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Elder Wardens Online
Paneross
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Prepare to be matched up with full Warden groups for dungeons and raids. Not because it's the new class, but because they are nerfing the game to the ground.
Instead of making the game more challenging by putting it harder content they just nerf you instead.
Why are skills getting nerfed instead of armor?
EWO 4 life.
Edited by Paneross on April 20, 2017 6:22PM Instead of making the game more challenging by putting it harder content they just nerf you instead.
Why are skills getting nerfed instead of armor?
EWO 4 life.
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KingKush✭✭✭✭Lots of bold assumptions coming from people who have not actually PLAYED said Warden class.
Xbox NA
GT: Live Like Kure
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Danksta✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Nerfing the ground to the game? Is that worse than nerfing the game into the ground?BawKinTackWarDs PS4/NA2 -
grizzledcroc✭✭✭✭Its funny from what im hearing from sources from the ptr warden really are not doing very good dps wise compared to others.2 -
Absalon✭✭✭1 Warden Tank
1 Warden Healer
2 Wardens DPS
Best dungeon setup 2017CP 810 (PC-NA)
Harnak - Magplar Healer (PVE)
Gavin - Magsorc DPS (PVE)
Manthys - Magplar DPS (PVP)
Adrya - Stamblade DPS (PVP)
Targesh - Stamplar DPS (PVP)4 -
Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Prepare to be matched up with full Warden groups for dungeons and raids. Not because it's the new class, but because they are nerfing the game to the ground.
Instead of making the game more challenging by putting it harder content they just nerf you instead.
Because fixing "easy mode" caused by character builds by making the game more challenging is called escalation. You fix the characters.XBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
PC NA/EU: @Elsonso
PSN NA/EU: @ElsonsoJannus
Total in-game hours: 11321
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Bouldercleave✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I think that I'm going to actually play a Warden and several of my other characters after the patch goes live before I make a determination if it is good or bad.
Personally, I like to make my own assessments vs. listening to the internet "mob rules" mentality.1 -
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✭✭✭Lol if they launch the game as is yeah you're right, but thankfully PTS isn't over yet
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austinwalter87ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Prepare to be matched up with full Warden groups for dungeons and raids. Not because it's the new class, but because they are nerfing the game to the ground.
Instead of making the game more challenging by putting it harder content they just nerf you instead.
Why are skills getting nerfed instead of armor?
EWO 4 life.
Armor didn't even need a nerf. It was overkill on top of the CP changesPC and PS4 (bring back character transfers please?)
Templar Extraordinaire2 -
faerigirl✭✭✭✭grizzledcroc wrote: »Its funny from what im hearing from sources from the ptr warden really are not doing very good dps wise compared to others.
Oh?Tell us who's talking...
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✭grizzledcroc wrote: »Its funny from what im hearing from sources from the ptr warden really are not doing very good dps wise compared to others.
Dps wise nobody has had enough time to dps crunch numbers with the multitude of different sets we have. We've had 3 years to finetune the other classes BiS
Give it a month and watch, and many of those PTS players won't speak about OP aspects in order to hide it. Just wait and see0 -
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✭✭✭✭grizzledcroc wrote: »Its funny from what im hearing from sources from the ptr warden really are not doing very good dps wise compared to others.
So did the destro staff ulti....2 -
STEVIL✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Prepare to be matched up with full Warden groups for dungeons and raids. Not because it's the new class, but because they are nerfing the game to the ground.
Instead of making the game more challenging by putting it harder content they just nerf you instead.
Why are skills getting nerfed instead of armor?
EWO 4 life.
Congratulations.
you have made the list.Proudly skooma free while talks-when-drunk is in mandatory public housing.
YFMV Your Fun May Vary.
First Law of Nerf-o-Dynamics
"The good way I used to get good kills *with good skill* was good but the way others kill me now is bad."1 -
EVERYONE saying they are tired of hearing stuff like this are blindly eating the s#%t sandwich. They nerfed every class to bring in a new one so everyone will buy it. Its obvious and a load of BS. Mmo's have died over stuff like this4
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✭✭✭Prepare to be matched up with full Warden groups for dungeons and raids. Not because it's the new class, but because they are nerfing the game to the ground.
Instead of making the game more challenging by putting it harder content they just nerf you instead.
Why are skills getting nerfed instead of armor?
EWO 4 life.
This makes no sense. Nerfs to other classes tells us nothing about the strength of the warden class. Can people stop with nonsense like this? If you have a reason to say warden is OP, share it. But this is nonsense.
ZOS didn't have to nerf anything if they wanted warden to be OP. They could just make it really powerful. Clearly the nerfs are because they think the new design is better. That, of course, can be debated (after actually playing).
Think how nonsensical it is to say that everyone will play class A because the entire game has been nerfed. How are those two statements related?
And others have claimed DPS will go up. How is that nerfing the game to the ground? Maybe they are making changes so that power is derived from a different place than previously.0 -
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✭✭✭Theoldsalem wrote: »EVERYONE saying they are tired of hearing stuff like this are blindly eating the s#%t sandwich. They nerfed every class to bring in a new one so everyone will buy it. Its obvious and a load of BS. Mmo's have died over stuff like this
Your comment is not well-thought out. They don't need to nerf anything to make warden more powerful. They can just make warden powerful! It is a new class.
Far more likely that they feel the new design is more balanced. I doubt it will be because balance is a white whale. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't have standards when criticizing.1 -
grizzledcroc✭✭✭✭grizzledcroc wrote: »Its funny from what im hearing from sources from the ptr warden really are not doing very good dps wise compared to others.
Oh?Tell us who's talking...
I cant say no more , if you get my drift >w>1 -
THEDKEXPERIENCE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Sigh ... this is just silly.
Warden comes out on June 6th. If you no life your Warden best case you'll have it equal to a current end game build in 6 weeks. And no, power leveling in 15 hours to level 50 is not the same. You still have to get lore books, and sky shards. You still need to get your Undaunted and Cyrodiil skills. You still need to take time to sleep, eat a sandwich or occasionally say hello to a family member.
If you are a full time worker, good luck, you're looking at 6 months. If you're on console with no add ons probably even longer. And let's not forget that you still need to learn how when to best utilize your abilities.
So ... what are we really looking at? Well the month of June will be a bloodletting for anyone playing a Warden. You're OP you say? Well enjoy my OP beam to your face that I have years of experience using. In dungeons, yeah, good luck getting accepted to an elite raid with Undaunted 4 as your level.
Come July there will be a few powerful Wardens. These characters will be run by people with 80 hours a week to play ESO. Chances are someone with this much time would be better at the game than you while using broom attacks anyway.
So now we are in August. The meta ... oh no ... it's changed to Warden! How will we ever survive?
Simple. Because if it's really that OP it will be nerfed in the early fall/late summer patch.
So I say enjoy rolling your Warden. Those 3 weeks of superiority that you'll have around Labor Day should totally be worth it!Edited by THEDKEXPERIENCE on April 20, 2017 8:06PM2 -
R1DD1CK✭✭Prepare to be matched up with full Warden groups for dungeons and raids. Not because it's the new class, but because they are nerfing the game to the ground.
Instead of making the game more challenging by putting it harder content they just nerf you instead.
Why are skills getting nerfed instead of armor?
EWO 4 life.
ESO is Dying .1
