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Zhaj'hassa the Forgotten has been soloed!

  • Beardimus
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    This is awesome work, real dedication to work on it tirelessly

    I will say tho dude in terms of forum appetite, timing could have been better. There's enough Sorc hate as there is, now this amazing feat, which only 0.01% of people could do will be used as a general Nerf sorc line over and over, and that also in turn downplays your skill, which is incredible as it will be made about the class.
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  • lunalitetempler
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    Vaoh wrote: »
    Vaoh wrote: »
    See why we can't continue with the power creep?

    Fun Fact: It's doable with the Morrowind patch's current rendition on PTS. Just more difficult/time-consuming ofc. It's skill that makes this possible, not a power creep.

    Tell what you just said to the non-"1%" of players who don't breeze through PvE content or complete vMoL HM with little effort.

    Then if you can do this in next patch why are people moaning? What's the big deal?

    People are "moaning" because the Morrowind patch notes as a whole are terrible. This is due to both ZOS tampering with so many different forms of Cost Reduction and making certain things scale off character level instead of Max Stats.

    All the while we see Templars have class-defining skills gutted, DKs nerfed, Nightblades granted the title of *definitive* worst PvE class, Sorcs left untouched, and other gameplay mechanics changed unfavorably. No single player will ever change the balance of ESO by simply being good at the game. Feel free to believe I have enough influence to cause the nerfs we see in the recent patch notes though :lol:

    We will always have people moan for the same reason you did in your first comment - a lack of knowledge regarding the situation and an urge to troll.

    I dont think the patch is awful, i like it alot. Thats their problem not mine ^^ Implying someone is stupid or a troll because they dont agree is too easy, its called an opinion which im entitled to thanks!
    Edited by lunalitetempler on April 24, 2017 12:44PM
  • Riggsy
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    OP says any class can do this but is then challenged about doing it on other characters and won't, he says he only plays sorc....
    Next OP says the Morrowind patch won't hurt his ability to do this yet he has zero proof backing up this claim other than that he *thinks* he could continue to do it.
    And as fate would have it sorcs aren't getting nerfed, as a class, in Morrowind.
    No, OP isnt responsible for the other class nerfs but videos like this, which he hopes will garner applause for his efforts, is salt in recently opened wounds in relation to the upcoming expansion and I can see why people are vexed instead of congratulatory.

    Edited by Riggsy on April 24, 2017 12:54PM
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  • lunalitetempler
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    Riggsy wrote: »
    OP says any class can do this but is then challenged about doing it on other characters and won't, he says he only plays sorc....
    Next OP says the Morrowind patch won't hurt his ability to do this yet he has zero proof backing up this claim other than that he *thinks* he could continue to do it.
    And as fate would have it sorcs aren't getting nerfed, as a class, in Morrowind.
    No, OP isnt responsible for the other class nerfs but videos like this, which he hopes will garner applause for his efforts, is salt in recently opened wounds in relation to the upcoming expansion and I can see why people are vexed instead of congratulatory.

    Not everyone is impressed by solo stuff :P
  • Ch4mpTW
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    Riggsy wrote: »
    OP says any class can do this but is then challenged about doing it on other characters and won't, he says he only plays sorc....
    Next OP says the Morrowind patch won't hurt his ability to do this yet he has zero proof backing up this claim other than that he *thinks* he could continue to do it.
    And as fate would have it sorcs aren't getting nerfed, as a class, in Morrowind.
    No, OP isnt responsible for the other class nerfs but videos like this, which he hopes will garner applause for his efforts, is salt in recently opened wounds in relation to the upcoming expansion and I can see why people are vexed instead of congratulatory.

