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Lyserus
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Let's face it the reason why storage is not in the housing now is not because some "many ppl don't have their bank fully upgraded", it is because it contrary to craft bag, if houses have storage then less ppl will need craft bag is THE reason.
...........and now ZOS is adding double bank storage to subbers?

I am a subber but this is too much. They could put many other ways to make sub valuable again (double research speed when player is online, shorter horse train time etc) but instead they are putting the pressure on storage management alone. That means: 1. No more free or gold-purchasable storages because it is bound to contrary to the sub value----and ZOS won't let that happen 2.Therefore no housing storage 3. Unsub or no sub will cause a great pain to the point you either quit or sub (It is already bad now, it will be worse)

Seriously ZOS, even as a subber I am disappointed to this decision
  • Lyserus
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    The option I can think of to make this decision "okay" and let non-subber play is to add housing storage to bank storage, and base on that double the bank space of subbers. But still I don't think that is the case becasue unless they are only adding say 30 storage for a manor, many ppl still won't need sub anymore, and that is something ZOS definitely discuessed
  • Cpt_Teemo
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    I've had my bank fully upgraded since week 1 of beta to game launch. They really should just increase the normal bank space to atleast 500 or possibly more, cause a 240 to 200 (character) ratio seems kind of super small when you can have 12 characters.
  • SublimeSparo
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    But you can buy a banker and put it in your home, boom storage in your house :trollface:
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  • Lyserus
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    But you can buy a banker and put it in your home, boom storage in your house :trollface:

    1.ZOS add storage to housing, make housing storage a part of bank storage
    2.buy a house and get some storage
    3.put a banker in the house, which adds the housing storage with current bank storage
    4.Increased bank storage->banker adds more housing storage
    5.???
    6.unlimited storage for everyone!
    :trollface: problem?
  • zaria
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    For their own sake they should add storage in houses rater than increase bank space.
    An item don't take up much room, say 100 byte nothing more. character and bank is around 400 items so 40 kb.
    Bank items is stored in memory as you can access it from crafting stations and summonable banker with no delay.
    Storage in housing will be stored and loaded with the house instance so its on drive most of the time making it far easier on the servers.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • haute
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    Let me put it In this way. Storage is a lucrative business for ZOS. There is no way to give this away for free. If we are going to have it, it will be priced on par with the current bag space and bank space upgrades.

    Since most people do not max out their bag/ bank space, there is no need to include storage in homestead at least it appears so in the eyes of ZOS.
    Edited by haute on April 5, 2017 5:32AM
  • Mayrael
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    First of all Im a suber since ESO went B2P. What hurts me the most is ESO starts to became like mmos that went F2P model. I was afraid of that as this was the reason I left every single mmo in the past. I dont mind subscription untill it doesnt hurt non subers. Why? We all want to play with other ppl, many of them are casuals that just want spent thier time playing the game they like, but if most fundamental aspects of game are unaviable for them they will stop to play. And all we will have will be empty Cyrodiil, hours of waiting to do group content etc.
    Its happening since changing game model. Now we will add some features for subers, while restricting non subers. After a year or two we will have "guild store search just for subers, restrictions in collecting materials, better chance of refining upgrade mats for subers, one dungeon run per day" in general they will make so many restrictions (by adding "special features" for subers that should be aviable to all since they are critical for gameplay) that playing without sub will be impossible, trust me Ive seen so many games gone this road, it is far from ok.
    I'm done with this game because of ZOS pushing us into Vengeance, because they don't know how to fix Cyrodiil.
  • max_only
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    Double storage is meh. I'm not excited but some people are so I'm not gonna knock it. I'd much rather get loyalty rewards.


