Can be closed

akl77 · April 2017

Not interested in this discussion anymore. Everyone has their own opinion and playstyle and definition of fun.
At the end of the day dev has the say, it is what it is. Just embrace it.

Zvorgin · April 2017

Well as long as everyone plays just like you we shouldn't have a problem. Why do they even give two nerf choices?

I don't even play a Templar and I think this is a worthless post you made.

akl77 · April 2017

Zvorgin wrote: »

Well as long as everyone plays just like you we shouldn't have a problem. Why do they even give two nerf choices?

I don't even play a Templar and I think this is a worthless post you made.

It's not worthless post, I just want to understand what's the reasons behind the outcries?

Tasear · April 2017

I think your post is insightful. I was starting to believe all Templar mains had God complexes. Yes the Templar healer was too dominating in the role of healing so now we see a backlash as people will have to fight for their Healers. Now all dragon knights healers, nightblade healers, sorrecer healers can come out to play.

So in summary making things balance means one side will lose power, but the playing field is leveled

akl77 · April 2017

Tasear wrote: »

I think your post is insightful. I was starting to believe all Templar mains had God complexes. Yes the Templar healer was too dominating in the role of healing so now we see a backlash as people will have to fight for their Healers. Now all dragon knights healers, nightblade healers, sorrecer healers can come out to play.

So in summary making things balance means one side will lose power, but the playing field is leveled

Exactly, other classes need a chance of playing healers too if they want, don't make Templar a healer class.

Ron_Burgundy_79 · April 2017

akl77 wrote: »

Aedric Spear
Spear Shards: The synergy from this ability and its morphs now restore Stamina or Magicka, whichever percentage is lower. The amount restored is now based on your character level instead of your Max Resource. The synergy also has a shared cooldown with the Necrotic Orb synergy.
Luminous Shards (Spear Shards morph): This morph now causes the synergy to also restore an equal amount of Magicka or Stamina to the casting Templar, with a 20-second cooldown.

why rely so heavily on shards for your stam back? Use potions tanks and dps. Restore stam in not Templar's job, it's your build flaw if you have resources regen issues.

Dawn’s Wrath
Eclipse:
This ability and its morphs now last for 3.5 seconds, down from 6 seconds, but can no longer be removed with Break Free. After the effect ends, enemies will gain CC-immunity.
Reduced the cost of this ability and its morphs by approximately 20%.

Who uses this? Never, so don't care

Power of the Light (Backlash morph): Fixed an issue where the damage from this morph could be dodged.

good fix

Purifying Light (Backlash morph): Fixed an issue where the heal from this morph could not critically strike.

Good nerf

Restoring Light
Mending: This passive ability now increases the healing done by Restoring Light abilities by 6/12% based on the target’s missing health, up from 5/10%.

good nerf

Repentance (Restoring Aura morph): This morph now restores Health and Stamina based on your character level instead of your Max Resource. It also only restores Stamina to the casting Templar, but continues to restore Health to the casting Templar and his allies.

who still uses this, used the aura morph already, so don't care

Rushed Ceremony: This ability and its morphs now heal friendly targets in a 180 degree cone in front of you, instead of all targets in a radius around you.

fair nerf, now watch your footings and position your self, instead of blindly spamming breath of life, this is fair and all about strategy and skills, I love positioning based play

Sacred Ground: This passive ability now grants Minor Mending instead of Major Mending when you are standing in your Cleansing Ritual, Rune Focus, or Rite of Passage areas of effect.

dont need major mending anyway, use your cp and gear set ups, also we Templars aren't just playing healer roles, so don't class us with major mending powerful heals.

For the above patch notes, I really not sure what the drama and complaints are about?? Care to explain your views??
It didn't take away your jabs or beam or Bol, those are Templar's main features.
Note: my main and fav is my dear Templar and it can play as healer, tank, dps, tank and heal, with respec, it's awesome imo.

Do you even templar? This is one of the more ignorant posts I've seen over the past couple days, and that's saying alot.

akl77 · April 2017

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

akl77 wrote: »

Aedric Spear
Spear Shards: The synergy from this ability and its morphs now restore Stamina or Magicka, whichever percentage is lower. The amount restored is now based on your character level instead of your Max Resource. The synergy also has a shared cooldown with the Necrotic Orb synergy.
Luminous Shards (Spear Shards morph): This morph now causes the synergy to also restore an equal amount of Magicka or Stamina to the casting Templar, with a 20-second cooldown.

why rely so heavily on shards for your stam back? Use potions tanks and dps. Restore stam in not Templar's job, it's your build flaw if you have resources regen issues.

Dawn’s Wrath
Eclipse:
This ability and its morphs now last for 3.5 seconds, down from 6 seconds, but can no longer be removed with Break Free. After the effect ends, enemies will gain CC-immunity.
Reduced the cost of this ability and its morphs by approximately 20%.

Who uses this? Never, so don't care

Power of the Light (Backlash morph): Fixed an issue where the damage from this morph could be dodged.

good fix

Purifying Light (Backlash morph): Fixed an issue where the heal from this morph could not critically strike.