    Not everyone is impressed by solo stuff :P

    For me, it's just... Eh... I mean, I do solo content. Or rather I used to. But like, I just have my own personal reasons why I'm not impressed nor exactly amazed by it. Is it worth congrats? Of course. But am I going to sit here, and indulge in the constant showerings of praise? N'ah. Not at all. Especially when — eh... Let me stop.
  • MonkeyD00
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    congrats! :)
  • SneaK
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    Repentance really is overpowered and needs to become obsolete, same goes for Shards.




    jk

    Very cool stuff, I envy people like you with patience, tis a virtue I have not mastered, or even apprenticed. I'm not a big PvE'r but these solo fights you are able to complete are extremely impressive. Very nice to see a solo player getting worth out of content like this, great stuff, keep it coming.
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  • waterfairy
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    Question: HOW DID YOU NOT CRASH DUDE?!

    #vMolBroken......

    I bet he didn't crash because he was solo. 12 people in the same space spamming a bunch of skills along with the boss is probably part of the problem why trials crash. Then again vma crashed for me on stage 2 so who knows.
  • amasuriel
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    Amazing job!

    Don't listen to the nerf haters, many people who actually watch the video can see that your survival is due to excellent timing and user of skills, not because sorc is OP.

    I cannot imagine how long you spent doing this to get here, truly impressive!
  • DMuehlhausen
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    Yeah it's funny watching these videos where people soloing raid bosses, but then they cry they will be under powered with these nerfs. WELL DUH! You shouldn't be able to solo raid bosses. At least not until you are like 40 levels or so above the boss like you can do it games like WoW
  • KingJ
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    @Vaoh so who better you or @Thelon when it comes to solo content?
  • andreasranasen
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    KingJ wrote: »
    @Vaoh so who better you or @Thelon when it comes to solo content?

    @Vaoh @Thelon If I did RP, these two were the master wizards that taught my sorceress everything lol :sunglasses:
    Edited by andreasranasen on April 24, 2017 2:57PM
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  • NBrookus
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    Awesome stuff @Vaoh Personally I'd go insane spending that many hours learning each encounter. :)

    As for all those insisting "this is why we need nerfs," please showcase your own videos accomplishing these things. Or anyone else's? If it's so easy because everyone is OP, why can't more people manage it?

    Having ONE player who can play at this level is not justification for nerfing everyone to his level. ZOS knows this. On PTS I am still able to solo mechanics-heavy world bosses on magplar with no gear changes. It's just longer, harder and more boring.
  • Dantaria
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    So much LOL for those who say stuff like:
    Then if you can do this in next patch why are people moaning? What's the big deal?
    See why we can't continue with the power creep?
    Yeah it's funny watching these videos where people soloing raid bosses, but then they cry they will be under powered with these nerfs. WELL DUH! You shouldn't be able to solo raid bosses. At least not until you are like 40 levels or so above the boss like you can do it games like WoW
    Stuff like this shows why we need nerfs.

    The deal is that Vaoh is like... 0.000000000001% of the player base? The deal is that he is the only one who did it? The deal is that he is also in 0.0001% of the playerbase who passed vet MoL HM?

    The simple players - you, me, countless of others - didn't even do simple vet MoL. Well. I certainly didn't.

    When the patch hits - if it hits - those who did vet MoL HM will still do vet MoL HM. And will still solo vet dungs and normal trial bosses.

    All others? You, me, 99.999% of the playerbase? If you couldn't complete vMoL before patch, you may even not bother trying after.

    Comprehensible?
    Edited by Dantaria on April 24, 2017 3:10PM
    English isn't my native, apologies for any mistakes.
  • MCBIZZLE300
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    This is impressive, people who are reacting negatively are just sour. Well done.
  • Ch4mpTW
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    mcb123 wrote: »
    This is impressive, people who are reacting negatively are just sour. Well done.

    No one is taking away from the fact that it is an impressive feat. It's just that people are going above and beyond by —ugh. Just not even going to respond anymore to this thread. Y'all keep believing what you all wish about people's ability, and how unique and truly special they are.
  • Detector
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    Need more UP's for sorcs. Sarcasm.
    In pvp sorc strong class №1 too (1 vs 1 / 1 vs X)
    So...
    Sorc - IMBA
    DK - good balance
    NB and Templar - :'(
    Nice balance, ZOS.

