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Is the Sky Falling? (Addressing everyone going ape **** in the forums)

trinimacNcheese
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After the Morrowind Pts Patch Notes released I thought for sure the sky was falling; everyone was going berserk over the changes! I think that people come onto the forums and read the patch notes and see something they don't like (say nerfs to templar) and attain the mentality that "because I don't a agree with a few of these changes, I don't like any of the changes with the new update" and then they grab their torches and pitchforks and join the **** storm culminating in the forums ranting of the ensuing "Nerfpocolypse."

-I agree with Zenimax on the cp changes, but they need to revert the changes they made to DK's and some Templar skills, as well as changes to armor passives. Also, they need to revert their change with abilities scaling off of your character level (wtf?!). With the nerfs to cp already, adding this change would most likely create terrible consequences from OVER nerfing resources (VMA would be a further nightmare and trials and dungeons would have much lower scores and take much longer, as the dps would significantly decrease).

- Zenimax needs to revert their nerf to repentance as their is absolutely no need for it as well as the nerf to shards, as that was uncalled for. Additionally, I agree with the Major Mending removal from Templars as Templars could gain the buff with 100% uptime which is a little too strong. They should implement another way, perhaps in the restoration treeline, where Major Mending could be attained for a period of time (just not 100% uptime) so all classes have the option of using the buff and still keep templars meta healers because they would have access to Major and Minor Mending. Zenimax should also add a penalty similar to streak on breath of life to prevent cheesy players from constantly spamming it. These changes would most likely revive the forumPTS Stamplars from their imaginary graves and make it so Templar healers are still the meta healers, but still lessen the effects of some of their healing (in PVP it was way too strong).

-I don't understand the people saying the removal of Major Mending is P2W for Wardens (Deltia and friends), although Zenimax should alter it so Warden's don't have it 100% of the time. So far I understand that Warden has access to the majority of buffs in the game, but the way people are putting it, the Warden has the same capabilities as an emperor and is COMPLETELY P2W because they have access to Major Mending and they are nerfing the other classes to make the Warden more appealing.

1). I think the Warden looks op on paper, and I may be wrong, but I don't think it will be as strong as everyone says. I see the Warden as a utility class in both PVP and PVE. I'm sure there will be Warden tanks and DDs but I doubt they will surpass the DK meta for tanking and MagSorc/Templar for DD.

2). I doubt Zenimax had in mind the plan to make Warden P2W. I think that, when they were creating skills and passives for the Warden, the developers were trying to give it unique buffs and access to buffs that other classes don't have, to try to make it more interesting and then they kind of just lost there way (or got lazy) and ended up throwing like literally every buff in the game onto the Warden.

3.) Even if the Warden is a little op a launch, people need to realize that the Warden is not immune to the nerf hammer (when Wardens gets nerfed I doubt everyone would be saying its "P2W") and that there have been op classes before in the game (ex: DK Vampires with Ulti Regen). FInally for people whining saying that sorcerers were not nerfed this patch: mark my words, I guarantee you, next pts patch notes will include sorcerer nerfs, most likely to dark deal/conversion and perhaps to address shield stacking.

-I do understand that players will be annoyed if their favorite class got nerfed, but I believe these reactions and claims are getting a little out of hand. I think that when Morrowind launches, yes the Warden may be a little op, because its the new class, but I doubt the rest of the classes will lag too far behind. Also Zenimax, you need to buff stamina characters, especially stamplars, in PVE if you want to maintain balance and diversity in the PVE setting. Furthermore, everyone should wait until the pts is revealed and the theorycrafters have run the numbers so we can really see if Warden is "P2W" Also, who knows, perhaps the new sets will address the resource issues of next patch by having strong 5 piece recovery stats.

NOW, if these pts patch notes stay as is with a couple days, maybe a week, until the Morrowind launch, then yes I would go riot and complain on the forums as that would be complete bs, but until then, stop acting like its Armageddon, and learn to adapt to change.



Edited by trinimacNcheese on April 20, 2017 3:48AM
  • SydneyGrey
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    Well that was nice and condescending.
  • Aliyavana
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    A tldr would be nice
  • Tasear
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    I actually wondering what's the plan for damage checks like vMol final boss, vAa final boss, vSo final boss.
  • Ihatenightblades
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    Didnt read all that but i went through some parts i dnt care about balance change that taked into effect for EVERYBODY so its fair.

    Whats making me put this game down is the no cp battlegrounds.

    I have so many builds ready bg for but they are probably trash builds without CP.

