Returning player and patch notes...

Tiitus · April 2017

Played eso on and off since its release due to a number of reason not related to the game... have 2 50s and only at 70cp, everytime ive return the game has change dratically so im basically relearning eso, this time is no different... i decided to go DK tank love tanking but i was having issues with my stamina and blocking (stamina uses, roll,block and abilities) basically i dont have enough resources to do it effectively, so i came here to ask for help hopeful this eases with higher lvls... but instead i came into an uproar about the very thing that has been troubling me.

ive read the patch notes most of which i dont understand so i can only comment on the one that will most likely effect me, that said with the changes to resource gain, and the dk changes i am extremely unmotivated.. this is telling me that all the probs i am experiencing now will get worse.. how am i suppose to tank in eso? grab the strongest mob and let the group deal with the rest? am i suppose the just be a meat bag relying on the healer to keep me up through an onsluaght of un mitigated damage until the elite mob does a heavy attack then block? are they tonning down pve to compensate for the changes?

(touching on CP for a sec but i am by no means an expert on it ) this seems like a change to combat CP resource gains which will directly hurt new players and lower CP players and create an elitism situation, that gap seems to have gotten wider.. i saw the DR added to CP this will not make players opt for spending points elsewhere they will funnel it into what will get them closer to what they have pre patch.. which will make being "max CP or gtfo" even more relevant.

just my 2cents.

Tasear · April 2017

http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/alanarres-invincible-dk-shieldtank/

Try a different playstyle

Enslaved · April 2017

Tiitus wrote: »

Played eso on and off since its release due to a number of reason not related to the game... have 2 50s and only at 70cp, everytime ive return the game has change dratically so im basically relearning eso, this time is no different... i decided to go DK tank love tanking but i was having issues with my stamina and blocking (stamina uses, roll,block and abilities) basically i dont have enough resources to do it effectively, so i came here to ask for help hopeful this eases with higher lvls... but instead i came into an uproar about the very thing that has been troubling me.

ive read the patch notes most of which i dont understand so i can only comment on the one that will most likely effect me, that said with the changes to resource gain, and the dk changes i am extremely unmotivated.. this is telling me that all the probs i am experiencing now will get worse.. how am i suppose to tank in eso? grab the strongest mob and let the group deal with the rest? am i suppose the just be a meat bag relying on the healer to keep me up through an onsluaght of un mitigated damage until the elite mob does a heavy attack then block?

(touching on CP for a sec but i am by no means an expert on it ) this seems like a change to combat CP resource gains which will directly hurt new players and lower CP players and create an elitism situation, that gap seems to have gotten wider.. i saw the DR added to CP this will not make top players opt for spending points elsewhere they will funnel it in what will get them closer to what they have pre patch.. which will make being "max CP or gtfo" even more relevant.

just my 2cents.

You should not tank in ESO? Who told you to tank? You should r o l e p l a y and s p e n d r e a l c a s h o n i n g a m e h o u s e s like a l l n o r m a l p l a y e r s. And about patch changes? H a p p y t o u g h t s

Nyghthowler · April 2017

Enslaved wrote: »

Tiitus wrote: »

Played eso on and off since its release due to a number of reason not related to the game... have 2 50s and only at 70cp, everytime ive return the game has change dratically so im basically relearning eso, this time is no different... i decided to go DK tank love tanking but i was having issues with my stamina and blocking (stamina uses, roll,block and abilities) basically i dont have enough resources to do it effectively, so i came here to ask for help hopeful this eases with higher lvls... but instead i came into an uproar about the very thing that has been troubling me.

ive read the patch notes most of which i dont understand so i can only comment on the one that will most likely effect me, that said with the changes to resource gain, and the dk changes i am extremely unmotivated.. this is telling me that all the probs i am experiencing now will get worse.. how am i suppose to tank in eso? grab the strongest mob and let the group deal with the rest? am i suppose the just be a meat bag relying on the healer to keep me up through an onsluaght of un mitigated damage until the elite mob does a heavy attack then block?

(touching on CP for a sec but i am by no means an expert on it ) this seems like a change to combat CP resource gains which will directly hurt new players and lower CP players and create an elitism situation, that gap seems to have gotten wider.. i saw the DR added to CP this will not make top players opt for spending points elsewhere they will funnel it in what will get them closer to what they have pre patch.. which will make being "max CP or gtfo" even more relevant.

just my 2cents.

You should not tank in ESO? Who told you to tank? You should r o l e p l a y and s p e n d r e a l c a s h o n i n g a m e h o u s e s like a l l n o r m a l p l a y e r s. And about patch changes? H a p p y t o u g h t s

I know their is a message in here somewhere, but my secret decoder ring is broken so f'it...

