Is Warden going to replace DK?

Vapirko · April 2017

The high cost of DK abilities is going to take another hit when they nerf the cp tree. Warden on the other hand seems well equipped to deal with the cp changes. To me the warden is starting to feel like a similar class to DK being somewhat tanky with good damage but not over the top. But they're adding good ranged attacks which is something that would be awesome to see for a DK. In terms of resource cost it seems like mag warden will make mag DK obsolete, and in terms of stam the warden will be superior to DK because of its variation in attacks. And it seems that it will have better heals than both. Thoughts? Am I just reading this wrong? I have a feeling that after Morrowind we're going to see a drop in DKs especially in Cyrodill.

Lynx7386 · April 2017

I dont think so. The warden wont have the same defense potential or resource management a DK has, even making up for CP changes. DK's primary resource management comes from ultimates, not from champion points. The warden will have an easier way to permablock with betty/bull netch restoring resources while blocking, but you'll have to maximize your block cost reduction for that to work - sturdy on every piece, full block cost reduction CP, shieldplay enchants, and skill passives.

I also dont think the warden will come anywhere close to other classes in regards to damage potential, at least not through class skills alone. The warden is going to be very reliant on weapon abilities over class abilities.

The warden's primary strength is going to be group support. It will be a good healer or tank in 4 man dungeons, and an excellent offtank/secondary healer in trials, complementing the other classes, but I dont see too many wardens being primary tanks or healers for trial groups. There may be some potential for magicka wardens as DPS, but I dont think they'll come anywhere close to sorcs or magdk's for damage output.

Stamden · April 2017

DK's will still make the best tanks in PvE.

Other then that DK's are a dying breed. It was bad before homestead, but then sets like Trainee and Desert Rose got gutted. Standard of Might got nerfed again. Reflective Scales can't even block force pulse anymore, making this ability even more useless. Their ability costs are way too high and with the removal of Magician CP the class is going to be borderline unplayable. This class just gets worse and worse every patch.

So yes, DK's are done for, but it has nothing to do with Wardens. It has to do with neglect from the developers.

Tremors · April 2017

Neighbor wrote: »

DK's will still make the best tanks in PvE.

Other then that DK's are a dying breed. It was bad before homestead, but then sets like Trainee and Desert Rose got gutted. Standard of Might got nerfed again. Reflective Scales can't even block force pulse anymore, making this ability even more useless. Their ability costs are way too high and with the removal of Magician CP the class is going to be borderline unplayable. This class just gets worse and worse every patch.

So yes, DK's are done for, but it has nothing to do with Wardens. It has to do with neglect from the developers.

Wow literally an insane class rn and people keep complaining.

Tasear · April 2017

8/10 tanks are still dk

Just people realized eso lives up to the promise you can play any class with any role.

Nightblade tanks are best offensive tanks with some healing support

Templar - Best supportive tanks or heal tanks, but poor crowd control

Sorrecer - Best at controlling nearby aggro (talons suck), good frost tanks, good reource magement

Dk tanks - easy to use and ....got chains plus resource management, ingenous shield and weapons.

Wardens - make best off tanks, maybe frost tanks too.

Durham · April 2017

Might want to wait till after the next patch folks