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strength of the automaton
Lynx7386
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Any opinions on this set then? Adds 400 weapon damage to physical abilities? Darkshade is the daily pledge so it should be fairly easy to farm up a set.
For a stamsorc, everything seems to be physical damage: hurricane, caltrops, endless hail, snipe, flurry, twin slashes, blade cloak, whirlwind, etc.
For a stamsorc, everything seems to be physical damage: hurricane, caltrops, endless hail, snipe, flurry, twin slashes, blade cloak, whirlwind, etc.
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SodanTok✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I have seen many people claim Major Brutality does not affect it and nobody (yet) proving it does.
Also (obviously) it does not affect heals. If Im making right assumptions, hunding rage is worth 360WD with major brutality, to every damage and heals.
Edited by SodanTok on April 6, 2017 9:34PM3 -
Lynx7386✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Hm... good point. Still though, I'd need a set that gives 334 weapon damage to match what automaton gives with major brutality applying.PS4 / NA
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✭✭psychotic13 wrote: »
^ Automaton sucks. No heals, not more damage than Hundings and not even to all your abilities.@ Izaki #PCEU
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magictucktuck✭✭✭✭✭for PVE it sucks, but for PVP you get health stam and weapon dmg, then the phys dmg. Its good, but not for any serious PVE only PVP1 -
SodanTok✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Hm... good point. Still though, I'd need a set that gives 334 weapon damage to match what automaton gives with major brutality applying.
As psychotic said... hunding is simply very close to that with 300 while also boosting your heals and nonphysical damage (like poison injection)
For totally pure damage there is always agi + maelstorm weapon (thats ~360 WD for 4 items I think). But in that case the secondary bonuses of automaton may be cool enough to make it better (at least in PVP)0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Think I'm going to run ravager and hunding's on my stamsorc then. Got 5pc ravager with gloves, boots, and jewelry for like 10k tonightPS4 / NA
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✭✭✭✭✭Double postEdited by Lynx7386 on April 7, 2017 12:47AMPS4 / NA
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✭✭✭✭✭Triple post, stupid phone >. <Edited by Lynx7386 on April 7, 2017 12:47AMPS4 / NA
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✭✭I wanted to use both Onslaught and Snipe one shot (two snipe) PVP builds and it had to be a dropped set because I use clever alchemist. Strenght of the automaton was the best option. I don't have DLC I can't get a maelstrom weapon..
Typically the Onslaught uses sword singers and Snipe uses Marksman and Hawk-eye.Edited by Narvuntien on April 7, 2017 1:57AM0 -
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✭✭✭if your goal is damage - automaton drops compared to other pure damage sets like hundings etc because one of its bonuses is to health.
max stam, WD they are fine but you can get all four of your set bonus into crits, stam, wd on other sets so... auto falls a bit short.
But if you are a build where you want the health for some reason, go for it. if you were going to have some other piece be healthy and now you can use robust cuz of this health - no prob.
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Draqone✭✭✭✭It's decent. Not good, but very decent, probably within 5% of the BiS gear as long as you rely on phys dmg abilities in your rotation.
it is affected by major brutality, i saw pretty convincing math somewhere.
Also, it's Dwemer which IMHO is one of the best looking sets.ESO Balance:
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✭✭It's decent. Not good, but very decent, probably within 5% of the BiS gear as long as you rely on phys dmg abilities in your rotation.
it is affected by major brutality, i saw pretty convincing math somewhere.
Also, it's Dwemer which IMHO is one of the best looking sets.
Please do share that convincing math.
Not that I dont believe you, but I was looking for some math several times in a past and couldnt find any.
//EDIT: I made some my own calculations from some thread that had heavy attack damage of hunding vs automaton and the increase from automaton was nowhere near close what it should be if it was affected by brutality. Unless my math was wrong or automaton does not affect heavy attacks.Edited by SodanTok on April 7, 2017 2:41PM2 -
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✭✭It's decent. Not good, but very decent, probably within 5% of the BiS gear as long as you rely on phys dmg abilities in your rotation.
it is affected by major brutality, i saw pretty convincing math somewhere.
Also, it's Dwemer which IMHO is one of the best looking sets.
