Why are you quitting, cancelling sub/morrowind, on the fence?

Vapirko
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So much rage, annoyance, frustration. Why? What is your reason for leaving the game, cancelling orders or Morrowind or subs, or simply being on the fence. For me personally, I cancelled my subscription. I have a few months left which will take me through the next patch. I won't be ordering Morrowind yet, and I will only renew if the game comes out well on the other side. But my frustration has only to do with PvP and the heavy, heavy nerfs to the DK class, especially stam DK. I personally think they will be unplayable in Azuras Star, lacking burst already and now getting handicapped on tankiness. I see solo play being very difficult or impossible. For me this has nothing to do with PvE or the CP changes which I really like the look of. But I PvP a lot these days and I have a job and I just want to continue playing my toon that I spent a ton of time leveling and gearing. So what's the reason for you? My purpose with this poll is to get people to concisely think about why they personally are having issues with the changes and not just general, everyone jump on the bandwagon, rage. Because, it is highly unlikely that these changes, even in their current form, ruin the entire game. It's just not happening.
Edited by Vapirko on April 24, 2017 3:27AM

Why are you quitting, cancelling sub/morrowind, on the fence? 117 votes

CP Changes
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Personofsecrets 1 vote
Class Passives/Skill Nerfs
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Affects of Changes on PvE
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Affects of Changes on PvP
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CavalryPKGilbert_Gaucirwb17_ESODurhamD0ntevenL1ftKay1 5 votes
General Frustration with Grind/Long Existing Bugs etc
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wolfdoggie_ESOMicallefAeladiircopitoWarysteakDiozaelsSpiderKnightJim_PippHoolDogGabrielzavadskiElectrone_Magnus 11 votes
All of the Above
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Other: Please Explain
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  • lookstwice
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    Stealth speed stacking changes.
  • Graydon
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    Where is the "I'm not quitting option?"
  • notimetocare
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    Graydon wrote: »
    Where is the "I'm not quitting option?"

    Doesnt exist. This is a complainer poll
  • WalksonGraves
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    lookstwice wrote: »
    Stealth speed stacking changes.

    Seriously? An on and off bug that has existed since launch?

    It's not even useful for anything but spying in pvp.

    I'm excited to see the garbage meta that's been entrenched upended.
    Edited by WalksonGraves on April 24, 2017 3:34AM
  • Noisivid
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    not enough forum drama ;)
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  • Vapirko
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    Graydon wrote: »
    Where is the "I'm not quitting option?"

    Doesnt exist. This is a complainer poll

    Lol. Not at all a complainer poll. Im genuinely interested to know why people are frustrated overall because I think a lot of people are simply angry because everyone seems to be angry. Like I said, for me I only have an issue because of how its going to affect my corner of the PvP universe. Everything else Im fine with. Im trying to get people to sift through their sand pile of anger and figure out if theres really even that much reason to be. Also why would their be an option to say "not quitting" in a poll asking why people are quitting? Im not quitting, is not a why to this question.
  • firedrgn
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    I will stick around I think it's way to premature to get undergarments bunched up.

    Can you all send me your stuff .. firedrgn. Thanks
  • AlienatedGoat
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    Stop making these quit threads.

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  • O_LYKOS
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    If I was to quit it would be because they're potentially implementing changes that will break the game and the majority of their player base is against it. Therefore it's in their best interest to rethink these changes and decide against them. As of now tho I am not quitting.
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  • ashenb14_ESO
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    All of the Above
    not quitting but, am unsubbing if this patch drops to live...tried it on pts...wow, makes grinding so much slower.....always running our of mag/stam... some great changes....lets make cleaning up trash mobs take 5-10x as long... and boss mobs...even minibosses...well this is being turned into "heavy attack online"...so just use heavy attacks 90% of the time....since thats how you regen!!!! really!!!
  • idk
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    Graydon wrote: »
    Where is the "I'm not quitting option?"

    Doesnt exist. This is a complainer poll

    Exactly. Why this poll if not really just a quitting thread hidden in a poll.
  • rockyracoon13
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    All of the Above
    I'm unsubbing both mine and my girlfriend's eso plus. We also cancelled our Morrowind preorders mainly due to the dumb changes/nerfs and we've finally had enough of the lag, bugs, etc.
  • Nemesis7884
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    honestly, the less time i read the forums and focus on numbers and optimal and just play the game and do what i want to do to have fun and play the thematic rpgs builds i want that are faaaaaaaaaaaaaar from optimal the more fun im having even if im slower, weaker :smiley:
  • Majeure
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    I'm not.
  • notimetocare
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    Vapirko wrote: »
    Graydon wrote: »
    Where is the "I'm not quitting option?"