Good nerf

Restoring Light
Mending: This passive ability now increases the healing done by Restoring Light abilities by 6/12% based on the target’s missing health, up from 5/10%.

good nerf

Repentance (Restoring Aura morph): This morph now restores Health and Stamina based on your character level instead of your Max Resource. It also only restores Stamina to the casting Templar, but continues to restore Health to the casting Templar and his allies.

who still uses this, used the aura morph already, so don't care

Rushed Ceremony: This ability and its morphs now heal friendly targets in a 180 degree cone in front of you, instead of all targets in a radius around you.

fair nerf, now watch your footings and position your self, instead of blindly spamming breath of life, this is fair and all about strategy and skills, I love positioning based play

Sacred Ground: This passive ability now grants Minor Mending instead of Major Mending when you are standing in your Cleansing Ritual, Rune Focus, or Rite of Passage areas of effect.

dont need major mending anyway, use your cp and gear set ups, also we Templars aren't just playing healer roles, so don't class us with major mending powerful heals.

For the above patch notes, I really not sure what the drama and complaints are about?? Care to explain your views??
It didn't take away your jabs or beam or Bol, those are Templar's main features.
Note: my main and fav is my dear Templar and it can play as healer, tank, dps, tank and heal, with respec, it's awesome imo.

Do you even templar? This is one of the more ignorant posts I've seen over the past couple days, and that's saying alot.

Stop trolling, put in your explanations and reasoning instead of throwing sarcastic comments, it only shows you're trolling and it doesn't change a thing.

hmsdragonfly · April 2017

akl77 wrote: »

Zvorgin wrote: »

Well as long as everyone plays just like you we shouldn't have a problem. Why do they even give two nerf choices?

I don't even play a Templar and I think this is a worthless post you made.

It's not worthless post, I just want to understand what's the reasons behind the outcries?

Well Templar healers think that Sorc healers are going to take their jobs.

But actually it's not the case, Templar healers will still be the stronger class in healing, but now it means if you aren't good enough, a sorc healer who is better than you will have a chance to take your job. Like how a Templar DPS can take over the a DD spot in a raid from a sorc if the sorc performs poorly.

So yeah, improve your skills, Templar healers, and you will be fine.

akl77 · April 2017

Can anyone explain why the outcries is for? Which part of the patch you disagree? Why is there silence?

Ron_Burgundy_79 · April 2017

akl77 wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

akl77 wrote: »

Aedric Spear
Spear Shards: The synergy from this ability and its morphs now restore Stamina or Magicka, whichever percentage is lower. The amount restored is now based on your character level instead of your Max Resource. The synergy also has a shared cooldown with the Necrotic Orb synergy.
Luminous Shards (Spear Shards morph): This morph now causes the synergy to also restore an equal amount of Magicka or Stamina to the casting Templar, with a 20-second cooldown.

why rely so heavily on shards for your stam back? Use potions tanks and dps. Restore stam in not Templar's job, it's your build flaw if you have resources regen issues.

Dawn’s Wrath
Eclipse:
This ability and its morphs now last for 3.5 seconds, down from 6 seconds, but can no longer be removed with Break Free. After the effect ends, enemies will gain CC-immunity.
Reduced the cost of this ability and its morphs by approximately 20%.

Who uses this? Never, so don't care

Power of the Light (Backlash morph): Fixed an issue where the damage from this morph could be dodged.

good fix

Purifying Light (Backlash morph): Fixed an issue where the heal from this morph could not critically strike.

Good nerf

Restoring Light
Mending: This passive ability now increases the healing done by Restoring Light abilities by 6/12% based on the target’s missing health, up from 5/10%.

good nerf

Repentance (Restoring Aura morph): This morph now restores Health and Stamina based on your character level instead of your Max Resource. It also only restores Stamina to the casting Templar, but continues to restore Health to the casting Templar and his allies.

who still uses this, used the aura morph already, so don't care

Rushed Ceremony: This ability and its morphs now heal friendly targets in a 180 degree cone in front of you, instead of all targets in a radius around you.

fair nerf, now watch your footings and position your self, instead of blindly spamming breath of life, this is fair and all about strategy and skills, I love positioning based play

Sacred Ground: This passive ability now grants Minor Mending instead of Major Mending when you are standing in your Cleansing Ritual, Rune Focus, or Rite of Passage areas of effect.

dont need major mending anyway, use your cp and gear set ups, also we Templars aren't just playing healer roles, so don't class us with major mending powerful heals.

For the above patch notes, I really not sure what the drama and complaints are about?? Care to explain your views??
It didn't take away your jabs or beam or Bol, those are Templar's main features.
Note: my main and fav is my dear Templar and it can play as healer, tank, dps, tank and heal, with respec, it's awesome imo.

Do you even templar? This is one of the more ignorant posts I've seen over the past couple days, and that's saying alot.

Stop trolling, put in your explanations and reasoning instead of throwing sarcastic comments, it only shows you're trolling and it doesn't change a thing.

I've typed thousands and thousands of words on these forums regarding them templar class. I have somewhere around 2500 hours on my magplar. The OP honestly doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.

LordGavus · April 2017

I agree with most of this OP.
Some if the changes caused me to raise an eyebrow, but I don't think its the end if the world.

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

akl77 wrote: »

Aedric Spear
Spear Shards: The synergy from this ability and its morphs now restore Stamina or Magicka, whichever percentage is lower. The amount restored is now based on your character level instead of your Max Resource. The synergy also has a shared cooldown with the Necrotic Orb synergy.
Luminous Shards (Spear Shards morph): This morph now causes the synergy to also restore an equal amount of Magicka or Stamina to the casting Templar, with a 20-second cooldown.

why rely so heavily on shards for your stam back? Use potions tanks and dps. Restore stam in not Templar's job, it's your build flaw if you have resources regen issues.

Dawn’s Wrath
Eclipse:
This ability and its morphs now last for 3.5 seconds, down from 6 seconds, but can no longer be removed with Break Free. After the effect ends, enemies will gain CC-immunity.
Reduced the cost of this ability and its morphs by approximately 20%.