    P.S. Im 3 year playing for manaNB and stamNB. Nothing changes...
    Edited by Detector on April 24, 2017 6:21PM
  • lunalitetempler
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    Dantaria wrote: »
    So much LOL for those who say stuff like:
    Then if you can do this in next patch why are people moaning? What's the big deal?
    See why we can't continue with the power creep?
    Yeah it's funny watching these videos where people soloing raid bosses, but then they cry they will be under powered with these nerfs. WELL DUH! You shouldn't be able to solo raid bosses. At least not until you are like 40 levels or so above the boss like you can do it games like WoW
    Stuff like this shows why we need nerfs.

    The deal is that Vaoh is like... 0.000000000001% of the player base? The deal is that he is the only one who did it? The deal is that he is also in 0.0001% of the playerbase who passed vet MoL HM?

    The simple players - you, me, countless of others - didn't even do simple vet MoL. Well. I certainly didn't.

    When the patch hits - if it hits - those who did vet MoL HM will still do vet MoL HM. And will still solo vet dungs and normal trial bosses.

    All others? You, me, 99.999% of the playerbase? If you couldn't complete vMoL before patch, you may even not bother trying after.

    Comprehensible?

    Salty...
  • Violynne
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    All the video did was show me I still have a ways to go. Here I am all happy I can solo public dungeons for the first time ever, and I get one-upped with a solo of a dungeon.

    I tried taking on the world boss in Hew's Bane - the Lamia - and was quickly decimated as soon as she launched all her little pets.

    Kudos on a job well done. It was an inspiration for me to do better, especially with bar swapping, which the video clearly shows was managed well.

    Thanks for sharing!
  • Vaoh
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    Riggsy wrote: »
    OP says any class can do this but is then challenged about doing it on other characters and won't, he says he only plays sorc....
    Next OP says the Morrowind patch won't hurt his ability to do this yet he has zero proof backing up this claim other than that he *thinks* he could continue to do it.
    And as fate would have it sorcs aren't getting nerfed, as a class, in Morrowind.
    No, OP isnt responsible for the other class nerfs but videos like this, which he hopes will garner applause for his efforts, is salt in recently opened wounds in relation to the upcoming expansion and I can see why people are vexed instead of congratulatory.

    If you watch the vid, it'd become very clear why I said that.

    Soloing this boss in itself isn't particulary demanding of your gear and CP. It is demanding of your ability to roll dodge those shatter blows while under lots of pressure, whether it be from the DPS race aspect of this fight, cats, or whatever.

    Soloing this stuff is no different than vMoL HM progressions in this regard. Those who beat it pre-Morrowind will still beat it after Morrowind, even if it takes longer than before. Perhaps it will be harder, but it will only require a bit of practice to be doing again.

    The player skill gained from practicing strats over and over is what nerfs or switching classes will never change. This is why those who run vMoL HM daily can do it. They've become so knowledgable of mechanics and strats from practicing so much it's just easy to them now. My solo here is no different at all.

    But feel free to spread more hate and conspiracy theories about why I won't run it on another class to appease some lame, hating minority just because the class I've mained since launch is currently "the meta". smh
  • Vaoh
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    Dantaria wrote: »
    So much LOL for those who say stuff like:
    Then if you can do this in next patch why are people moaning? What's the big deal?
    See why we can't continue with the power creep?
    Yeah it's funny watching these videos where people soloing raid bosses, but then they cry they will be under powered with these nerfs. WELL DUH! You shouldn't be able to solo raid bosses. At least not until you are like 40 levels or so above the boss like you can do it games like WoW
    Stuff like this shows why we need nerfs.

    The deal is that Vaoh is like... 0.000000000001% of the player base? The deal is that he is the only one who did it? The deal is that he is also in 0.0001% of the playerbase who passed vet MoL HM?

    The simple players - you, me, countless of others - didn't even do simple vet MoL. Well. I certainly didn't.

