability as Sorcerer.

    I am nearly invincible against trash/regular/quest/x number of mobs.... and even pretty tough to own in duel.

    Nightblades are in serious need for some buffs or something...I could be wrong ofc seeing I have not maxed out my NB but my gut instinct says that the NB toon will not magically become better at max level when compared to Sorc.

    I know the feeling.

    When playing Nightblade I am hunched forward in my seat, intently focused on the screen with the rest of the world blocked out of existence because every button press is critical.

    When playing Sorcerer I lean back in my chair with my feet up, listen to my partner recap her day, and simply relax. Haha this has made me realize how much better Sorcerer is for my health.
  • Publius_Scipio
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    Magicka sorcs are are pretty much right now the pound for pound kings in ESO for pretty much any scenario.

    People think NBs are "op" because you have very slippery (in combat) top tier meta NBs running around. But no NB spec right now in the game can match a well put together magicka sorc, DK, templar.
  • FloppyTouch
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    Nerf sorc!
  • Runschei
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    *hugs OP because I'm a nb too and I feel you*
  • Tasear
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    Just be nightblade Healer! You will DPS more than other Healers and get instance queued.
  • Marabornwingrion
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    Nerf sorc!

    Maybe stop nerfing everything, and buff other classes instead to be as good as sorc?
  • GrumpyDuckling
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    Astrid_V wrote: »
    Nerf sorc!

    Maybe stop nerfing everything, and buff other classes instead to be as good as sorc?

    That would be awesome in PVE. I'd love for all my classes to be as easy going in dungeons as my magicka sorcerer. In PVP I would probably get frustrated though. Right now I just avoid sorcerers, but any other class I feel comfortable to compete with in their current state.
  • TheUrbanWizard
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    I feel your pain op, its just that my nb is so much fun to play when things are going well despite his squishiness!

    Edit: Don't worry, our time will come again
    Edited by TheUrbanWizard on April 28, 2017 7:58AM
  • Dracindo
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    I feel you man. Best example to show NB needs love:
    I have a NB main, lv 50 champion over 100, donned with set pieces (not the best, but still a boost), and what used to be the meta-skills in those days.
    I also have (well, had) a lv 13 sorc (now 20), donned with random armor from random mobs and loot (only a few set items) and with regular skills that are meant for levelling up the class' skills, so no real meta build.

    With both of these characters, I duelled with a friend (DK, probably had something to do with it) who just started the game. I had no problem taking him down with the sorc, but I couldn't even get his health below 90% with my NB. I know this is because of the whole One Tamriel thing, but seriously, the guy went for a DPS built, slithly tanky.

    Show us poor Nightblades some love.
  • Shadowasrial
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    Let my people go! Remove the shackles you have placed on nightblades. We are the worst class for pve and steadily dropping ever lower on the pvp spectrum. And a nightblade is supposed to be able to have high burst damage ZOS it's the only way to get away alive because if you don't kill them before they can gather thier bearings they will kill our squishy asses. That's comeing from me a 790 cp praetorian ranked stam nightblade. You keep nerfing us into the ground with every patch. And every patch makes it so we can play less and less pve as well. So if your going to make pvp the only thing we can do well then stop nerfing us even further
    Edited by Shadowasrial on April 28, 2017 6:02PM
  • casparian
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    Tasear wrote: »
    Just be nightblade Healer! You will DPS more than other Healers and get instance queued.

    Magblade healers are actually in a pretty good place headed into the next patch. The Orbs change was great for us.
    7-day PVP campaign regular 2016-2019, Flawless Conqueror. MagDK/stamplar/stamwarden/mageblade. Requiem, Legend, Knights of Daggerfall. Currently retired from the wars; waiting on performance improvements.
  • FlyLionel
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    That is hilarious. Even the new players are saying NB are underpowered..come on Zos; with this + the poll..
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  • Tryxus
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    Amen, fellow brother of the shadows
    "Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
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  • gediv2
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    Get a clue ZOS.
  • Elsterchen
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    From a templar with love: <3

    Lets find a quiet place and cry a little...
  • PixelJunkie
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    really wanted to level my Magicka NB but there's no point ATM so i know how you feel +1
  • Rickter
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    People still complain about dizzying swing? Do anyone even know what surprise attack can do? Easy to land....Buffs You resistance....Major fracture your opponent .....And stuns from cloak....Oh and hits for over 9k. People still saying buff nightblade lol

    nuff said
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  • Shadow-Fighter
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    Elsterchen wrote: »
    From a templar with love: <3

    Lets find a quiet place and cry a little...