Who uses this? Never, so don't care

Power of the Light (Backlash morph): Fixed an issue where the damage from this morph could be dodged.

good fix

Purifying Light (Backlash morph): Fixed an issue where the heal from this morph could not critically strike.

Good nerf

Restoring Light
Mending: This passive ability now increases the healing done by Restoring Light abilities by 6/12% based on the target’s missing health, up from 5/10%.

good nerf

Repentance (Restoring Aura morph): This morph now restores Health and Stamina based on your character level instead of your Max Resource. It also only restores Stamina to the casting Templar, but continues to restore Health to the casting Templar and his allies.

who still uses this, used the aura morph already, so don't care

Rushed Ceremony: This ability and its morphs now heal friendly targets in a 180 degree cone in front of you, instead of all targets in a radius around you.

fair nerf, now watch your footings and position your self, instead of blindly spamming breath of life, this is fair and all about strategy and skills, I love positioning based play

Sacred Ground: This passive ability now grants Minor Mending instead of Major Mending when you are standing in your Cleansing Ritual, Rune Focus, or Rite of Passage areas of effect.

dont need major mending anyway, use your cp and gear set ups, also we Templars aren't just playing healer roles, so don't class us with major mending powerful heals.

For the above patch notes, I really not sure what the drama and complaints are about?? Care to explain your views??
It didn't take away your jabs or beam or Bol, those are Templar's main features.
Note: my main and fav is my dear Templar and it can play as healer, tank, dps, tank and heal, with respec, it's awesome imo.

Do you even templar? This is one of the more ignorant posts I've seen over the past couple days, and that's saying alot.

I've played a templar healer for years. In vet dungeons and trials.
This patch will change things but its really not the end of Templar healing.

It's OK to be concerned about the changes and valid concerns should be raised. But let's keep the hyperbole in check.

akl77 · April 2017

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

akl77 wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

akl77 wrote: »

Aedric Spear
Spear Shards: The synergy from this ability and its morphs now restore Stamina or Magicka, whichever percentage is lower. The amount restored is now based on your character level instead of your Max Resource. The synergy also has a shared cooldown with the Necrotic Orb synergy.
Luminous Shards (Spear Shards morph): This morph now causes the synergy to also restore an equal amount of Magicka or Stamina to the casting Templar, with a 20-second cooldown.

why rely so heavily on shards for your stam back? Use potions tanks and dps. Restore stam in not Templar's job, it's your build flaw if you have resources regen issues.

Dawn’s Wrath
Eclipse:
This ability and its morphs now last for 3.5 seconds, down from 6 seconds, but can no longer be removed with Break Free. After the effect ends, enemies will gain CC-immunity.
Reduced the cost of this ability and its morphs by approximately 20%.

Who uses this? Never, so don't care

Power of the Light (Backlash morph): Fixed an issue where the damage from this morph could be dodged.

good fix

Purifying Light (Backlash morph): Fixed an issue where the heal from this morph could not critically strike.

Good nerf

Restoring Light
Mending: This passive ability now increases the healing done by Restoring Light abilities by 6/12% based on the target’s missing health, up from 5/10%.

good nerf

Repentance (Restoring Aura morph): This morph now restores Health and Stamina based on your character level instead of your Max Resource. It also only restores Stamina to the casting Templar, but continues to restore Health to the casting Templar and his allies.

who still uses this, used the aura morph already, so don't care

Rushed Ceremony: This ability and its morphs now heal friendly targets in a 180 degree cone in front of you, instead of all targets in a radius around you.

fair nerf, now watch your footings and position your self, instead of blindly spamming breath of life, this is fair and all about strategy and skills, I love positioning based play

Sacred Ground: This passive ability now grants Minor Mending instead of Major Mending when you are standing in your Cleansing Ritual, Rune Focus, or Rite of Passage areas of effect.

dont need major mending anyway, use your cp and gear set ups, also we Templars aren't just playing healer roles, so don't class us with major mending powerful heals.

For the above patch notes, I really not sure what the drama and complaints are about?? Care to explain your views??
It didn't take away your jabs or beam or Bol, those are Templar's main features.
Note: my main and fav is my dear Templar and it can play as healer, tank, dps, tank and heal, with respec, it's awesome imo.

Do you even templar? This is one of the more ignorant posts I've seen over the past couple days, and that's saying alot.

Stop trolling, put in your explanations and reasoning instead of throwing sarcastic comments, it only shows you're trolling and it doesn't change a thing.

I've typed thousands and thousands of words on these forums regarding them templar class. I have somewhere around 2500 hours on my magplar. The OP honestly doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.

I have played my stamplar, magplar for more than 2500 hours mate.
All vet dungeons, trials, maelstrom arena, PVP, tank, healer, dps, tank and heal, all sorts.

Ron_Burgundy_79 · April 2017

akl77 wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

akl77 wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

akl77 wrote: »

Aedric Spear
Spear Shards: The synergy from this ability and its morphs now restore Stamina or Magicka, whichever percentage is lower. The amount restored is now based on your character level instead of your Max Resource. The synergy also has a shared cooldown with the Necrotic Orb synergy.
Luminous Shards (Spear Shards morph): This morph now causes the synergy to also restore an equal amount of Magicka or Stamina to the casting Templar, with a 20-second cooldown.

why rely so heavily on shards for your stam back? Use potions tanks and dps. Restore stam in not Templar's job, it's your build flaw if you have resources regen issues.