    Doesnt exist. This is a complainer poll

    Lol. Not at all a complainer poll. Im genuinely interested to know why people are frustrated overall because I think a lot of people are simply angry because everyone seems to be angry. Like I said, for me I only have an issue because of how its going to affect my corner of the PvP universe. Everything else Im fine with. Im trying to get people to sift through their sand pile of anger and figure out if theres really even that much reason to be. Also why would their be an option to say "not quitting" in a poll asking why people are quitting? Im not quitting, is not a why to this question.

    For balance. And also because it would be 70% of the votes lol
  • Shadow_Viper_vX
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    This thread again...

    Who cares?
  • DaveMoeDee
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    Going forward, I will likely cluster my player. Maybe I'll wait for a Morrowind sale down the road. I got a 1 month sub during the anniversary event to manage all the mats and once that runs out, I need to concentrate on some IRL matters and maybe find time to finish off some other games.

    I'm definitely not done with the game. I still love it and want to play all the content to come. There just is far from enough content for me to play this 12 months straight with repeating things over and over.
  • Vapirko
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    Phage wrote: »
    Stop making these quit threads.

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    Actually, quitting is only one of the things. Many of us, like myself, will continue to play but have cancelled orders/subs until we see where this is going. I think most people arent quitting. My goal, which is obviously failing (cause reasons), was to see where the genuine majority of unhappiness lay. What Im gathering so far however is that there are two basic parties. 1) The people who dont care what changes are made and 2) the people who think the whole game is ruined. I had hoped there would be some nuances to that. But then it makes sense as to why these forums are generally unconstructive when it comes to vocalizing what we want.
  • colig
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    All of the Above
    Vapirko wrote: »
    Phage wrote: »
    Stop making these quit threads.

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    Actually, quitting is only one of the things. Many of us, like myself, will continue to play but have cancelled orders/subs until we see where this is going. I think most people arent quitting. My goal, which is obviously failing (cause reasons), was to see where the genuine majority of unhappiness lay. What Im gathering so far however is that there are two basic parties. 1) The people who dont care what changes are made and 2) the people who think the whole game is ruined. I had hoped there would be some nuances to that. But then it makes sense as to why these forums are generally unconstructive when it comes to vocalizing what we want.

    There's a few posts here and there explicitly laying out the problems before us. Yes, there's plenty of complaints, because it's the forums.
  • Villious
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    Affects of Changes on PvE
    Already cancelled my sub. Not getting Morrowwind if the current changes go live.
  • DragonBound
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    not quitting but, am unsubbing if this patch drops to live...tried it on pts...wow, makes grinding so much slower.....always running our of mag/stam... some great changes....lets make cleaning up trash mobs take 5-10x as long... and boss mobs...even minibosses...well this is being turned into "heavy attack online"...so just use heavy attacks 90% of the time....since thats how you regen!!!! really!!!

    I try to do this but you notice things once you try your skills and group up with people using the same class as you.
  • kyle.wilson
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    Mail me your stuff when you quit.
  • NecroEnzo
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    All of the Above
    Vapirko wrote: »
    Graydon wrote: »
    Where is the "I'm not quitting option?"

    Doesnt exist. This is a complainer poll

    Lol. Not at all a complainer poll. Im genuinely interested to know why people are frustrated overall because I think a lot of people are simply angry because everyone seems to be angry. Like I said, for me I only have an issue because of how its going to affect my corner of the PvP universe. Everything else Im fine with. Im trying to get people to sift through their sand pile of anger and figure out if theres really even that much reason to be. Also why would their be an option to say "not quitting" in a poll asking why people are quitting? Im not quitting, is not a why to this question.

    For balance. And also because it would be 70% of the votes lol

    There's an other option where you can protest the protesters, clever person you.

    Sadly, looks like your prediction is off, "All of the above" is smoking every other option. All the OP did was take a look at the reasons people are upset on the forum, and do what the developers should do: Take a poll, and identify the core issues the consumers are having with their game.

