it depends on class and build. Ig. for NB sap tanks stam pool is not important as they regain stam via siphoning attacks and with block cost reduction (sturdy traits and defending posture) they can never run out of stamina. For NB the only thing that boost my stam pool is 3 stat enchantments on armour. (and as food buff i use Orzorga's Red Frothgar - max HP and magicka regen).

I've managed with as little as 13.6K on my Sorcerer shield tank but he doesn't block much. He relies on perma-hardened. For other classes the same tactics is almost as viable, if they use harness. I've ranked all vet HM dungeons with him, including DLC. His stats are 41.5K magicka 22.5K health 13.6K stamina and the resistance is about 25K warded. 2.1K magicka and 1.35K stamina recovery, ~50% spell critical. My main concern with Templar tank is the lack of readily available CC. I use shattering prison on my sorcerer to manage that. Pierce armor is still cheaper to use overall than inner fire so although I use the latter as well, I still rely on the former in 9/10 fights.

Differs by class, gearing, and group.

A magDK tank running engine guardian or sentinel of Rkugmbarf probably doesn't need any extra investment in stamina besides trifood, as they can always cycle themselves some via their gear or igneous shield.

Any magicka tank with templar support doesn't really need much stamina either.

This is all assuming vet dungeons, not trials, of course.

Well, the short answer is enough. Seriously, let me explain:

My templar sits between 12-17k stamina when he tanks. Puncture, etc does not affect that much, as you're generally only casting every 12 seconds.

It depends on what other stam abilities you are casting, how often, how often you have to block, dodge, bash, etc. (I assume Blazing is a big part of your rotation)

Start with at least 12k and you can always fine tune via alternate food, mundus, and enchants.

You don't expect to perma block as a magtank anyway. You have to learn when your guard has to be up, and when you can drop it and let yourself regen.

Narvuntien wrote: »

Ran Normal City of Ash 5 times today but they didn't even need a heal tank since that dungeon is so easy, I had more trouble with world bosses.

Normal City of Ash 1 is easily soloable - I've done it on my Stamina DK and Magicka Sorcerer killing everything - and veteran can be done with 4 DDs spamming AoE at everything. I know people that have soloed that as well

I've tanked with as low as 16k on my magblade, but for vet trials I use about 19k.

Narvuntien wrote: »

That makes me feel better about not having a lot of stamina... having 15K should be enough. I can redo my stat points to all magicka then Health and plus Tri Enchants on the large pieces.

I am not a blazing tank, that requires a lot more health or health stacking than I intend to have, I am intending to build with quite a bit of magicka. Reberance and Solar disterbance gives a lot of damage mitigation but then I miss out on warhorn (when I get it eventually)

This is my first tank so I am still learning. (Yes I went harder mode but I already have a DK character, Dragonmage MagDK).

Ran Normal City of Ash 5 times today but they didn't even need a heal tank since that dungeon is so easy, I had more trouble with world bosses.

Running dragongaurd and bloodthrone until I I research the 8th trait and make my own armor.

It's gonna be based on your playstyle more than anything. Bear in mind, with a smaller pool, timing becomes more critical, as does mitigation and cost reduction.

Regarding blazing, you don't need 60k health for blazing to be useful - 30k will still net you a 10k shield. You can block behind it if it's close to expiration and a big hit is coming.

I recommend Empowering Sweep in place of Solar Disturbance. It's way cheaper, and the mitigation from it can be huge. You can always backbar Warhorn once you get it. Remember the first and best way you can support your teammates is to stay alive, aux support (Warhorn, etc) comes next.

I also assume you're standing in Channeled focus for 20 seconds worth of bonus mitigation and up to 12 seconds of free regen?

If you still find yourself having difficulty, don't be afraid to tinker with different food and/or drink combos, or even switch your mundus. Every combination (food/drink included) doesn't work equally well for every fight.

Good luck!

(The nice thing about going 'harder mode' with a Magplar tank is that you will get really good at it. going back to DK will then be a piece of cake!)

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Depends on class and build I guess.

My dk shield tank and nightblade sap tank both only have 9k stamina, but they both also have ways to regain stamina quickly.

and NBs don't need to use piercing armor

It's pretty inefficient for a NB tank to not use Pierce Armor, since it's an all-in-one skill. The next best option is to use Inner Fire or Frost Staff heavies to taunt, while also applying Mark Target to the enemy.

As always, it doesn't really matter for dungeons. But for trials, we will run into multiple problems doing this:
1. It requires us to either use two skill slots to accomplish the same thing, or at best do a fully charged heavy attack to taunt, which takes 3x as long, plus you have to Mark as well.
2. If we're using 2 skills to taunt/fracture/breach, then it takes twice as long to apply the same buffs. It may seem trivial now, but double-casting every ten seconds adds up to a LOT of wasted time. You can spend that time synergizing, casting orbs, off-healing, etc.
3. Mark Target can only affect a single target at a time. This is fine for bosses, but becomes a problem when priority adds need to die quickly. You'd have to move your Mark a target at a time, which results in not only more work, but also wasted time, as mentioned in (2).

In essence, Pierce Armor is a lot more efficient.