Three Years and One Tamriel

GeraintMawr · April 2017

Thanks for the three year badge! It's since Arena actually, but ESO three years. I have to be honest and say if it was not for the promise of Morrowind then it would have been 'Goodbye'. I think One Tamriel was a great idea, but have some reservations (see below).

Way back when Morrowind first came out the shock was incredible. I don't just mean the graphics and game play, but the fact that we only had Vvardenfell. Then came the two expansions and we got as far as Deshaan and Soltsheim. So to look forward to almost everybody on one server and being able to (almost) seamlessly travel the far corners of Tamriel is good.

It is not because of Morrowind specifically that I am tempted to stay. Any large chunk of Tamriel would have done! I wonder are you going to port Mehrunes Dagon next year and his tiny plane of Oblivion?

The trouble with One Tamriel is that we are now falling over each other. Delves no longer provide the extended struggle as somebody has sorted 'em all out before you get there. Personally I'd like to have a simple rule implemented. If it is a delve or dungeon, the other side of the door is group/solo, just like the pledges. Then we could run the delve for fun on our own or with friends. This would not stop people grinding because it would guarantee a full set of zombies or whatever to kill on reentry. Up top, in wide wide world of Tamriel then yes free for all and 'you pinched my flower' or 'have that you varlot! Duel me'.

ESO is an MMO to state the obvious, but why does it have to be a farm like all the others! With a bit of spit and polish the PVE areas could be a great sandpit to enjoy rp and pvp as well in the appropriate place. The two can over lap as Morrowind seems to offer.

So I look forward to getting a four year Badge, but hope that I will still be looking forward confidently to seeing all the far corners of Tamriel. Especially the places like Summerset Isle and the rest of the Back Marsh! That is if you guys tighten up on what you let loose in One Tamriel.

stevepdodson_ESO888 · April 2017

Mr. G.

nuff said

Elsonso · April 2017

GeraintMawr wrote: »

The trouble with One Tamriel is that we are now falling over each other. Delves no longer provide the extended struggle as somebody has sorted 'em all out before you get there. Personally I'd like to have a simple rule implemented. If it is a delve or dungeon, the other side of the door is group/solo, just like the pledges. Then we could run the delve for fun on our own or with friends. This would not stop people grinding because it would guarantee a full set of zombies or whatever to kill on reentry.

For me, one of the biggest aspects of the game is being in the world with other players that I am not grouped with. However, I will agree that the number of players that they allow in any given "instance" of the delve should be smaller and more focused according to why I am in there. This is mainly so that the people in there are aligned with me in such a way that we can group informally to complete the same tasks. That is the strong point about ESO that deserves to be preserved.

On a side note, delve and dungeon population is why they need to bump up the point where mob XP starts to fall off by one (1) player.

I definitely don't want the solo game that TES III Morrowind (et al) provide to be implemented in ESO. If I want to be all by myself in the game, I will go play Skyrim. This is where "lonely" is the main design point and I am the only hero in the world. A spend a ton of time installing and maintaining mods in those games so that I am not alone, which is crazy since all I have to do is play ESO to get that. So, I do.

Browiseth · April 2017

morrowind is a bad and outdated game

i never really know what to say in these kinds of threads

GeraintMawr · April 2017

Lord Richter, I. Am not advocating a lonely environment like Skyrim. Just the chance to enjoy dungeons and delves. I recently kicked off one of my mules to level it. In more than one dungeon, I could access skyshard collection far far easily than the days before One Tamriel. Not one npc to stop me, no monsters, nothing and I got out of the place with no hassle. Plenty of dead bodies and people queuing to farm the boss, though! So you call that gaming, I guess?

I want all of us to enjoy this game. For me it is not gaming if I can run through dungeon after dungeon with no opposition. That is lonely. As for random groups they could easily form on the outside of the dungeon. Some of the pledges I can solo on one character and it is joy to know that there will be opposition. Yes it is Skyrim revisited, but I only do that when I need to >>> farm <<<< the drops. When levelling a character with no opposition I nee chance to get xp without grinding, which is another lonely game. Right ow I think it encourages the same situation to persist and become extreeem, if folk just elbow each other out of the way. I don't want them made group only, but the choice to run the dungeon, with guaranteed opposition, with the guarantee that they stay dead and a chance to attack the boss myself OR do all that with a gang of friends OR with some randoms I picked up on the way in. Right now every body is too much in a rush from what I have seen to even answer a request to group.

Elsonso · April 2017

GeraintMawr wrote: »

Lord Richter, I. Am not advocating a lonely environment like Skyrim. Just the chance to enjoy dungeons and delves. I recently kicked off one of my mules to level it. In more than one dungeon, I could access skyshard collection far far easily than the days before One Tamriel. Not one npc to stop me, no monsters, nothing and I got out of the place with no hassle. Plenty of dead bodies and people queuing to farm the boss, though! So you call that gaming, I guess?

"I will agree that the number of players that they allow in any given "instance" of the delve should be smaller and more focused according to why I am in there."

GeraintMawr · April 2017

And I admire your zero crown crates status. Let's agree on what you said then. I just hope this is not an online store.

Majeure · April 2017

I completely agree, delves and even public dungeons should be instanced to your GROUP.

Not only that, but the difficulty is such a joke, combined with all these players running in circles farming anything and everything, while nothing scales to the amount of players fighting it.. not that there would be a chance to, with everything dying instantly from just one player character.

It doesn't have to be Dark Souls either, just as long as the NPCs don't fall over dead when they see you. Overland/delve content is absolute trash as it is right now, and then you have these farmers on top, everywhere you go. There is no enjoyable gameplay experience to be had, and it further bubbles down to doing quests, making the questing experience incredibly boring.

GeraintMawr · April 2017

Majeure said:
Overland/delve content is absolute trash as it is right now, and then you have these farmers on top, everywhere you go.

My quote from your post is added to point at overland content.

There is room for the farmers and grinders overland, although I hate the streams of players swarming out of a way shrine, just as I hear a Dark Anchor forming! Not to mention the vultures gathering around a world boss. What you say though proves there are others out there, ZOS, who find this a disturbing turn of events.

Lordrichter said:
I definitely don't want the solo game that TES III Morrowind (et al) provide to be implemented in ESO. If I want to be all by myself in the game, I will go play Skyrim. This is where "lonely" is the main design point and I am the only hero in the world. A spend a ton of time installing and maintaining mods in those games so that I am not alone, which is crazy since all I have to do is play ESO to get that. So, I do.

Lordrichter was talking about the' lonely games' and he is right. Arena, Daggerfall, Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim had their place. Blimey, I'm revisiting TES III Morrowind in readiness for June rather than lay ESO now!

The Trials and Pledges do an amazing job of getting us to group up and I think this enhances the Elder Scrolls series by offering fans like me a chance to wander all of Tamriel, hopefully this decade.

What I am advocating is the return of the joy of running a cave or Ayelid ruin and so on, where we find a similar challenge playing this game. Then leave the grinding areas for those who prefer to 'get levelled quick'. That way all players have an interest in supporting ESO. Add to that Cyrodill and the new pvp areas of the Morrowind chapter and this would be a truly awesome product. Right now pve is grim and an obvious gap in the content, which the Morrowind chapter may fill, I hope.

However, the way I feel my game going - and I don't think I am alone - is wondering whether I should empty the craft bag (which the 3 year holiday event really helped) and cancel the subscription, then come back when the content improves. All that does is hike up the crown store content and risk turning this game into a shop, not the incredible immersive experience Elder Scrolls always has been and promises to be in this ground breaking MMO called Elder Scrolls Online.