Hutch679 · April 2017

Don't buy Morrowind

Tiitus · April 2017

Tasear wrote: »

http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/alanarres-invincible-dk-shieldtank/

Try a different playstyle

thanks for the link seems interesting but i am neither max cp or max lvl and do not have access to what looks like exotic armor sets, that said this build looks fun and viable but what happens to it in 2 months with the changes in place?... seems like an awful lot of time invested for an unknown outcome.

Tiitus · April 2017

Hutch679 wrote: »

Don't buy Morrowind

if im not mistaken these changes will happen regardless if i buy it or not.

Waffennacht · April 2017

Nyghthowler wrote: »

Enslaved wrote: »

Tiitus wrote: »

Played eso on and off since its release due to a number of reason not related to the game... have 2 50s and only at 70cp, everytime ive return the game has change dratically so im basically relearning eso, this time is no different... i decided to go DK tank love tanking but i was having issues with my stamina and blocking (stamina uses, roll,block and abilities) basically i dont have enough resources to do it effectively, so i came here to ask for help hopeful this eases with higher lvls... but instead i came into an uproar about the very thing that has been troubling me.

ive read the patch notes most of which i dont understand so i can only comment on the one that will most likely effect me, that said with the changes to resource gain, and the dk changes i am extremely unmotivated.. this is telling me that all the probs i am experiencing now will get worse.. how am i suppose to tank in eso? grab the strongest mob and let the group deal with the rest? am i suppose the just be a meat bag relying on the healer to keep me up through an onsluaght of un mitigated damage until the elite mob does a heavy attack then block?

(touching on CP for a sec but i am by no means an expert on it ) this seems like a change to combat CP resource gains which will directly hurt new players and lower CP players and create an elitism situation, that gap seems to have gotten wider.. i saw the DR added to CP this will not make top players opt for spending points elsewhere they will funnel it in what will get them closer to what they have pre patch.. which will make being "max CP or gtfo" even more relevant.

just my 2cents.

You should not tank in ESO? Who told you to tank? You should r o l e p l a y and s p e n d r e a l c a s h o n i n g a m e h o u s e s like a l l n o r m a l p l a y e r s. And about patch changes? H a p p y t o u g h t s

I know their is a message in here somewhere, but my secret decoder ring is broken so f'it...

You should roleplay and spend real cash on in-game houses like all normal players

And Happy thoughts

That's what it says

lunalitetempler · April 2017

It won't hurt new players...how do you even come to that conclusion lol you get more shizzle for fewer cp. Its a buff to newbies.

WalksonGraves · April 2017

Tasear wrote: »

http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/alanarres-invincible-dk-shieldtank/

Try a different playstyle

You might as well make a shieldplar with that build.

Magdalina · April 2017

Sounds like you're in a need of a slightly more solid build if you're struggling with resources on DK tank

If you're tanking, are you using Sturdy trait on armor? Block cost reduction enchants on jewelry? Food buffing your max stamina(along with other stuff) so there's a bigger pool to draw from? Do you have s&b passives unlocked? What sets are you using?

Keep in mind stam regen stops while blocking, however if you aren't tanking a vet trial there isn't much reason to be blocking permanently - watch out for the monster cues, they have clear tells before their heavy attacks usually(some of which are interruptable, too), which is when you'll want to block. Also keep in mind rolldodge costs (a lot) more if you rolldodge several times in a row, I think "rolldodge fatigue" lasts 4 seconds, so while it might seem intuitive to just keep rolling to avoid the damage, it is usually a bad idea because it will kill your stamina.

I really don't think you should give in to all the doom and gloom on the forums right now, you're just in the very beginning of the journey, some of these nerfs you won't feel at all because of that, others are mainly relevant for PvP/vet trials

Far as tanking in general goes - DKs make great tanks because of their stam management and the crowd control they can provide. I don't think this is going to change with Morrowind. There's no aoe taunt in eso and honestly no one taunts all the 20 mobs in a trash pack in a dungeon, you want to pick out the hard hitting guys(you learn who that is with time but they're usually the biggest mean-est looking guys with either 2h or s&b(or some abhorrent creepy looking monster), hard to miss

) and make sure you taunt them, then you want to pull ranged ads in with chains and talon everyone so they're stacked nice and tight for your dps's aoe. Between heavy armor, some cp mitigation and other buffs, things don't usually hit that hard to justify permablocking(not talking trials here but I don't think these should be your immediate concern right now anyway ), so if you're running out of stamina, then just block when you have to. Between dragonblood/vigor/battle roar/stuff you shouldn't need much help from the healer even without blocking really, with exception of certain bosses.

Tiitus · April 2017

@Magdalina Thank you, very helpful.