Thank You for Destroying Diversity

RomansXXI · April 2017

Now that all the other classes are obsolete I can't wait to start logging in to a game where every single character is warden. What happened to diversity? Any class can be anything? That's gone now. Soon will come a time where it is incredibly rare to see another class. I used to be so excited to play and experience the new class while at the same time still enjoy playing with the original classes on my alts. But now all my alts have lost much of their usefulness and I believe no amount of reworking the builds will put them even close to the power of the warden. None of the classes needed "fixing" and all these nerfs are for what exactly? To push people towards p2w.

I've been a part of this community since the very beginning and have tolerated a vast majority of nerfs and buffs and changes, but this I cannot stand for. Please I beg of you, do not let the current changes go live and actually listen to the community for once! Out of all the posts regarding the patch notes I find any person agreeing with them is on the rare side. Almost all the community is enraged, ZOS please listen this time!

Wollust · April 2017

Have you even tried and tested the warden yet or are you just one of the many people here jumping to conclusions?

QuebraRegra · April 2017

shut up and play the meta scrub!

LOL!

JK, they've been killing diversity for a while now... I think a lot went out when softcaps were removed and hybrid builds were no longer viable.

Mettaricana · April 2017

I see alot of diversity coming as players decide more rec or more dmg or a balance.

And warden just looks to be a healer tank so i doubt itll out dps all 4 starting classes

rotaugen454 · April 2017

What are you talking about? The longer you play here di verse it gets...

max_only · April 2017

You can also be a sorcerer so you do have choice.

akl77 · April 2017

Not really, I'll still be playing my fav Templar, the nerfs aren't game breaking, it just changes the direction of playing skills.
It's now requires players to watch their footings, positioning.
I don't enjoy button smashing, but I'm always a fan of dark souls, bloodborn, Nioh style game, where you use your gaming skills.
Battle ground needs that, playing skills instead of button smashings.

Tasear · April 2017

First step of change is chaos. It's not that the end of the world. We will still shine.

Drdeath20 · April 2017

Seriously whats good about a templar now?

Can we just lose that healing skill line for anything i mean anything else. Seriously

Zvorgin · April 2017

It's not like warden has a major sorcery buff, magicka regen buff and cleanse all in 1 skill that has no cost. I don't see them being that rampant.

akl77 · April 2017

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Seriously whats good about a templar now?

Can we just lose that healing skill line for anything i mean anything else. Seriously

Healing shouldn't be a role really, everyone should have some heal of some sort.
Try maelstrom arena, learn to survive solo and beat up mobs with real skills.
Watch your footing and positioning is key, and you won't die as often in group dungeons after you learnt basic skills.
So for future battlegrounds, you probably won't take in a dedicated healer, but a self sustained play style.

Zvorgin · April 2017

akl77 wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Seriously whats good about a templar now?

Can we just lose that healing skill line for anything i mean anything else. Seriously

Healing shouldn't be a role really, everyone should have some heal of some sort.
Try maelstrom arena, learn to survive solo and beat up mobs with real skills.
Watch your footing and positioning is key, and you won't die as often in group dungeons after you learnt basic skills.
So for future battlegrounds, you probably won't take in a dedicated healer, but a self sustained play style.

Grouping should be unnecessary in an MMO.

DaveMoeDee · April 2017

akl77 wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Seriously whats good about a templar now?

Can we just lose that healing skill line for anything i mean anything else. Seriously

Healing shouldn't be a role really, everyone should have some heal of some sort.
Try maelstrom arena, learn to survive solo and beat up mobs with real skills.
Watch your footing and positioning is key, and you won't die as often in group dungeons after you learnt basic skills.
So for future battlegrounds, you probably won't take in a dedicated healer, but a self sustained play style.

Should anything be a role?

If there are group heals, then it should be a role. Otherwise you have multiple people wasting resources healing at the same time.

CardboardedBox · April 2017

To spite the coming nerfs, i'm currently playing as a magicka woodelf templar. Ha! Take that nerfs! I fart in your general direction!

thrillho5000 · April 2017

I'm so glad all the theater kids have their own threads up here in the ESO forums. Keep working on your method acting guys!

