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Kalante
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"This will be a buff if you are below 15k" No this will be a nerf, thats all you had to say. What kind of tactic is this? its the first time ive seen a developer do this. If your intention was to make people less angry you actually managed quiet the opposite. Its really sad that every patch notes there are more negatives than positives. Always.
Edited by Kalante on April 19, 2017 8:08PM
  • Tryxus
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    Magicka builds? :p
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  • Kalante
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    Magicka builds? :p

    If people are actually running redguards on magicka characters... i dont know what else to say other than just why.
  • Kiralyn2000
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    Kalante wrote: »
    Tryxus wrote: »
    Magicka builds? :p

    If people are actually running redguards on magicka characters... i dont know what else to say other than just why.

    Because they like Redguards (or whatever race) and don't solely build their characters from a min-max standpoint?
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    Kiralyn2000 wrote: »
    Kalante wrote: »
    Tryxus wrote: »
    Magicka builds? :p

    If people are actually running redguards on magicka characters... i dont know what else to say other than just why.

    Because they like Redguards (or whatever race) and don't solely build their characters from a min-max standpoint?

    All 2 of those people
  • Shad0wfire99
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    Magicka builds? :p

    You might actually have a hard time on a Redguard mag build getting less stam than that.


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  • McI
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    I think my dark elf mag DK has about 14k...
  • KingJ
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    Magicka builds? :p
    @Tryxus My old Redguard magic sorc with tri food had 16k stamina so even then I wouldn't get anything from this change.
  • olsborg
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    Magicka builds have around 15k stamina on a redguard^^

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  • Kodrac
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    aliyavana wrote: »
    Kiralyn2000 wrote: »
    Kalante wrote: »
    Tryxus wrote: »
    Magicka builds? :p

    If people are actually running redguards on magicka characters... i dont know what else to say other than just why.

    Because they like Redguards (or whatever race) and don't solely build their characters from a min-max standpoint?

    All 2 of those people

    On the forums.
  • flguy147ub17_ESO
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    My level 3 Mule doesnt have 15k stamina.
  • vyndral13preub18_ESO
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    I wish they had put after the sustain nerfs, 'If you only heavy attack or light attack spam this is a buff'
  • KochDerDamonen
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    aliyavana wrote: »
    Kiralyn2000 wrote: »
    Kalante wrote: »
    Tryxus wrote: »
    Magicka builds? :p

    If people are actually running redguards on magicka characters... i dont know what else to say other than just why.

    Because they like Redguards (or whatever race) and don't solely build their characters from a min-max standpoint?

    All 2 of those people

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  • Kalante
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    aliyavana wrote: »
    Kiralyn2000 wrote: »
    Kalante wrote: »
    Tryxus wrote: »
    Magicka builds? :p

    If people are actually running redguards on magicka characters... i dont know what else to say other than just why.

    Because they like Redguards (or whatever race) and don't solely build their characters from a min-max standpoint?

    All 2 of those people

    From a new player standpoint i can see why but i don't think any serious player would ever mix a race that does not synergies with their class. If there truly are people that do this then they must be a really small minority because i haven't seen any redguard magicka sorcs, templars, dk's, or nb's. Except some nord stam nb's because of the 6% damage reduction.
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    KochDerDamonen wrote: »
    aliyavana wrote: »
    Kiralyn2000 wrote: »
    Kalante wrote: »
    Tryxus wrote: »
    Magicka builds? :p

    If people are actually running redguards on magicka characters... i dont know what else to say other than just why.

    Because they like Redguards (or whatever race) and don't solely build their characters from a min-max standpoint?

    All 2 of those people

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  • Draqone
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    I CONFESS!!!

    I have a magDK Redguard.

    Well, ok. He is only a magDK for leveling but he still raises some eyebrows in guild!
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  • usmcjdking
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    The nerf is fine.

    It keeps redguard a fair amount ahead of Bosmer, albeit not by as wide of a margin.
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    Kiralyn2000 wrote: »
    Kalante wrote: »
    Tryxus wrote: »
    Magicka builds? :p

    If people are actually running redguards on magicka characters... i dont know what else to say other than just why.