    Let me rest in peace!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJO5l2g6lS8

    :)
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  • Runschei
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    Elsterchen wrote: »
    From a templar with love: <3

    Lets find a quiet place and cry a little...

    Let me rest in peace!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJO5l2g6lS8

    :)

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  • ljb2k5_ESO
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    I don't mind the power of Sorcs, I don't want them nerfed, I want others buffed. The Nightblade won (or lost) a recent forum poll for the worst class. They don't do anything better than anyone else. In the PTS they even lose their niche as a stealth ambusher/guerrilla fighter with the loss of stealth bonus crit damage. Well what else do they do? They can maybe speed burst 1 opponent before they are zerged into the ground, and that is if they are running BiS and a perfect build. Otherwise their dps isn't more powerful than other classes survival, and other classes DPS is right up there or better to boot. They don't have the heals to win face to face, nor shields. So my question is, what does the Nightblade actually bring to the table now that other classes don't do better? Their movement speed in stealth is even getting nerfed down, so scouting isn't even still their niche.
    Edited by ljb2k5_ESO on April 28, 2017 6:48PM
  • FlyLionel
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    Rickter wrote: »
    People still complain about dizzying swing? Do anyone even know what surprise attack can do? Easy to land....Buffs You resistance....Major fracture your opponent .....And stuns from cloak....Oh and hits for over 9k. People still saying buff nightblade lol

    nuff said

    @Rickter No one uses surprise attack in pve because it doesn't stack with Pierced Armor. Nuff said....or wait 50/50? Also do not deduce a class to one spammable that only Stamina is able to use effectively. There's a broader spectrum wouldn't you agree? Bigger things happen outside of no cp.

    Edit: Templars just have purge/DK just has mending/Sorcerers have shields etc.
    Edited by FlyLionel on April 28, 2017 6:51PM
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  • mb10
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    ZOS just press the delete button on NBs

    You practically have already made them completely useless in PVE and PVP should just DELETE them

    So many salty ZOS employees got ganked is my theory
  • Arrchangell
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    I'm always happy to see threads like this, and then i realize that ZoS ain't even gonna do anything about it.
  • Mordenkainen
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    Rickter wrote: »
    People still complain about dizzying swing? Do anyone even know what surprise attack can do? Easy to land....Buffs You resistance....Major fracture your opponent .....And stuns from cloak....Oh and hits for over 9k. People still saying buff nightblade lol

    nuff said

    Now try to do that as MagNB with Lotus fan.

    Oh I should also mention the entirety of the game is not limited to PvP and stamina only.

    I'll be over here waving from my Magicka NB seat somewhere far in the back.
  • Kalante
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    Dark cloak does not even work properly when getting soul assaulted. Every time you get soul assault, you can not activate dark cloak for a fraction of a second even though you are at max magicka. That skill soul assault also makes you struggle to bar swap when you are getting hit with it. There are some serious issues going on with soul assault. As if running a stam nb was not hard enough we gotta deal with bugs too. That is something that is barely talked about and not taken into account. Stam nb is already a hard class to use as it is and then you have to deal with bugs that weaken it even more on top of it. Like when is it enough???
    Edited by Kalante on April 28, 2017 7:20PM
  • gediv2
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    Get a Clue ZOS.
  • jamesj118b14_ESO
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    Kalante wrote: »
    Every time you get soul assault, you can not activate dark cloak for a fraction of a second even though you are at max magicka.

    Well, if you read the skill description, you might find a reason for this.
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    problem with nighblades (and I say that as someone who mains a stamblade and saw the same world of difference between a sorc and a nighblade leveling) is that as weak as they are in pve... they have RIDICULOUS burst in pvp. and Zos doesn't seem to be able to figure out how to nerf THAT without completely destroying nightblades for everything outside of stealth ganking. and they still haven't really nerfed that either.

    nightblade balancing is sorely needed. something that will make them not such a pain to solo/do group pve content on, while still keeping them balanced for pvp.

    honestly IMO? they should just make animation canceling impossible, but... I doubt it would happen for multiple reasons :/
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  • Kalante
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    Kalante wrote: »
    Every time you get soul assault, you can not activate dark cloak for a fraction of a second even though you are at max magicka.

    Well, if you read the skill description, you might find a reason for this.

    Please show me where does it say that soul assault "nagates" dark cloak because that's basically what happens. Does soul assault has some sort of negate built into it like the sorc ultimate? because i sure as hell don't see it on it's description. @jamesj118b14_ESO
    Edited by Kalante on April 28, 2017 7:49PM
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