Its not just like Sun isn't affected by Sorcery... But do share that convincing math please@ Izaki #PCEU
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TheStealthDude✭✭✭✭There is a thread a couple pages back on the Combat sub forum which compares different stamina damage sets. Automaton performed surprisingly well.0 -
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✭✭✭✭One of the most useful sets in the game actually. Dwemer frame is hard to come by
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✭✭✭✭✭I ran in it for a while in pvp, ok not great there are better damage sets not worth farming. In pve it kinda sucks.Edited by Vapirko on April 7, 2017 6:14PM0 -
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✭sodantokb16_ESO wrote: »I have seen many people claim Major Brutality does not affect it and nobody (yet) proving it does.
Also (obviously) it does not affect heals. If Im making right assumptions, hunding rage is worth 360WD with major brutality, to every damage and heals.
We ran tests, and it is getting the buff.1 -
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✭The main problem with this set in PvP is it doesn't boost healing. But it gives bigger burst, so dealers choice. In PVE it's fine unless you are using vMA dual wield, then sets that give too much weapon damage should be avoided as they are exceptionally weak with those weapons.0 -
TheStealthDude✭✭✭✭cpuScientist wrote: »sodantokb16_ESO wrote: »I have seen many people claim Major Brutality does not affect it and nobody (yet) proving it does.
Also (obviously) it does not affect heals. If Im making right assumptions, hunding rage is worth 360WD with major brutality, to every damage and heals.
We ran tests, and it is getting the buff.
Can I ask how you tested this?0 -
Draqone✭✭✭✭The math was ingame, I a friend did some tests. I can't remember the exact method now but what he did was something like use 4 piece SotA + 5 piece Hundings + 1 Kena, hit a mob with a Phys dmg ability.
Then he used 5 piece SotA and 4 piece Hundings and compared the damage.sodantokb16_ESO wrote: »//EDIT: I made some my own calculations from some thread that had heavy attack damage of hunding vs automaton and the increase from automaton was nowhere near close what it should be if it was affected by brutality. Unless my math was wrong or automaton does not affect heavy attacks.
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But SotA clearly says "abilities" which means it does not affect heavy attacks...IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »It's decent. Not good, but very decent, probably within 5% of the BiS gear as long as you rely on phys dmg abilities in your rotation.
it is affected by major brutality, i saw pretty convincing math somewhere.
Also, it's Dwemer which IMHO is one of the best looking sets.
@IzakiBrotherSs
Its not just like Sun isn't affected by Sorcery... But do share that convincing math please
https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/5b0xj5/daily_set_discussion_20161104_swordsinger/Edited by Draqone on April 8, 2017 6:05AMESO Balance:
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XxBradeyxX✭✭✭For PvP I love this set on my nightblade. I run 5 Auto 5 Viper 2 veli and almost 1 hit everyone even after homestead patch.0 -
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✭The math was ingame, I a friend did some tests. I can't remember the exact method now but what he did was something like use 4 piece SotA + 5 piece Hundings + 1 Kena, hit a mob with a Phys dmg ability.
Then he used 5 piece SotA and 4 piece Hundings and compared the damage.sodantokb16_ESO wrote: »//EDIT: I made some my own calculations from some thread that had heavy attack damage of hunding vs automaton and the increase from automaton was nowhere near close what it should be if it was affected by brutality. Unless my math was wrong or automaton does not affect heavy attacks.
@sodantokb16_ESO
But SotA clearly says "abilities" which means it does not affect heavy attacks...IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »It's decent. Not good, but very decent, probably within 5% of the BiS gear as long as you rely on phys dmg abilities in your rotation.
it is affected by major brutality, i saw pretty convincing math somewhere.
Also, it's Dwemer which IMHO is one of the best looking sets.
@IzakiBrotherSs
Its not just like Sun isn't affected by Sorcery... But do share that convincing math please
https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/5b0xj5/daily_set_discussion_20161104_swordsinger/
I don't think that's how you test this stuff... Only variables should be the sets and brutality. 0cp, 0 other sets, same skill, same mob, etc.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭XxBradeyxX wrote: »For PvP I love this set on my nightblade. I run 5 Auto 5 Viper 2 veli and almost 1 hit everyone even after homestead patch.
Yeah proc sets are so much fun...
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