Dawn’s Wrath
Eclipse:
This ability and its morphs now last for 3.5 seconds, down from 6 seconds, but can no longer be removed with Break Free. After the effect ends, enemies will gain CC-immunity.
Reduced the cost of this ability and its morphs by approximately 20%.

Who uses this? Never, so don't care

Power of the Light (Backlash morph): Fixed an issue where the damage from this morph could be dodged.

good fix

Purifying Light (Backlash morph): Fixed an issue where the heal from this morph could not critically strike.

Good nerf

Restoring Light
Mending: This passive ability now increases the healing done by Restoring Light abilities by 6/12% based on the target’s missing health, up from 5/10%.

good nerf

Repentance (Restoring Aura morph): This morph now restores Health and Stamina based on your character level instead of your Max Resource. It also only restores Stamina to the casting Templar, but continues to restore Health to the casting Templar and his allies.

who still uses this, used the aura morph already, so don't care

Rushed Ceremony: This ability and its morphs now heal friendly targets in a 180 degree cone in front of you, instead of all targets in a radius around you.

fair nerf, now watch your footings and position your self, instead of blindly spamming breath of life, this is fair and all about strategy and skills, I love positioning based play

Sacred Ground: This passive ability now grants Minor Mending instead of Major Mending when you are standing in your Cleansing Ritual, Rune Focus, or Rite of Passage areas of effect.

dont need major mending anyway, use your cp and gear set ups, also we Templars aren't just playing healer roles, so don't class us with major mending powerful heals.

For the above patch notes, I really not sure what the drama and complaints are about?? Care to explain your views??
It didn't take away your jabs or beam or Bol, those are Templar's main features.
Note: my main and fav is my dear Templar and it can play as healer, tank, dps, tank and heal, with respec, it's awesome imo.

Do you even templar? This is one of the more ignorant posts I've seen over the past couple days, and that's saying alot.

Stop trolling, put in your explanations and reasoning instead of throwing sarcastic comments, it only shows you're trolling and it doesn't change a thing.

I've typed thousands and thousands of words on these forums regarding them templar class. I have somewhere around 2500 hours on my magplar. The OP honestly doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.

I have played my stamplar, magplar for more than 2500 hours mate.
All vet dungeons, trials, maelstrom arena, PVP, tank, healer, dps, tank and heal, all sorts.

What platform? If you're wanting feedback go search out the numerous threads made throughout the forums on all these issues. Go troll elsewhere kids.

Tasear · April 2017

hmsdragonfly wrote: »

akl77 wrote: »

Zvorgin wrote: »

Well as long as everyone plays just like you we shouldn't have a problem. Why do they even give two nerf choices?

I don't even play a Templar and I think this is a worthless post you made.

It's not worthless post, I just want to understand what's the reasons behind the outcries?

Well Templar healers think that Sorc healers are going to take their jobs.

But actually it's not the case, Templar healers will still be the stronger class in healing, but now it means if you aren't good enough, a sorc healer who is better than you will have a chance to take your job. Like how a Templar DPS can take over the a DD spot in a raid from a sorc if the sorc performs poorly.

So yeah, improve your skills, Templar healers, and you will be fine.

Indeed, as main sorrecer healer, I am awaiting to take your job. Being honest, I smile when I seen all this. I never expected they would make the playing field level.

Here's what of happen if they didn't. Along with all the new substain issue. We would of seen a reverse to Templar only healers. The minority healers would of became third class citizens. In turn less healers in queue, meaning less groups in group finder.

Instead they leveled the playing field before it was too late. So now it's going to be about skill. It's going to be about skill instead of class.

It's refreshing changes

akl77 · April 2017

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

akl77 wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

akl77 wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

akl77 wrote: »

Aedric Spear
Spear Shards: The synergy from this ability and its morphs now restore Stamina or Magicka, whichever percentage is lower. The amount restored is now based on your character level instead of your Max Resource. The synergy also has a shared cooldown with the Necrotic Orb synergy.
Luminous Shards (Spear Shards morph): This morph now causes the synergy to also restore an equal amount of Magicka or Stamina to the casting Templar, with a 20-second cooldown.

why rely so heavily on shards for your stam back? Use potions tanks and dps. Restore stam in not Templar's job, it's your build flaw if you have resources regen issues.

Dawn’s Wrath
Eclipse:
This ability and its morphs now last for 3.5 seconds, down from 6 seconds, but can no longer be removed with Break Free. After the effect ends, enemies will gain CC-immunity.
Reduced the cost of this ability and its morphs by approximately 20%.

Who uses this? Never, so don't care

Power of the Light (Backlash morph): Fixed an issue where the damage from this morph could be dodged.

good fix

Purifying Light (Backlash morph): Fixed an issue where the heal from this morph could not critically strike.

Good nerf

Restoring Light
Mending: This passive ability now increases the healing done by Restoring Light abilities by 6/12% based on the target’s missing health, up from 5/10%.

good nerf

Repentance (Restoring Aura morph): This morph now restores Health and Stamina based on your character level instead of your Max Resource. It also only restores Stamina to the casting Templar, but continues to restore Health to the casting Templar and his allies.

who still uses this, used the aura morph already, so don't care

Rushed Ceremony: This ability and its morphs now heal friendly targets in a 180 degree cone in front of you, instead of all targets in a radius around you.

fair nerf, now watch your footings and position your self, instead of blindly spamming breath of life, this is fair and all about strategy and skills, I love positioning based play

Sacred Ground: This passive ability now grants Minor Mending instead of Major Mending when you are standing in your Cleansing Ritual, Rune Focus, or Rite of Passage areas of effect.

dont need major mending anyway, use your cp and gear set ups, also we Templars aren't just playing healer roles, so don't class us with major mending powerful heals.