    When the patch hits - if it hits - those who did vet MoL HM will still do vet MoL HM. And will still solo vet dungs and normal trial bosses.

    All others? You, me, 99.999% of the playerbase? If you couldn't complete vMoL before patch, you may even not bother trying after.

    Comprehensible?

    Haters are haters. They'll troll no matter how simple you put things for them. Ty though, I appreciate it :)

    To them, I singlehandly nerfed Sorc, though truly it could not be more far off.
  • Vaoh
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    KingJ wrote: »
    @Vaoh so who better you or @Thelon when it comes to solo content?

    Thelon is an amazing player. I think he soloed stuff for the same reason I did, which is because it was fun and he wanted to prove it was possible to kill certain bosses solo.

    However it's not a contest. Not trying to compete or start any sort of competition like that to see who's "better".
  • pizzaow
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    Congrats man, I always enjoy your videos. I especially like your write-up where you go into a great amount of detail about the mechanics and techniques; very specific spawn times, adds to prioritize, visual cues, amount of damage (and if it can be purged, etc). This has helped me tremendously learning the battles, and makes it easy for me to explain to others (I pug a lot).

    Good luck with the Warrior!

    Have you ever thought of 2-manning some full trials where mechanics prohibit you from soloing? .. too bad Thelon isn't on the same server; it would be fun to see both of you taking down some seemingly impossible to 2-man bosses, like Rakkhat?! Finding another player with an equal amount of skill, dedication and soul gems is tricky.

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  • KingJ
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    Vaoh wrote: »
    KingJ wrote: »
    @Vaoh so who better you or @Thelon when it comes to solo content?

    Thelon is an amazing player. I think he soloed stuff for the same reason I did, which is because it was fun and he wanted to prove it was possible to kill certain bosses solo.

    However it's not a contest. Not trying to compete or start any sort of competition like that to see who's "better".
    Nahh @Vaoh it can only be one lol
    Edited by KingJ on April 26, 2017 7:17PM
  • LiquidPony
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    @Vaoh this is awesome. Super impressive. Your timing and awareness on this boss is top-notch.

    Can't believe the general trend of this thread, though. People are crazy butt-hurt over the PTS patch notes, and some just don't seem to understand that it's not gear/classes/builds that allow you to beat the hardest content in the game and solo stuff meant for groups.

    It's practice, more practice, then more practice, raid awareness, and a deep understanding of the game and the fight mechanics. And, most importantly, persistence and dedication.

    I seriously doubt I have the skill or dedication to get it done, but reading through this thread makes me want to take my stamblade in there and give it a shot.

    +1, thanks for posting, this is awesome.
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    Vaoh wrote: »
    makreth wrote: »
    Could you post a stamblade video as well, as a guide, the way you did for sorc. Thanks in advance.

    I only play Mag Sorc so I won't be grinding up a Stamblade to do this :neutral: I've mained Mag Sorc since launch.

    However, these fights should be easier on Stamina as opposed to Magicka.

    If you're a Stamblade, you should be able to *easily* kill the adds by running circles around them. Sun-Eaters+Dreadstalkers should be stacked in the center of your circular path while Shadowguards and Savages chase you.

    Sun Eater negates will not be dangerous since you use Stamina abilities and Shuffle removes the heavy snare. The healing Flurry and Twin Slashes morphs will be enough to tank Zhaj'hassa with plenty of Stamina to dodge his shatters. Vigor and Dawnbreaker+Steel Tornado when cats come out. Your shades can make the boss deal less damage.

    That's about as mich as I can help without actually doing it myself. Should be quite difficult but certainly possible to beat. Every class has their own skills which help fight this boss.

    Lol no way.
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  • KCLucky
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    Riggsy wrote: »
    OP says any class can do this but is then challenged about doing it on other characters and won't, he says he only plays sorc....
    Next OP says the Morrowind patch won't hurt his ability to do this yet he has zero proof backing up this claim other than that he *thinks* he could continue to do it.
    And as fate would have it sorcs aren't getting nerfed, as a class, in Morrowind.
    No, OP isnt responsible for the other class nerfs but videos like this, which he hopes will garner applause for his efforts, is salt in recently opened wounds in relation to the upcoming expansion and I can see why people are vexed instead of congratulatory.