    All zos did for me was make this another grind fest for gear.. no thx im no longer investing no real money in this game until i get use of the 600 cp it took me 2 years to get..
    Edited by Ihatenightblades on April 20, 2017 3:13AM
  • geonsocal
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    read through most/some/few lines here and there...seems like you have some really pertinent points, and, you know what you're talking about...bullet points would work great though in this particular situation...

    and, yeah - until any of us have the resources to make their own game - we're all only along for the ride...ride it til the wheels fall off - or, get to stepping...
    Edited by geonsocal on April 20, 2017 3:14AM
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  • Cadbury
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    I predict complaining about complaining threads will become the new meta after the Morrowind update.

    And remember, my friends, future events such as this will affect you in the future.
    "If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."
  • akl77
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    Could be:
    1) cos anniversary gift box over and no events perks going on.
    2) world war 3 itches.
    Pc na
  • Pallio
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    The sky is falling, regardless if you want to lookup or not.

    RL and in game, we are doomed. Enjoy whatever time we have left.
  • Catches_the_Sun
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    "This will be a buff..." is literally Fake News.
    Catches-the-Sun - Argonian Templar - Master Smith, Provisioner, Chemist & Tailor
    Valaren Arobone - Dunmer Flamewalker - Master Woodworker, Provisioner, Assassin
    Kazahad - Khajiiti Arcane Archer - Master Thief
    V'orkten - Redguard Swordmaster
    Finnvardr the Frenzied - Werewolf Berzerker
  • Sausage
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    People are just over-excited Ive seen it million time during my gaming career.
  • vyndral13preub18_ESO
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    It is not so much the sky falling, as the ground rushing up to meet me.

    Which is literally one of the started goals of the patch. So it is strange to see people say the sky isn't coming down, and the floor isn't coming up.
    Edited by vyndral13preub18_ESO on April 20, 2017 4:14AM
  • DHale
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    My PVP guild leaders are capping templars at two per raid as of tonight even though the update is over a month away. One of the officers mains a Templar and said it's officially retired. So people can make all the comments but we have been instructed if you only have a Templar you will need to level an Alt. The quote was everything they were good out is now useless shards and repentance and ritual. So now the yew templars will just BoL and throw out magic balls. That's a quote btw. I sincerely hope this stuff does not go live. I however also plan to switch back to stam and throw my caltrops diligently.
    Edited by DHale on April 20, 2017 4:13AM
    Sorcerna, proud beta sorc. RIP April 2014 to May 31 2016 DArk Brotherhood. Out of retirement for negates and encases. Sorcerna will be going back into retirement to be my main crafter Fall 2018. Because an 8 k shield is f ing useless. Died because of baddies on the forum. Too much qq too little pew pew. 16 AD 2 DC. 0 EP cause they bad, CP 2300 plus 18 level 50 toons. NA, PC, Grey Host#SORCLIVESMATTER actually they don’t or they wouldn’t keep getting nerfed constantly.
  • Ch4mpTW
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    "This will be a buff..." is literally Fake News.

    I thought I was the only 1 who felt this. This was the most goofy thing I've seen in released patch notes to date. "This is a buff, if your ____ is below ____. A nerf if your _____ is above _____." WTF??? That doesn't even sound attractive.
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    "This will be a buff..." is literally Fake News.

    I thought I was the only 1 who felt this. This was the most goofy thing I've seen in released patch notes to date. "This is a buff, if your ____ is below ____. A nerf if your _____ is above _____." WTF??? That doesn't even sound attractive.

    This will be a buff .... You have too many rims .

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  • geonsocal
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    "This will be a buff..." is literally Fake News.

    I thought I was the only 1 who felt this. This was the most goofy thing I've seen in released patch notes to date. "This is a buff, if your ____ is below ____. A nerf if your _____ is above _____." WTF??? That doesn't even sound attractive.

    i was too focused on getting hosed on rewards for the worthy to pay that much attention - but, yeah a nerf if your_____is above______ does sound a little ominous now that you mention it...
    Edited by geonsocal on April 20, 2017 5:02AM
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  • JinMori
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    The patch notes are a *** disaster, not only they nerfed cp, but they nerfed basically every class, stamina will be completely *** useless, and magicka will have so many sustain issues that only the best of the best will be able to even attempt vet trials, so yea, morrowind will be disastrous if it goes live like this.

    You build a game all around damage, and it was fun, and now you destroy it, i expect a lot of players leaving. Seen the reaction on the forums.

    I just don't understand why zenimax can't make more small changes instead of overhauling the game every *** patch.

    I for sure won't play the game if it goes live like that. The fact that you could sustain with certain skill setups was one of my favorite aspect of the game.
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