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NDA partial lift - Templer healer in battlegrounds performance.
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lunalitetempler✭✭✭✭austinwalter87ub17_ESO wrote: »Yeah. I'm calling BS on this. The OP has been an ardent supporter of the nerfs and is trying to do damage control on their own behalf because they're personally content with the changes or is a huge asskisser.
I do support the changes to cp yes, I choose to play no cp campaign like a lot of people because I think its more fun and balanced. I'm used to waring the same sets, and the same set up. The only difference was I can't bol people behind me but that's not even an issue. Everything else is the same, you can choose to think what you like it doesn't matter to me one bit ^^ I'm simply giving my view on how it effects my healer templer in PvP content for other people wondering a similar situation.
Expac is awesome!1 -
lunalitetempler✭✭✭✭It just amazing that someone steps forward to share some positive feedback and all the 'doom and gloomers' who have yet to even try Templar healing with the changes jump on them... and people wonder why ZOS doesn't listen to player feedback... because a very large majority of it are from players who are basing their views on ASSUMPTIONS and HEARSAY.
I don't think some of them can read, they seem to think I'm DPS and that CP's are active in BGS ^^Edited by lunalitetempler on April 20, 2017 10:43PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭That's a very limited way of testing one sort of build for one class IMO. Definitely isn't going to ease minds.-- @xaraan --
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✭Soo looks like we are all gonna have to run 2 full 5 piece sets dedicated to sustain. Thank u for the post. Really telling about the templar scorched earth nerf. Well its official im dropping my subscription. Great post.6 -
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✭✭PvP is not the main problem here, its the freakin PvE that has been screwed. Lower sustain might be better for pvp and BOL being infront of you wont make that huge difference there also shards and repentance were not that important in pvp, in PVE all these and just a nightmare for the templar4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭lunalitetempler wrote: »
Yeah, battlegrounds kind of gave that away. (Which isn't the same as standard PvP I'd add) but it doesn't really change my point.-- @xaraan --
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✭Edited by Shader_Shibes on April 20, 2017 10:52PM1 -
lunalitetempler✭✭✭✭lunalitetempler wrote: »
Yeah, battlegrounds kind of gave that away. (Which isn't the same as standard PvP I'd add) but it doesn't really change my point.
It will be the same for cyrodill to as I play the no cp out of choice. Ask someone else about pve I'm posting about PvP.0 -
lunalitetempler✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »You do know there is a PvP forum right?
Gina encouraged people to share their thoughts on how they find class and play styles to be effected. Since general is the one most historical I figured this was the right place.0 -
austinwalter87ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Ylunalitetempler wrote: »austinwalter87ub17_ESO wrote: »Yeah. I'm calling BS on this. The OP has been an ardent supporter of the nerfs and is trying to do damage control on their own behalf because they're personally content with the changes or is a huge asskisser.
I do support the changes to cp yes, I choose to play no cp campaign like a lot of people because I think its more fun and balanced. I'm used to waring the same sets, and the same set up. The only difference was I can't bol people behind me but that's not even an issue. Everything else is the same, you can choose to think what you like it doesn't matter to me one bit ^^ I'm simply giving my view on how it effects my healer templer in PvP content for other people wondering a similar situation.
Expac is awesome!
The BOL changes aren't a big deal. Probably the most tolerable of the nerfs. But you're a bold face liar if you claim it's still good and nearly the same. You claim to be running around in heavy with no struggle.
PTS testing alone determines that is a lie.PC and PS4 (bring back character transfers please?)
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✭It just amazing that someone steps forward to share some positive feedback and all the 'doom and gloomers' who have yet to even try Templar healing with the changes jump on them... and people wonder why ZOS doesn't listen to player feedback... because a very large majority of it are from players who are basing their views on ASSUMPTIONS and HEARSAY.
How is anyone basing it on assumptions or hearsay when they are going off facts from the developers?
Zos CAN'T listen to everyone because there are so many different thoughts and opinions.
