BSW without pets and necro with pets.

I'd personally recommend: 5pcs. Necropotence, 3pcs. Moondancer, 2pcs. Llambris, 1x Maelstrom's Inferno Staff, and 1x Maelstrom's Lightning Staff.

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

I'd personally recommend: 5pcs. Necropotence, 3pcs. Moondancer, 2pcs. Llambris, 1x Maelstrom's Inferno Staff, and 1x Maelstrom's Lightning Staff.

Way to "personally recommend" the meta. Haha (just make the front bar staff a moondancer).

That would work. That way you would get the 4pcs. bonus of Moondancer (increasing spell damage). I'd personally aim for the Moondancer staff to be inferno (as it is best suited as the primary weapon), that way you can still have your secondary weapon to be a lightning staff to proc the lightning damage from Llambris with Wall of Elements. Even more so, as it will have better synergy with the build.

rosendoichinoveb17_ESO wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

BSW without pets and necro with pets.

Can you guys please explain why would you want to run Necro in vet trials. Wouldn't pets be one shotted all the time and take agro in situations when you would want to stack mobs together?

Pets dont aggro things by themselves, but yes, you do need to keep an eye on them. They can be controlled to some degree. There are a few fight that will one shot a pet (first two VMOL bosses), and some other fights that cause other issues (AA last boss, your pets can cause chain lighting to kill your buddies), but they are safe to use for the most part. You just need to know when and where you can use them. In VMOL, the only fight I dont like them is the twins. Even though they die to pillars on the first boss, they are still worth using. The sorc pet (volatile familiar) is about the highest damage skill in the game at the moment, and it's AOE.

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

I'd personally recommend: 5pcs. Necropotence, 3pcs. Moondancer, 2pcs. Llambris, 1x Maelstrom's Inferno Staff, and 1x Maelstrom's Lightning Staff.

Way to "personally recommend" the meta. Haha (just make the front bar staff a moondancer).

That would work. That way you would get the 4pcs. bonus of Moondancer (increasing spell damage). I'd personally aim for the Moondancer staff to be inferno (as it is best suited as the primary weapon), that way you can still have your secondary weapon to be a lightning staff to proc the lightning damage from Llambris with Wall of Elements. Even more so, as it will have better synergy with the build.

Ha. It does work. 2 VMA staffs is redundant. On a sorc, you want a back bar VMA staff because that is where we slot blockade. Having a moondancer front bar not only gives you the forth piece of the moondancer set (spell damage) it also allows you to run a spell damage glyph on your front bar staff.

As for fire or lighting, it depends on the class and build. On a pet sorc, lighting is actually a better front bar weapon for bosses and AOE, but non-pet with BSW, fire is a better front bar for pure single target, which is why I carry both. In VMOL, I run lighting and necro except the twin fight where I go BSW and double fire. In a proper group, you pretty much always want back bar fire on a sorc.

This is also the reason Necro staffs are pricey. If you dont have VMA/Moondancer staffs, you can just run two necro staffs, and run 4 pieces each of Moondancer and necro gear on your body (armor and jewelry), which gives 5 necro, 4 moondancer, 2 Ilambris at all times. This is slightly outperformed by a combo of Moondancer and VMA staffs, but you need both, which most people dont have. Is the grind worth 2k-3k DPS? Well, that's up to you.

rosendoichinoveb17_ESO wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

I'd personally recommend: 5pcs. Necropotence, 3pcs. Moondancer, 2pcs. Llambris, 1x Maelstrom's Inferno Staff, and 1x Maelstrom's Lightning Staff.

Way to "personally recommend" the meta. Haha (just make the front bar staff a moondancer).

That would work. That way you would get the 4pcs. bonus of Moondancer (increasing spell damage). I'd personally aim for the Moondancer staff to be inferno (as it is best suited as the primary weapon), that way you can still have your secondary weapon to be a lightning staff to proc the lightning damage from Llambris with Wall of Elements. Even more so, as it will have better synergy with the build.

Isn't farming vMSA sharpened staff faster than a Moondancer or Infallible sharpened staff. I mean 1 MSA run takes abount an hour and a normal trial (for staff farm) could take more with a lower change of drop I think. Or am I mistaken?

Both grinds are bad. I have sharp light and fire of both Moondancer and VMA. VMA took a little longer, but not much, both took about a year. The thing is, to get them to outperform just running necro staffs (BOE) you need both. One doesnt cut it. The nice thing about Moondancer farming is you can do it on normal mode. If you got the gold, you can usually start a bidding war as they are BOG. Sharp Moondancer staffs go from 500k-1Million gold like nothing when they drop.

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Astrid_V wrote: »

After testing different gear (bsw and necro), different type of staves on bars (lighting/inferno), skills (with and without pet), CPs and rotations, the best results I had with:
5x necropotence
2x ilambris
3x moondancer
2x lighting staves

75 thaumaturge
25 elfborn
100 elemental expert

Obviously lightning staves... You aren't going to use a lightning wall in a trial. You're using the fire one. So use the damn fire staff! All that matter is raid parses, not target dummy parses. I know, its really fun hitting 48k DPS with double lightning... But it just doesn't reflect your raid capabilities, due to the RNG on concussion (and thus off-balance). You could get lucky and get 80-90% uptime and get 48k DPS (I'm literally at 47.9k at the moment lol).

Btw, your CP setup isn't that optimal. It should be more like: 99 Elemental, 26 Elfborn and 75 Thaumaturge; Elfborn suffers from jump points, so at 25 points you're only getting as much value as the previous jump point (in this case 22).

Agree about the jump points. Probably splitting hairs, but I run 98 into ele and 1 into staff expert. Elfborn jump points arent talked about too much, but you need to pay attention to them:

1,2,4,7,9,12,15,18,22,26,29,33,38,42,46,51,56,61,66,71,76,81,87,92, and 98

Only put those numbers into elfborn, any number in between is effectly rounded down to the one below so they are wasted points.