For the above patch notes, I really not sure what the drama and complaints are about?? Care to explain your views??
It didn't take away your jabs or beam or Bol, those are Templar's main features.
Note: my main and fav is my dear Templar and it can play as healer, tank, dps, tank and heal, with respec, it's awesome imo.

Do you even templar? This is one of the more ignorant posts I've seen over the past couple days, and that's saying alot.

Stop trolling, put in your explanations and reasoning instead of throwing sarcastic comments, it only shows you're trolling and it doesn't change a thing.

I've typed thousands and thousands of words on these forums regarding them templar class. I have somewhere around 2500 hours on my magplar. The OP honestly doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.

I have played my stamplar, magplar for more than 2500 hours mate.
All vet dungeons, trials, maelstrom arena, PVP, tank, healer, dps, tank and heal, all sorts.

What platform? If you're wanting feedback go search out the numerous threads made throughout the forums on all these issues. Go troll elsewhere kids.

First I'm not a kid, I'm 36. Your stereotype and comments is not appropriate.
2ndly, why do you ask me what platform? See my signatures below..

Ron_Burgundy_79 · April 2017

akl77 wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

akl77 wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

akl77 wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

akl77 wrote: »

Aedric Spear
Spear Shards: The synergy from this ability and its morphs now restore Stamina or Magicka, whichever percentage is lower. The amount restored is now based on your character level instead of your Max Resource. The synergy also has a shared cooldown with the Necrotic Orb synergy.
Luminous Shards (Spear Shards morph): This morph now causes the synergy to also restore an equal amount of Magicka or Stamina to the casting Templar, with a 20-second cooldown.

why rely so heavily on shards for your stam back? Use potions tanks and dps. Restore stam in not Templar's job, it's your build flaw if you have resources regen issues.

Dawn’s Wrath
Eclipse:
This ability and its morphs now last for 3.5 seconds, down from 6 seconds, but can no longer be removed with Break Free. After the effect ends, enemies will gain CC-immunity.
Reduced the cost of this ability and its morphs by approximately 20%.

Who uses this? Never, so don't care

Power of the Light (Backlash morph): Fixed an issue where the damage from this morph could be dodged.

good fix

Purifying Light (Backlash morph): Fixed an issue where the heal from this morph could not critically strike.

Good nerf

Restoring Light
Mending: This passive ability now increases the healing done by Restoring Light abilities by 6/12% based on the target’s missing health, up from 5/10%.

good nerf

Repentance (Restoring Aura morph): This morph now restores Health and Stamina based on your character level instead of your Max Resource. It also only restores Stamina to the casting Templar, but continues to restore Health to the casting Templar and his allies.

who still uses this, used the aura morph already, so don't care

Rushed Ceremony: This ability and its morphs now heal friendly targets in a 180 degree cone in front of you, instead of all targets in a radius around you.

fair nerf, now watch your footings and position your self, instead of blindly spamming breath of life, this is fair and all about strategy and skills, I love positioning based play

Sacred Ground: This passive ability now grants Minor Mending instead of Major Mending when you are standing in your Cleansing Ritual, Rune Focus, or Rite of Passage areas of effect.

dont need major mending anyway, use your cp and gear set ups, also we Templars aren't just playing healer roles, so don't class us with major mending powerful heals.

For the above patch notes, I really not sure what the drama and complaints are about?? Care to explain your views??
It didn't take away your jabs or beam or Bol, those are Templar's main features.
Note: my main and fav is my dear Templar and it can play as healer, tank, dps, tank and heal, with respec, it's awesome imo.

Do you even templar? This is one of the more ignorant posts I've seen over the past couple days, and that's saying alot.

Stop trolling, put in your explanations and reasoning instead of throwing sarcastic comments, it only shows you're trolling and it doesn't change a thing.

I've typed thousands and thousands of words on these forums regarding them templar class. I have somewhere around 2500 hours on my magplar. The OP honestly doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.

I have played my stamplar, magplar for more than 2500 hours mate.
All vet dungeons, trials, maelstrom arena, PVP, tank, healer, dps, tank and heal, all sorts.

What platform? If you're wanting feedback go search out the numerous threads made throughout the forums on all these issues. Go troll elsewhere kids.

First I'm not a kid, I'm 37. Your stereotype and comments is not appropriate.
2ndly, why do you ask me what platform? See my signatures below..

I cannot see your signature as I am currently on the mobile version of the forums.

Cadbury · April 2017

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

akl77 wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

akl77 wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

akl77 wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

akl77 wrote: »

Aedric Spear
Spear Shards: The synergy from this ability and its morphs now restore Stamina or Magicka, whichever percentage is lower. The amount restored is now based on your character level instead of your Max Resource. The synergy also has a shared cooldown with the Necrotic Orb synergy.
Luminous Shards (Spear Shards morph): This morph now causes the synergy to also restore an equal amount of Magicka or Stamina to the casting Templar, with a 20-second cooldown.

why rely so heavily on shards for your stam back? Use potions tanks and dps. Restore stam in not Templar's job, it's your build flaw if you have resources regen issues.

Dawn’s Wrath
Eclipse:
This ability and its morphs now last for 3.5 seconds, down from 6 seconds, but can no longer be removed with Break Free. After the effect ends, enemies will gain CC-immunity.
Reduced the cost of this ability and its morphs by approximately 20%.