    Not everyone is impressed by solo stuff :P

    All I've seen you do is troll people for the last 2 weeks who are upset with the upcoming patch. Also from what I gathered you don't seem to be clearing any demanding content, so your opinion on some aspects is literally worthless. I would just ignore you but I can't figure out how to on mobile.
  • Vaoh
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    pizzaow wrote: »
    Congrats man, I always enjoy your videos. I especially like your write-up where you go into a great amount of detail about the mechanics and techniques; very specific spawn times, adds to prioritize, visual cues, amount of damage (and if it can be purged, etc). This has helped me tremendously learning the battles, and makes it easy for me to explain to others (I pug a lot).

    Good luck with the Warrior!

    Have you ever thought of 2-manning some full trials where mechanics prohibit you from soloing? .. too bad Thelon isn't on the same server; it would be fun to see both of you taking down some seemingly impossible to 2-man bosses, like Rakkhat?! Finding another player with an equal amount of skill, dedication and soul gems is tricky.
    @pizzaow
    Ty! I haven't been in Normal Hel Ra recently but will certainly find the incentive to run it again soon.

    It has been extra frustrating because Sorc pet AI is quite broken. Should be understandable how when fighting The Warrior, only 1/4 attempts last longer than a few minutes and then my pet randomly loses aggro during those good attempts. In these situations I run around helplessly doing my best to re-aggro the boss to my pet but have seldom succeeded.

    After Hel Ra (assuming I beat it) there's just nothing left for me to solo.

    As for Normal Maw.... I've considered gathering a group of 4 to take on Rakkhat, but never got around to trying it. Probably won't happen with my lack of ESO time lately :neutral:
  • lunalitetempler
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    KCLucky wrote: »
    Riggsy wrote: »
    OP says any class can do this but is then challenged about doing it on other characters and won't, he says he only plays sorc....
    Next OP says the Morrowind patch won't hurt his ability to do this yet he has zero proof backing up this claim other than that he *thinks* he could continue to do it.
    And as fate would have it sorcs aren't getting nerfed, as a class, in Morrowind.
    No, OP isnt responsible for the other class nerfs but videos like this, which he hopes will garner applause for his efforts, is salt in recently opened wounds in relation to the upcoming expansion and I can see why people are vexed instead of congratulatory.

    Not everyone is impressed by solo stuff :P

    All I've seen you do is troll people for the last 2 weeks who are upset with the upcoming patch. Also from what I gathered you don't seem to be clearing any demanding content, so your opinion on some aspects is literally worthless. I would just ignore you but I can't figure out how to on mobile.
    KCLucky wrote: »
    Riggsy wrote: »
    OP says any class can do this but is then challenged about doing it on other characters and won't, he says he only plays sorc....
    Next OP says the Morrowind patch won't hurt his ability to do this yet he has zero proof backing up this claim other than that he *thinks* he could continue to do it.
    And as fate would have it sorcs aren't getting nerfed, as a class, in Morrowind.
    No, OP isnt responsible for the other class nerfs but videos like this, which he hopes will garner applause for his efforts, is salt in recently opened wounds in relation to the upcoming expansion and I can see why people are vexed instead of congratulatory.

    Not everyone is impressed by solo stuff :P

    All I've seen you do is troll people for the last 2 weeks who are upset with the upcoming patch. Also from what I gathered you don't seem to be clearing any demanding content, so your opinion on some aspects is literally worthless. I would just ignore you but I can't figure out how to on mobile.

    Calling someone a troll because they don't agree is quite sad. Its called an opinion, don't get so upset about it.
  • Elvenpath
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    This video shows us, sorcs are need to nerf, not the nerf other 3 classes, therefore they nerfed 3 classes sorcs are still same. roflmao.
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