    Because they like Redguards (or whatever race) and don't solely build their characters from a min-max standpoint?

    Yes lets buff roleplayers!
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    I do melee magika damage on my redguard Templar. This will be great.
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    flguy147ub17_ESO wrote: »
    My level 3 Mule doesnt have 15k stamina.

    Came in to say the same thing... Made him over a year ago and he hasn't so much as stepped out of the bank since he first walked in.

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    aliyavana wrote: »
    Kiralyn2000 wrote: »
    Kalante wrote: »
    Tryxus wrote: »
    Magicka builds? :p

    If people are actually running redguards on magicka characters... i dont know what else to say other than just why.

    Because they like Redguards (or whatever race) and don't solely build their characters from a min-max standpoint?

    All 2 of those people

    I have a Khajiit MagPlar and MagSorc. I like Khajiit. Your opinion is unsound.
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  • Didgerion
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    Kalante wrote: »
    Who has less than 15k stam on a redguard?


    Congratulation all Redguards you've just become a magica class now. You've got a really strong buff!

    rollback the lightning patch please!
    Edited by Didgerion on April 19, 2017 8:45PM
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    Kiralyn2000 wrote: »
    Kalante wrote: »
    Tryxus wrote: »
    Magicka builds? :p

    If people are actually running redguards on magicka characters... i dont know what else to say other than just why.

    Because they like Redguards (or whatever race) and don't solely build their characters from a min-max standpoint?

    And you think that sort of ppl care about that change?
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  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    usmcjdking wrote: »
    The nerf is fine.

    It keeps redguard a fair amount ahead of Bosmer, albeit not by as wide of a margin.

    Honestly if they can't balance the passive, why don't they just give Redguards a regeneration bonus to stamina and call it good? In fact from a point of theme it would make sense to give them Stamina Regeneration + Poison resist in a passive, and it would be more truer to the history of the TES series.
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    US/AD - Barkan al-Sheharesh - Vet Redguard Dragon Knight | US/AD - Aelus Vortavoriil - Vet Altmer Templar
    US/AD - Shirari Qa'Dar - Vet Khajiit Nightblade | US/AD - Ndvari Mzunchvolenthumz - Vet Bosmer Nightblade
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  • Twohothardware
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    You guys keep complaining about this Redguard nerf but how would you instead like for the passive to be Imperial's 10% chance to restore 6% of your max health? If anyone has a reason to complain about their race it is Imperial.
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    It helps people who don't use food!
  • Zvorgin
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    The language in the Dev comments is insulting. It's a nerf.
  • Runschei
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    Twohothardware wrote: »
    You guys keep complaining about this Redguard nerf but how would you instead like for the passive to be Imperial's 10% chance to restore 6% of your max health? If anyone has a reason to complain about their race it is Imperial.

    What about argonian swimspeed?
  • GrigorijMalahevich
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    If you have a Redguard physical melee build with less that 15k stamina - congratulations!

    On a serious note, ZOS just helped us to do the Maths on this one, you basically going to restore around 500 stamina which is more than 50% nerf for your standard stambuild.
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    ArchMikem wrote: »

    I have a Khajiit MagPlar and MagSorc. I like Khajiit. Your opinion is unsound.

    His opinion might be unsound, but then again, I guess he wasnt thinking about idiots when making his comment.

    Edited by SquareSausage on April 19, 2017 9:12PM
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    dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »
    usmcjdking wrote: »
    The nerf is fine.

    It keeps redguard a fair amount ahead of Bosmer, albeit not by as wide of a margin.

    Honestly if they can't balance the passive, why don't they just give Redguards a regeneration bonus to stamina and call it good? In fact from a point of theme it would make sense to give them Stamina Regeneration + Poison resist in a passive, and it would be more truer to the history of the TES series.

    The redguard doing slightly better on melee is not a problem. Bosmer does better at range with regen. Not a bad trades off. Yes, there are bow builds that can do well.
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