Who uses this? Never, so don't care

Power of the Light (Backlash morph): Fixed an issue where the damage from this morph could be dodged.

good fix

Purifying Light (Backlash morph): Fixed an issue where the heal from this morph could not critically strike.

Good nerf

Restoring Light
Mending: This passive ability now increases the healing done by Restoring Light abilities by 6/12% based on the target’s missing health, up from 5/10%.

good nerf

Repentance (Restoring Aura morph): This morph now restores Health and Stamina based on your character level instead of your Max Resource. It also only restores Stamina to the casting Templar, but continues to restore Health to the casting Templar and his allies.

who still uses this, used the aura morph already, so don't care

Rushed Ceremony: This ability and its morphs now heal friendly targets in a 180 degree cone in front of you, instead of all targets in a radius around you.

fair nerf, now watch your footings and position your self, instead of blindly spamming breath of life, this is fair and all about strategy and skills, I love positioning based play

Sacred Ground: This passive ability now grants Minor Mending instead of Major Mending when you are standing in your Cleansing Ritual, Rune Focus, or Rite of Passage areas of effect.

dont need major mending anyway, use your cp and gear set ups, also we Templars aren't just playing healer roles, so don't class us with major mending powerful heals.

For the above patch notes, I really not sure what the drama and complaints are about?? Care to explain your views??
It didn't take away your jabs or beam or Bol, those are Templar's main features.
Note: my main and fav is my dear Templar and it can play as healer, tank, dps, tank and heal, with respec, it's awesome imo.

Do you even templar? This is one of the more ignorant posts I've seen over the past couple days, and that's saying alot.

Stop trolling, put in your explanations and reasoning instead of throwing sarcastic comments, it only shows you're trolling and it doesn't change a thing.

I've typed thousands and thousands of words on these forums regarding them templar class. I have somewhere around 2500 hours on my magplar. The OP honestly doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.

I have played my stamplar, magplar for more than 2500 hours mate.
All vet dungeons, trials, maelstrom arena, PVP, tank, healer, dps, tank and heal, all sorts.

What platform? If you're wanting feedback go search out the numerous threads made throughout the forums on all these issues. Go troll elsewhere kids.

First I'm not a kid, I'm 37. Your stereotype and comments is not appropriate.
2ndly, why do you ask me what platform? See my signatures below..

I cannot see your signature as I am currently on the mobile version of the forums.

He/she is a PS4 player

akl77 · April 2017

Tasear wrote: »

hmsdragonfly wrote: »

akl77 wrote: »

Zvorgin wrote: »

Well as long as everyone plays just like you we shouldn't have a problem. Why do they even give two nerf choices?

I don't even play a Templar and I think this is a worthless post you made.

It's not worthless post, I just want to understand what's the reasons behind the outcries?

Well Templar healers think that Sorc healers are going to take their jobs.

But actually it's not the case, Templar healers will still be the stronger class in healing, but now it means if you aren't good enough, a sorc healer who is better than you will have a chance to take your job. Like how a Templar DPS can take over the a DD spot in a raid from a sorc if the sorc performs poorly.

So yeah, improve your skills, Templar healers, and you will be fine.

Indeed, as main sorrecer healer, I am awaiting to take your job. Being honest, I smile when I seen all this. I never expected they would make the playing field level.

Here's what of happen if they didn't. Along with all the new substain issue. We would of seen a reverse to Templar only healers. The minority healers would of became third class citizens. In turn less healers in queue, meaning less groups in group finder.

Instead they leveled the playing field before it was too late. So now it's going to be about skill. It's going to be about skill instead of class.

It's refreshing changes

Good point about less queuing time, didn't thought of that advantage.
Yea it breaks my heart when my mates say with shame that they heal with sorcerer, now hopefully they can lift up their heads.

Goshua · April 2017

So we'll have minor and major mending if we use a resto staff, no complaints there. If you're healing it makes sense.

Personally, burst healing aside, what have we left not best covered by other classes.

If you want to dps; best to play a sorc , if you want to tank; jack up your wardens health, still do dps.

Other things Templar's had; major resolve, ward and defile (warden even gets an AOE defile) all pinched by Wardens.

That's fine, look at Templars skills, if you want to gut them give them something back that's unique that's not a situational skill like eclipse, rework dark flare, change rune so its not over written by a aoe buff everytime a warden walks in the room.

Sounds like I'm bemoaning Wardens, I'm not, good luck to them, but if its not obvious that they ripped Templars a new one to make them more appealing then I'm not sure what else to say.

akl77 · April 2017

Goshua wrote: »

So we'll have minor and major mending if we use a resto staff, no complaints there. If you're healing it makes sense.

Personally, burst healing aside, what have we left not best covered by other classes.

If you want to dps; best to play a sorc , if you want to tank; jack up your wardens health, still do dps.

Other things Templar's had; major resolve, ward and defile (warden even gets an AOE defile) all pinched by Wardens.

That's fine, look at Templars skills, if you want to gut them give them something back that's unique that's not a situational skill like eclipse, rework dark flare, change rune so its not over written by a aoe buff everytime a warden walks in the room.

Sounds like I'm bemoaning Wardens, I'm not, good luck to them, but if its not obvious that they ripped Templars a new one to make them more appealing then I'm not sure what else to say.

Jabs and beam still works wonders, especially the mag jabs that actually heals self sustain that don't even need a healer.