What's the saying, can't please everyone. But they should be attempting to please the majority which ever side that is.1 -
lunalitetempler✭✭✭✭austinwalter87ub17_ESO wrote: »Ylunalitetempler wrote: »austinwalter87ub17_ESO wrote: »Yeah. I'm calling BS on this. The OP has been an ardent supporter of the nerfs and is trying to do damage control on their own behalf because they're personally content with the changes or is a huge asskisser.
I do support the changes to cp yes, I choose to play no cp campaign like a lot of people because I think its more fun and balanced. I'm used to waring the same sets, and the same set up. The only difference was I can't bol people behind me but that's not even an issue. Everything else is the same, you can choose to think what you like it doesn't matter to me one bit ^^ I'm simply giving my view on how it effects my healer templer in PvP content for other people wondering a similar situation.
Expac is awesome!
The BOL changes aren't a big deal. Probably the most tolerable of the nerfs. But you're a bold face liar if you claim it's still good and nearly the same. You claim to be running around in heavy with no struggle.
PTS testing alone determines that is a lie.
Well I don't know what to tell you, im running my same set up just fine thanks. If you can't manage that's not my problem its yours.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭rotaugen454 wrote: »I also wonder if the doom and gloom on the regular forums is so bad they want those in the beta to assure people that the sky is NOT falling?
The current hysteria is being fed by the lack of solid information. Coming into the forum, you would think that upon logging into the game, every class but the Warden falls over and refuses to move. This allows the people who actually have real information, good or bad, to come out and say what they are actually seeing on PTS.Edited by Elsonso on April 20, 2017 11:22PMXBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
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lunalitetempler✭✭✭✭lordrichter wrote: »rotaugen454 wrote: »I also wonder if the doom and gloom on the regular forums is so bad they want those in the beta to assure people that the sky is NOT falling?
The current hysteria is being fed by the lack of honest information. Coming into the forum, you would think that upon logging into the game, every class but the Warden falls over and refuses to move. This allows the people who actually have real information, good or bad, to come out and say what they are actually seeing on PTS.
It doesn't matter, people seem to be so involved with the drama they don't want to listen or think for them self's. They can be sad if they want to, doesn't really matter. People who want to enjoy it will and those that don't will have to adapt or move on.0 -
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✭✭✭✭lunalitetempler wrote: »austinwalter87ub17_ESO wrote: »Ylunalitetempler wrote: »austinwalter87ub17_ESO wrote: »Yeah. I'm calling BS on this. The OP has been an ardent supporter of the nerfs and is trying to do damage control on their own behalf because they're personally content with the changes or is a huge asskisser.
I do support the changes to cp yes, I choose to play no cp campaign like a lot of people because I think its more fun and balanced. I'm used to waring the same sets, and the same set up. The only difference was I can't bol people behind me but that's not even an issue. Everything else is the same, you can choose to think what you like it doesn't matter to me one bit ^^ I'm simply giving my view on how it effects my healer templer in PvP content for other people wondering a similar situation.
Expac is awesome!
The BOL changes aren't a big deal. Probably the most tolerable of the nerfs. But you're a bold face liar if you claim it's still good and nearly the same. You claim to be running around in heavy with no struggle.
PTS testing alone determines that is a lie.
Well I don't know what to tell you, im running my same set up just fine thanks. If you can't manage that's not my problem its yours.
So it feels the same, and you are running the same set up. So the nerfs were pointless then? Interesting.1 -
lunalitetempler✭✭✭✭vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »lunalitetempler wrote: »austinwalter87ub17_ESO wrote: »Ylunalitetempler wrote: »austinwalter87ub17_ESO wrote: »Yeah. I'm calling BS on this. The OP has been an ardent supporter of the nerfs and is trying to do damage control on their own behalf because they're personally content with the changes or is a huge asskisser.