    I'd like housing storage but I'd want it to be specialized. Weapon racks for weapons, mannequins for armor, kegs for drinks (interactable by guests) display cases for trophies (counts as 1 item in the limit, but holds maybe 3 or 4 collectibles under the glass). Practical storage that adds interaction and animation.
    Edited by max_only on April 5, 2017 5:38AM
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  • Lyserus
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    Mayrael wrote: »
    First of all Im a suber since ESO went B2P. What hurts me the most is ESO starts to became like mmos that went F2P model. I was afraid of that as this was the reason I left every single mmo in the past. I dont mind subscription untill it doesnt hurt non subers. Why? We all want to play with other ppl, many of them are casuals that just want spent thier time playing the game they like, but if most fundamental aspects of game are unaviable for them they will stop to play. And all we will have will be empty Cyrodiil, hours of waiting to do group content etc.
    Its happening since changing game model. Now we will add some features for subers, while restricting non subers. After a year or two we will have "guild store search just for subers, restrictions in collecting materials, better chance of refining upgrade mats for subers, one dungeon run per day" in general they will make so many restrictions (by adding "special features" for subers that should be aviable to all since they are critical for gameplay) that playing without sub will be impossible, trust me Ive seen so many games gone this road, it is far from ok.

    yeah....I mean if not for my guildies I will be long gone...the more you play it the more you realize how broken this game is
  • flguy147ub17_ESO
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    Mayrael wrote: »
    First of all Im a suber since ESO went B2P. What hurts me the most is ESO starts to became like mmos that went F2P model. I was afraid of that as this was the reason I left every single mmo in the past. I dont mind subscription untill it doesnt hurt non subers. Why? We all want to play with other ppl, many of them are casuals that just want spent thier time playing the game they like, but if most fundamental aspects of game are unaviable for them they will stop to play. And all we will have will be empty Cyrodiil, hours of waiting to do group content etc.
    Its happening since changing game model. Now we will add some features for subers, while restricting non subers. After a year or two we will have "guild store search just for subers, restrictions in collecting materials, better chance of refining upgrade mats for subers, one dungeon run per day" in general they will make so many restrictions (by adding "special features" for subers that should be aviable to all since they are critical for gameplay) that playing without sub will be impossible, trust me Ive seen so many games gone this road, it is far from ok.

    MMOs moving away from Sub models being the standard is bad for players i think but i know that is more the norm now.. New players to MMOs may not agree but back even 10 years ago, pretty much all AAA were subs and then started going to a free to play model. You use get cool mounts and stuff by playing the game not buying them on crown stores. You cant get one cool mount in this game by playing it, just plain boring horses. Wish games would go back that way, it really was the best model by far. Even buying XP scrolls with real money, is kinda pay 2 win. Cause when you level up faster you get more stats faster. Miss the days where it was like that and i do think the communities were better back then too imo.
  • Appleblade
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    Never fully upgraded existing storage due to cost.

    I'd like to be able to craft small storage spaces for the housing to store things separate from the bank.
  • rynth
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    I'm pretty sure it'd hard keep everyones stuff in their player houses not to mention all people *** if something went wrong and people lost their stuff. I would think that would be a nightmare trying figure out who lost what and why. Just be happy with game you have and the stuff that is in it right now.
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  • MacCait
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    Storage in housing need only be for furniture!
  • Asardes
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    Well, I have maxed bank space and bag space on 9 chars. I can only play 4 of them because the other 5 have full inventory. Only one of those keeps materials. So subbing would in effect save me just one character slot, maybe two if the mats in the bank would also fit there. 2 Character slots are 3K crowns, equal to subbing 2 months. The other 4 just keep gear because I don't know what I'll use in the future and don't want to spend hundreds of hours re-farming that stuff. For those crafting bag would mean nothing.
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  • FloppyTouch
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    But you can buy a banker and put it in your home, boom storage in your house :trollface:

    I like the way you think ;)
  • Runschei
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    One solution to add storage to your house could be that instead of using banker you can use your house. Or both for that matter. If you have 73/140 items in bank, you can have the remaining space in you house if you have some kind of containers like drawers and cupboards.

    I don't really see the point in this kind of storage as you would just have two seperate banks really, but it was just an idea that hit me.
  • Turelus
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    It seems ZOS has found a paint point they can try and make money on without too much outrage.

    Still I wonder if they will offer some kind of token bank system for housing.
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  • FloppyTouch
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    I parked 3 characters at my house just to hold things like trees and plants :/
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