Dantaria · April 2017

I know, why there is no answers. Your post is indeed ignorant. Though the question for you shouldn't be "do you play templar?". The question for you should be "do you do endgame content?". Because even though you say you do... I have my doubts. Or maybe... Maybe you did. With a top-notch group.

akl77 wrote: »

why rely so heavily on shards for your stam back? Use potions tanks and dps. Restore stam in not Templar's job, it's your build flaw if you have resources regen issues.

vAA last boss? Because that's how it is for us, simple mortals, who, you know... Are not maxed-out and still farm golden jewellry.

8 DDs isn't enough for last phase. So we're making it by 9 DD + Tank + 2 Healers. One tank. Who holds all the axes. Breaking news - you run out of stamina. One of our healers is permamently glued to the tank, feeding him shards, heals, whatever. If tank loses axes... Bye. As you must be aware. Other healer heals raid.

Vet HM CoS. Erm... Tank needs shards. Vet Ophidia, Lamia, off-tank holds the adds. He needs shards.

So what? Only maxed-out people must be allowed in trials?

akl77 wrote: »

dont need major mending anyway, use your cp and gear set ups, also we Templars aren't just playing healer roles, so don't class us with major mending powerful heals.

lolwut? Pretty much any execute phase? When people would be dropping like flies if not for Major Mending? And people still die. Healing through the same last phase of last vAA boss? Erm... 1st vMoL boss, shield phases? vHA Warrior? Like... what?

I have a feeling that in vTrials you only DPS...

Cadbury · April 2017

akl77 wrote: »

Goshua wrote: »

So we'll have minor and major mending if we use a resto staff, no complaints there. If you're healing it makes sense.

Personally, burst healing aside, what have we left not best covered by other classes.

If you want to dps; best to play a sorc , if you want to tank; jack up your wardens health, still do dps.

Other things Templar's had; major resolve, ward and defile (warden even gets an AOE defile) all pinched by Wardens.

That's fine, look at Templars skills, if you want to gut them give them something back that's unique that's not a situational skill like eclipse, rework dark flare, change rune so its not over written by a aoe buff everytime a warden walks in the room.

Sounds like I'm bemoaning Wardens, I'm not, good luck to them, but if its not obvious that they ripped Templars a new one to make them more appealing then I'm not sure what else to say.

Jabs and beam still works wonders, especially the mag jabs that actually heals self sustain that don't even need a healer.

Please don't "fix" my jabs, ZOS

Please? :'(

hmsdragonfly · April 2017

Dantaria wrote: »

I know, why there is no answers. Your post is indeed ignorant. Though the question for you shouldn't be "do you play templar?". The question for you should be "do you do endgame content?". Because even though you say you do... I have my doubts. Or maybe... Maybe you did. With a top-notch group.

akl77 wrote: »

why rely so heavily on shards for your stam back? Use potions tanks and dps. Restore stam in not Templar's job, it's your build flaw if you have resources regen issues.

vAA last boss? Because that's how it is for us, simple mortals, who, you know... Are not maxed-out and still farm golden jewellry.

8 DDs isn't enough for last phase. So we're making it by 9 DD + Tank + 2 Healers. One tank. Who holds all the axes. Breaking news - you run out of stamina. One of our healers is permamently glued to the tank, feeding him shards, heals, whatever. If tank loses axes... Bye. As you must be aware. Other healer heals raid.

Vet HM CoS. Erm... Tank needs shards. Vet Ophidia, Lamia, off-tank holds the adds. He needs shards.

So what? Only maxed-out people must be allowed in trials?

akl77 wrote: »

dont need major mending anyway, use your cp and gear set ups, also we Templars aren't just playing healer roles, so don't class us with major mending powerful heals.

lolwut? Pretty much any execute phase? When people would be dropping like flies if not for Major Mending? And people still die. Healing through the same last phase of last vAA boss? Erm... 1st vMoL boss, shield phases? vHA Warrior? Like... what?

I have a feeling that in vTrials you only DPS...

Ummm I think the point is that now a Nightblade healer also has Shard, but slightly less effective.

Goshua · April 2017

akl77 wrote: »

Goshua wrote: »

So we'll have minor and major mending if we use a resto staff, no complaints there. If you're healing it makes sense.

Personally, burst healing aside, what have we left not best covered by other classes.

If you want to dps; best to play a sorc , if you want to tank; jack up your wardens health, still do dps.

Other things Templar's had; major resolve, ward and defile (warden even gets an AOE defile) all pinched by Wardens.

That's fine, look at Templars skills, if you want to gut them give them something back that's unique that's not a situational skill like eclipse, rework dark flare, change rune so its not over written by a aoe buff everytime a warden walks in the room.

Sounds like I'm bemoaning Wardens, I'm not, good luck to them, but if its not obvious that they ripped Templars a new one to make them more appealing then I'm not sure what else to say.

Jabs and beam still works wonders, especially the mag jabs that actually heals self sustain that don't even need a healer.

very expensive spammable, poor damage and a useless heal (less major mending now) unless clearing pve trash and a lame execute.

I still need some convincing my friend

Tasear · April 2017

Dantaria wrote: »

I know, why there is no answers. Your post is indeed ignorant. Though the question for you shouldn't be "do you play templar?". The question for you should be "do you do endgame content?". Because even though you say you do... I have my doubts. Or maybe... Maybe you did. With a top-notch group.

akl77 wrote: »

why rely so heavily on shards for your stam back? Use potions tanks and dps. Restore stam in not Templar's job, it's your build flaw if you have resources regen issues.

vAA last boss? Because that's how it is for us, simple mortals, who, you know... Are not maxed-out and still farm golden jewellry.

8 DDs isn't enough for last phase. So we're making it by 9 DD + Tank + 2 Healers. One tank. Who holds all the axes. Breaking news - you run out of stamina. One of our healers is permamently glued to the tank, feeding him shards, heals, whatever. If tank loses axes... Bye. As you must be aware. Other healer heals raid.