I do support the changes to cp yes, I choose to play no cp campaign like a lot of people because I think its more fun and balanced. I'm used to waring the same sets, and the same set up. The only difference was I can't bol people behind me but that's not even an issue. Everything else is the same, you can choose to think what you like it doesn't matter to me one bit ^^ I'm simply giving my view on how it effects my healer templer in PvP content for other people wondering a similar situation.
Expac is awesome!
The BOL changes aren't a big deal. Probably the most tolerable of the nerfs. But you're a bold face liar if you claim it's still good and nearly the same. You claim to be running around in heavy with no struggle.
PTS testing alone determines that is a lie.
Well I don't know what to tell you, im running my same set up just fine thanks. If you can't manage that's not my problem its yours.
So it feels the same, and you are running the same set up. So the nerfs were pointless then? Interesting.
I'm not sure whats not clear? The battlegrounds are none cp, cp nerfs do not effect battlegrounds. The armor is minor, I never ran light anyway and the heavy armor passive doesnt make a difference since I stay back. Since I stay back everyone is in my cone. So yes no difference to how it affects my set up or play style.0 -
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Thought main part about engine guardian was the group buff.So you mean to tell me that while you are wearing 2 sets dedicated to sustain you didnt notice a sustain issue? Lol
An dedicated healer set should have good regen as an healer should have an emergency reserved for things going pear sharped.Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
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✭✭✭✭lunalitetempler wrote: »vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »lunalitetempler wrote: »austinwalter87ub17_ESO wrote: »Ylunalitetempler wrote: »austinwalter87ub17_ESO wrote: »Yeah. I'm calling BS on this. The OP has been an ardent supporter of the nerfs and is trying to do damage control on their own behalf because they're personally content with the changes or is a huge asskisser.
I do support the changes to cp yes, I choose to play no cp campaign like a lot of people because I think its more fun and balanced. I'm used to waring the same sets, and the same set up. The only difference was I can't bol people behind me but that's not even an issue. Everything else is the same, you can choose to think what you like it doesn't matter to me one bit ^^ I'm simply giving my view on how it effects my healer templer in PvP content for other people wondering a similar situation.
Expac is awesome!
The BOL changes aren't a big deal. Probably the most tolerable of the nerfs. But you're a bold face liar if you claim it's still good and nearly the same. You claim to be running around in heavy with no struggle.
PTS testing alone determines that is a lie.
Well I don't know what to tell you, im running my same set up just fine thanks. If you can't manage that's not my problem its yours.
So it feels the same, and you are running the same set up. So the nerfs were pointless then? Interesting.
I'm not sure whats not clear? The battlegrounds are none cp, cp nerfs do not effect battlegrounds. The armor is minor, I never ran light anyway and the heavy armor passive doesnt make a difference since I stay back. Since I stay back everyone is in my cone. So yes no difference to how it affects my set up or play style.
Ok, just making sure. I thought it sounded like you said, most of the stuff in patch won't affect me or how I play, but I went ahead and posted about how it didn't affect me, or how I play anyway. Just wanted to be clear about what I was reading.0 -
lunalitetempler✭✭✭✭vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »lunalitetempler wrote: »vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »lunalitetempler wrote: »austinwalter87ub17_ESO wrote: »Ylunalitetempler wrote: »austinwalter87ub17_ESO wrote: »Yeah. I'm calling BS on this. The OP has been an ardent supporter of the nerfs and is trying to do damage control on their own behalf because they're personally content with the changes or is a huge asskisser.
I do support the changes to cp yes, I choose to play no cp campaign like a lot of people because I think its more fun and balanced. I'm used to waring the same sets, and the same set up. The only difference was I can't bol people behind me but that's not even an issue. Everything else is the same, you can choose to think what you like it doesn't matter to me one bit ^^ I'm simply giving my view on how it effects my healer templer in PvP content for other people wondering a similar situation.
Expac is awesome!
The BOL changes aren't a big deal. Probably the most tolerable of the nerfs. But you're a bold face liar if you claim it's still good and nearly the same. You claim to be running around in heavy with no struggle.
PTS testing alone determines that is a lie.
