I told my brother to roll a redguard stamplar when he started

WalksonGraves · April 2017

Now I have to look him in the face and tell him he'll never be viable and we will never be able to play together on real content. Huge waste of time grinding for nothing and he's only 50 cp so he has a grind either way and since he works in construction he doesn't have a teenager's summer worth of hours to dump on this game.

Kodrac · April 2017

Cool story, bro.

Turelus · April 2017

Well it looks like you taught him an important life lesson. Nothing good lasts forever.

Now he'll get some life experience in dealing with unwanted changes and learn if he works hard at it he can come out better and stronger for not running from his problems.

Or he could quit and in that case I'll take his stuff.

Wollust · April 2017

Not like he'll ever get close to "real" content (that requires meta classes and builds) with 50 cp

Pallio · April 2017

It was good advise, until now, nobody would have predicted this rediculous patch we have now.

WalksonGraves · April 2017

Wollust wrote: »

Not like he'll ever get close to "real" content (that requires meta classes and builds) with 50 cp

Yeah because you rolled your first char and had 600 cp leaving cold harbor. What part him being in the process of leveling did you not understand?

IronCrystal · April 2017

He'll still be able to do pretty much any content in the game except vet trials, and even be able to run casual vet trials.

It's not utter garbage it's just not BiS.

Any stam toon hasn't been BiS for months now anyways.

Beesting · April 2017

I think every contribution / lifestory is valuable. At least more valuable then the "nerf sorcs" or "nerf lich" threads.

To the op, if you look in the archives you will find posts from as far back as may 2014 of people having their leveled toon murdered by changes to the class. It is the pain that comes with playing an mmo.

WalksonGraves · April 2017

I figured an underpowered class would be safe from nerf hammer but it seems zenimax endgame for everything is a house decoration simulator. Just look at how they turned fallout 4 into minecraft with bad voice acting.

Didgerion · April 2017

WalksonGraves wrote: »

Now I have to look him in the face and tell him he'll never be viable and we will never be able to play together on real content. Huge waste of time grinding for nothing and he's only 50 cp so he has a grind either way and since he works in construction he doesn't have a teenager's summer worth of hours to dump on this game.

Construction huh, no time right...guess what there is a race-change option - no no no no no this game is not pay to win!! Just few perks here and there.

ThePaleItalian · April 2017

Maybe when you all quit the lag will be fixed in Cyrodill

Wollust · April 2017

WalksonGraves wrote: »

Wollust wrote: »

Not like he'll ever get close to "real" content (that requires meta classes and builds) with 50 cp

Yeah because you rolled your first char and had 600 cp leaving cold harbor. What part him being in the process of leveling did you not understand?

So what does it matter then? He'll still be able to go through almost any content on his stamplar. Once he reaches a point (probably in the far future if he doesn't have the time to be grinding 600 CP) where a stamplar just doesn't cut it anymore (which is pretty much only vMoL and maybe the other trials HM): Level a new character. Takes about 3 hours with all the exp buffs and skyreach. I don't see why it's such a big deal. Changes happen, you just gotta adapt. That's how it works in MMOs.

WalksonGraves · April 2017

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

Maybe when you all quit the lag will be fixed in Cyrodill

1. Not quitting
2. Don't pvp
3. Get better internet

Vipstaakki · April 2017

What did we learn from this kids? Do not listen to streamers. First and foremost think for yourself.

Danksta · April 2017

Wollust wrote: »

WalksonGraves wrote: »

Wollust wrote: »

Not like he'll ever get close to "real" content (that requires meta classes and builds) with 50 cp

Yeah because you rolled your first char and had 600 cp leaving cold harbor. What part him being in the process of leveling did you not understand?

So what does it matter then? He'll still be able to go through almost any content on his stamplar. Once he reaches a point (probably in the far future if he doesn't have the time to be grinding 600 CP) where a stamplar just doesn't cut it anymore (which is pretty much only vMoL and maybe the other trials HM): Level a new character. Takes about 3 hours with all the exp buffs and skyreach. I don't see why it's such a big deal. Changes happen, you just gotta adapt. That's how it works in MMOs.

For all we know when he gets to CP600 Stamplar might be the OP class.

Shroom · April 2017

If he doesn't have much time, he really shouldn't care lol, unless he takes this game serious and wants to be on top.

riberion · April 2017

Um, race change?? It's hardly the end of the world or a situation where he needs to roll a whole new character.

flguy147ub17_ESO · April 2017

Redguard change means more money for ZOS in crown store purchases for Race Change. Pretty Clever marketing strategy there.

Saturnana · April 2017

The only change is ZOS killing the 'unkillable' builds, taking away infinite resource pools so that playing against other players may become fun and challenging again. I'm actually looking forward to the changes, may even get me into playing PvP. The meta-only vibe in Cyrodil was kinda keeping me from ever going there.

Sharee · April 2017

That's what you get for jumping on the FOTM train.

Instead pick whatever class/spec you like, and stick with it. Once you become good enough to not rely on crutches, you will be able to make it work in any environment ZOS dumps on your head in the future. Then everyone will look at your performance and be like "whoa, i thought this class/spec was supposed to be gimped?!"

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QUEZ420 · April 2017

Race change or roll another toon n stop complaining done deal ez pezy.

WalksonGraves · April 2017

I told him to pick red guard stamplar based on it seeming like a good combo, I'm totally ignorant of whatever the pvp meta builds are. So there was no "band wagon jumping" this was almost a year ago.

ChildOfLight · April 2017

Can't really understand if the problem here is the fact he is a stamPlar or the fact he is a redguard.

In the second case, you should not really whine. Redguard race was really unbalanced and the incoming changes just lower it down to the other races level.

Balance = variability

Would you like to play a game where every single Stamina-based character is a redguard?

WalksonGraves · April 2017

ChildOfLight wrote: »

Can't really understand if the problem here is the fact he is a stamPlar or the fact he is a redguard.

In the second case, you should not really whine. Redguard race was really unbalanced and the incoming changes just lower it down to the other races level.

Balance = variability

Would you like to play a game where every single Stamina-based character is a redguard?

Problem is both are getting nerfed into the ground when stamplars aren't exactly top of the charts to begin with.

ThePaleItalian · April 2017

WalksonGraves wrote: »

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

Maybe when you all quit the lag will be fixed in Cyrodill

1. Not quitting
2. Don't pvp
3. Get better internet

1. It was humor and over your head
2. Please see above
3. Please see above above

Saturnana · April 2017

WalksonGraves wrote: »

I told him to pick red guard stamplar based on it seeming like a good combo, I'm totally ignorant of whatever the pvp meta builds are. So there was no "band wagon jumping" this was almost a year ago.

If you're not worried about the meta, then why are you worried about the specifics of the patch notes? Just enjoy the characters you rolled.

Redguard Stamplar will still be a nice combination, just not as godlike as it is now.

magictucktuck · April 2017

umm level 50 takes like 3 days for me. and i work full time and have a 20 month old son full time and a single father.. that's with no exp buffs. i think he can find the time. and then he will be right at 50cp again

Daemons_Bane · April 2017

You're a despicable person.. There, you happy now?

Browiseth · April 2017

what a first world problem, even by first world standards

Sheezabeast · April 2017

Buy your brother enough crowns to race change, if you're gonna have a defeated attitude about it. Not everyone can adapt to changes i guess. Good lesson to teach your brother.