Vet HM CoS. Erm... Tank needs shards. Vet Ophidia, Lamia, off-tank holds the adds. He needs shards.

So what? Only maxed-out people must be allowed in trials?

akl77 wrote: »

dont need major mending anyway, use your cp and gear set ups, also we Templars aren't just playing healer roles, so don't class us with major mending powerful heals.

lolwut? Pretty much any execute phase? When people would be dropping like flies if not for Major Mending? And people still die. Healing through the same last phase of last vAA boss? Erm... 1st vMoL boss, shield phases? vHA Warrior? Like... what?

I have a feeling that in vTrials you only DPS...

I did a vAA with a sorc tank, a NB healer, sorc healer... Where is your major mending there?

Vcos hm I don't even need purge for most part more shards. It's not that hard. Shield tanks are awesome

http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/alanarres-invincible-dk-shieldtank/

akl77 · April 2017

Dantaria wrote: »

I know, why there is no answers. Your post is indeed ignorant. Though the question for you shouldn't be "do you play templar?". The question for you should be "do you do endgame content?". Because even though you say you do... I have my doubts. Or maybe... Maybe you did. With a top-notch group.

akl77 wrote: »

why rely so heavily on shards for your stam back? Use potions tanks and dps. Restore stam in not Templar's job, it's your build flaw if you have resources regen issues.

vAA last boss? Because that's how it is for us, simple mortals, who, you know... Are not maxed-out and still farm golden jewellry.

8 DDs isn't enough for last phase. So we're making it by 9 DD + Tank + 2 Healers. One tank. Who holds all the axes. Breaking news - you run out of stamina. One of our healers is permamently glued to the tank, feeding him shards, heals, whatever. If tank loses axes... Bye. As you must be aware. Other healer heals raid.

Vet HM CoS. Erm... Tank needs shards. Vet Ophidia, Lamia, off-tank holds the adds. He needs shards.

So what? Only maxed-out people must be allowed in trials?

akl77 wrote: »

dont need major mending anyway, use your cp and gear set ups, also we Templars aren't just playing healer roles, so don't class us with major mending powerful heals.

lolwut? Pretty much any execute phase? When people would be dropping like flies if not for Major Mending? And people still die. Healing through the same last phase of last vAA boss? Erm... 1st vMoL boss, shield phases? vHA Warrior? Like... what?

I have a feeling that in vTrials you only DPS...

I'm healer mostly, and I've healed vet trials successfully all with pug groups, not elite trial groups or guild.
I have not had a chance to dps in vet trials yet, only normal trials.
I still don't agree people should be heavily relying on shards, no shards sorry I'd rather focus that 1 sec on damaging or healing a mate. If still need stam or mag regen shards or orbs still serves. It's still not worth the drama of burial for a Templar does it?

Dantaria · April 2017

akl77 wrote: »

I still don't agree people should be heavily relying on shards, no shards sorry I'd rather focus that 1 sec on damaging or healing a mate.

You... You'd better damage. Than give resources. As a healer. In vet trial.

Okay. Okay. vMoL with you is very fun. I think. As is vet Warrior. Got it

akl77 · April 2017

Dantaria wrote: »

akl77 wrote: »

I still don't agree people should be heavily relying on shards, no shards sorry I'd rather focus that 1 sec on damaging or healing a mate.

You... You'd better damage. Than give resources. As a healer. In vet trial.

Okay. Okay. vMoL with you is very fun. I think. As is vet Warrior. Got it

No, in vet trials I purely heal and give resources.
In vet dungeons I do some damages too, cos nothing to heal.

hmsdragonfly · April 2017

Goshua wrote: »

akl77 wrote: »

Goshua wrote: »

So we'll have minor and major mending if we use a resto staff, no complaints there. If you're healing it makes sense.

Personally, burst healing aside, what have we left not best covered by other classes.

If you want to dps; best to play a sorc , if you want to tank; jack up your wardens health, still do dps.

Other things Templar's had; major resolve, ward and defile (warden even gets an AOE defile) all pinched by Wardens.

That's fine, look at Templars skills, if you want to gut them give them something back that's unique that's not a situational skill like eclipse, rework dark flare, change rune so its not over written by a aoe buff everytime a warden walks in the room.

Sounds like I'm bemoaning Wardens, I'm not, good luck to them, but if its not obvious that they ripped Templars a new one to make them more appealing then I'm not sure what else to say.

Jabs and beam still works wonders, especially the mag jabs that actually heals self sustain that don't even need a healer.

very expensive spammable, poor damage and a useless heal (less major mending now) unless clearing pve trash and a lame execute.

I still need some convincing my friend

Dude I don't think anyone need to convince you to do anything. Just sharpen your skills and Nightblade healers aren't going to take your job.

Duiwel · April 2017

OP I have 4 Templars

2 stam & 2 magicka

1 DPS of each attribute, 1 tank (Stam) and 1 healer (Mag) and I can tell you you're wrong on most of the points.

As for your point on "strategic positioning"

Here is my reply to the conal "visible heal" comment you made:

There is a red circle on you and you have to dodge roll or a bunch of people in your group have to, one of them get hit and is critically low on hp, you cast heal, what's that? Oh no they weren't in front of you and guess what? THEY DIED!

Skinzz · April 2017

Did everyone forget about stamplars? Some of the nerfs affect stamplars a lot. Like what is so special about stamplars now.. cause we have jabs? Lmao....