Seriously though, can we all stop acting like they won't nerf the Warden class a couple patches from launch?

Drdeath20 · April 2017

akl77 wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Seriously whats good about a templar now?

Can we just lose that healing skill line for anything i mean anything else. Seriously

Healing shouldn't be a role really, everyone should have some heal of some sort.
Try maelstrom arena, learn to survive solo and beat up mobs with real skills.
Watch your footing and positioning is key, and you won't die as often in group dungeons after you learnt basic skills.
So for future battlegrounds, you probably won't take in a dedicated healer, but a self sustained play style.

Then why do we have to choose roles for the activity finder.

Dude im a self sustaining dd magplar

5kspell dmg
19k health
32k magicka- 1900 recovery
9k stamina

Still not as good as a sorc in every field except support

Zvorgin · April 2017

A bunch of jack of all trades characters are going to get rolled in battlegrounds for not having a healer and tank that provide group utility.

Mashille · April 2017

How would you know if Warden is powerful or not?

Unless you're in the Closed beta...

In that case this thread is in the Wrong Forum Section as complaining about Warden being OP in the part of the Forum where people have no clue what Warden can even do is pretty pointless.

SanTii.92 · April 2017

By diversity you mean every healer is a templar and every tank is a dk? ya, nice diversity man.

Zvorgin · April 2017

@Mashille You can read their skills on the website and know they are powerful, doesn't take a rocket scientist. Just read through the list of major buffs they have access to.

max_only · April 2017

SanTii.92 wrote: »

By diversity you mean every healer is a templar and every tank is a dk? ya, nice diversity man.

My tank is a nightblade. I already have lifesteal in 3 or 4 skills on my bar How is it good that they change siphoning to do less resource restore but add unnecessary health restore?

disintegr8 · April 2017

Resistance is futile.... You will be assimilated......

WalksonGraves · April 2017

max_only wrote: »

SanTii.92 wrote: »

By diversity you mean every healer is a templar and every tank is a dk? ya, nice diversity man.

My tank is a nightblade. I already have lifesteal in 3 or 4 skills on my bar How is it good that they change siphoning to do less resource restore but add unnecessary health restore?

Honestly, at no point will I ever use anything but invigorating drain to heal myself.

hmsdragonfly · April 2017

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Seriously whats good about a templar now?

Can we just lose that healing skill line for anything i mean anything else. Seriously

lol, this again. Templar will still be the better class in healing, but they give other classes a chance to now compete with Templar for a healer spot. It's like saying a Sorc loses his identity because a Templar has a chance to take his DD spot in a raid if the Sorc performs poorly.

Just sharpen your skills and Nightblade healers aren't going to take your job. But surely if you are a bad Templar healer, a good Nightblade healer, or sorc healer, will take your job.

hmsdragonfly · April 2017

RomansXXI wrote: »

Now that all the other classes are obsolete I can't wait to start logging in to a game where every single character is warden. What happened to diversity? Any class can be anything? That's gone now. Soon will come a time where it is incredibly rare to see another class. I used to be so excited to play and experience the new class while at the same time still enjoy playing with the original classes on my alts. But now all my alts have lost much of their usefulness and I believe no amount of reworking the builds will put them even close to the power of the warden. None of the classes needed "fixing" and all these nerfs are for what exactly? To push people towards p2w.

I've been a part of this community since the very beginning and have tolerated a vast majority of nerfs and buffs and changes, but this I cannot stand for. Please I beg of you, do not let the current changes go live and actually listen to the community for once! Out of all the posts regarding the patch notes I find any person agreeing with them is on the rare side. Almost all the community is enraged, ZOS please listen this time!

Yup so much diversity, no other class currently has a chance to even compete with Templar for a healer spot in a raid.

Now, they will be able to, like how a Templar currently can compete with a Sorc for a DD spot. So sharpen your skills if you don't want some Nightblade healers to take your job.