    If you're not upset with the changes/status quo, why are you upset with the people who are upset? Don't you have some amazing, and enriching, gameplay to get back to? Did you come to share stories of your adventures in the game that followed Skyrim, and fell so short of everyone's expectations?

    Because if you came to troll, there's so much heat on the forums right now, even trolls are getting wrecked.
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    Mail me your stuff when you quit.

    Did you forget? My full Divines BSW/Ilambris gear is BOP, and the only stuff you'll want in the next expansion.
    Edited by NecroEnzo on April 24, 2017 5:34AM
  • Jollygoodusername
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    Mail me your stuff when you quit.
    Nah. But please mail me your unbound 'stuff' so I can hoard it while inactive for months at a time. Just think of it as a low yield investment, I promise it will all be safe.

    Same goes for anyone else still playing the game, you can all mail me your unbound things, it's not like you can't get more stuff right? Send gold too because you guys clearly have way too much <3

  • Knootewoot
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    None of the above. I am pretty excited tbh. A change was needed and after Morrowind more patches and updates will come. Sadly it's a tad slow, but I think around 2051 it will finally reach it's final fom.
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  • NecroEnzo
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    All of the Above
    Mail me your stuff when you quit.
    Nah. But please mail me your unbound 'stuff' so I can hoard it while inactive for months at a time. Just think of it as a low yield investment, I promise it will all be safe.

    Same goes for anyone else still playing the game, you can all mail me your unbound things, it's not like you can't get more stuff right? Send gold too because you guys clearly have way too much <3

    I spent it all on houses, and crap for houses... and then I found out that the banker's still the only thing I can do to make my houses more convenient... and he still doesn't grant access to the guild stores.

    Nuzhimeh ate all my other junk.

    /sigh
    Edited by NecroEnzo on April 24, 2017 6:38AM
  • notimetocare
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    NecroEnzo wrote: »
    Vapirko wrote: »
    Graydon wrote: »
    Where is the "I'm not quitting option?"

    Doesnt exist. This is a complainer poll

    Lol. Not at all a complainer poll. Im genuinely interested to know why people are frustrated overall because I think a lot of people are simply angry because everyone seems to be angry. Like I said, for me I only have an issue because of how its going to affect my corner of the PvP universe. Everything else Im fine with. Im trying to get people to sift through their sand pile of anger and figure out if theres really even that much reason to be. Also why would their be an option to say "not quitting" in a poll asking why people are quitting? Im not quitting, is not a why to this question.

    For balance. And also because it would be 70% of the votes lol

    There's an other option where you can protest the protesters, clever person you.

    Sadly, looks like your prediction is off, "All of the above" is smoking every other option. All the OP did was take a look at the reasons people are upset on the forum, and do what the developers should do: Take a poll, and identify the core issues the consumers are having with their game.

    If you're not upset with the changes/status quo, why are you upset with the people who are upset? Don't you have some amazing, and enriching, gameplay to get back to? Did you come to share stories of your adventures in the game that followed Skyrim, and fell so short of everyone's expectations?

    Because if you came to troll, there's so much heat on the forums right now, even trolls are getting wrecked.
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    Mail me your stuff when you quit.

    Did you forget? My full Divines BSW/Ilambris gear is BOP, and the only stuff you'll want in the next expansion.

    Because there was no true 'no' option. Look at all the other quitting polls. The quitters lose to stayers about 3:1
  • ScooberSteve
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    Class Passives/Skill Nerfs
    Nerfed my class to the ground. A whole expansion with nothing but nerfs doesnt seem fun to me
  • Brockahly
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    All of the Above
    Because I spend most of my time at work, I'm more of a casual gamer, so I like to get things easier, I like easier gameplay where I don't have to put hours upon hours of effort in to be good. With the sustain nerfs, and the nerf to one of my favourite classes(Templar) I just don't have to time to find ways around the nerfs, my easier style game play being taken away, and the fact all my previous hard work grinding up multiple characters for multiple dungeon/trial roles will now become obsolete because of the nerfs and again I just don't have to time. Overall after reading those patch notes I've actually stopped playing every day, it's killed my will to play because everything I've worked for so far is just going to obsolete.
  • Cpt_Teemo
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    This is why pvp / pve changes should be in 2 different updates imo
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