Well I don't know what to tell you, im running my same set up just fine thanks. If you can't manage that's not my problem its yours.
So it feels the same, and you are running the same set up. So the nerfs were pointless then? Interesting.
I'm not sure whats not clear? The battlegrounds are none cp, cp nerfs do not effect battlegrounds. The armor is minor, I never ran light anyway and the heavy armor passive doesnt make a difference since I stay back. Since I stay back everyone is in my cone. So yes no difference to how it affects my set up or play style.
Ok, just making sure. I thought it sounded like you said, most of the stuff in patch won't affect me or how I play, but I went ahead and posted about how it didn't affect me, or how I play anyway. Just wanted to be clear about what I was reading.
Nope doesn't effect my personal gear, build or play style one bit.0 -
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✭So you mean to tell me that while you are wearing 2 sets dedicated to sustain you didnt notice a sustain issue? Lol
That's what every magicka character is going to wear if they want to stay in heavy, not just Templar.Edited by hmsdragonfly on April 21, 2017 3:08AMAldmeri Dominion Loyalist. For the Queen!0 -
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✭I don't play a Templer, but thank you for keeping us informed.
If someone is testing a stamblade, I would love to read about it.PS4 Pro NA0 -
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✭austinwalter87ub17_ESO wrote: »Yeah. I'm calling BS on this. The OP has been an ardent supporter of the nerfs and is trying to do damage control on their own behalf because they're personally content with the changes or is a huge asskisser.
Translation: "Whaaaaaaaaaa! *cry while laying face down on the floor kicking my feet* Whaaaaaa! No I said the game is doomed so it has to be! I know my reading of the patch notes is way more valuable than you actually testing them out! Whaaaaaaaaaa! *wipes snot on sleeve*"2 -
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✭✭✭✭austinwalter87ub17_ESO wrote: »Yeah. I'm calling BS on this. The OP has been an ardent supporter of the nerfs and is trying to do damage control on their own behalf because they're personally content with the changes or is a huge asskisser.
Translation: "Whaaaaaaaaaa! *cry while laying face down on the floor kicking my feet* Whaaaaaa! No I said the game is doomed so it has to be! I know my reading of the patch notes is way more valuable than you actually testing them out! Whaaaaaaaaaa! *wipes snot on sleeve*"
Well to be fair, the op did say nothing in the patch really touched his setup or play style. So he wasn't exactly testing much of the changes to Templars either.Edited by vyndral13preub18_ESO on April 21, 2017 3:25AM2 -
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✭vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »austinwalter87ub17_ESO wrote: »Yeah. I'm calling BS on this. The OP has been an ardent supporter of the nerfs and is trying to do damage control on their own behalf because they're personally content with the changes or is a huge asskisser.
Translation: "Whaaaaaaaaaa! *cry while laying face down on the floor kicking my feet* Whaaaaaa! No I said the game is doomed so it has to be! I know my reading of the patch notes is way more valuable than you actually testing them out! Whaaaaaaaaaa! *wipes snot on sleeve*"
Well to be fair, the op did say nothing in the patch really touched his setup or play style. So he wasn't exactly testing much of the changes to Templars either.
He's not the only one saying everything is fine...0 -
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✭✭✭✭vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »austinwalter87ub17_ESO wrote: »Yeah. I'm calling BS on this. The OP has been an ardent supporter of the nerfs and is trying to do damage control on their own behalf because they're personally content with the changes or is a huge asskisser.
Translation: "Whaaaaaaaaaa! *cry while laying face down on the floor kicking my feet* Whaaaaaa! No I said the game is doomed so it has to be! I know my reading of the patch notes is way more valuable than you actually testing them out! Whaaaaaaaaaa! *wipes snot on sleeve*"
Well to be fair, the op did say nothing in the patch really touched his setup or play style. So he wasn't exactly testing much of the changes to Templars either.
He's not the only one saying everything is fine...
And the other person you quoted isnt the only one saying it is not....
You ever feel like you are going in circles?1
