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The classes ranked in order? Strongest to weakest.
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IlCanis_LupuslI✭✭✭✭✭In pvp
1 St. Mag dk
2nd stam dk
3rd stam sorc
4th mag sorc
5th stam templar
6th stamblade
7th magblade
8th mag templar
Xbox-EU-AD
Khajiit Night blade Healer(BiS for cuteness)-Flawless Conquerer Grand Overlord
Khajiit Stamsorc Werewolf, Flawless Conquerer (1st attempt ww form during the entire dungeon) main
Khajiit(Master Race) Templar Healer, Flawless Conquerer
Khajiit Stam dk, Flawless conquerer, 2nd attempt
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQhCmVHwZioVyTEDberxGtA?view_as=public
Werewolf Veteran player, Since Wrathstone-DLC "Raid-Wolf", 50k dps with fracture, Pvp Healer.3 -
silky_soft✭✭✭✭✭
✭Mangeli200194 wrote: »In pvp
1 St. Mag dk
2nd stam dk
3rd stam sorc
4th mag sorc
5th stam templar
6th stamblade
7th magblade
8th mag templar
More like:
Anything that can block cast damage and heals
Anything that can spam shields
Stamsorcs
Siege
Everything else
This recent update has made me sad. Sad for the game. Sad for the community. Sad to pay whatever it is now. I want the previous eso back.3 -
Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭There is no solid answer on this OP.
The game is a little less about classes and more about builds with classes, the rankings also change once to twice a year with updates. If you're concerned about playing something weak then play it safe like a Dunmer Fire DK which is good all round and has bonuses which work well together.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."4 -
IlCanis_LupuslI✭✭✭✭✭Is mag dk better than stam dk when tanking?
Yeah insane HoT, ridicilous substaining, Not to mentions elusive Mist
Xbox-EU-AD
Khajiit Night blade Healer(BiS for cuteness)-Flawless Conquerer Grand Overlord
Khajiit Stamsorc Werewolf, Flawless Conquerer (1st attempt ww form during the entire dungeon) main
Khajiit(Master Race) Templar Healer, Flawless Conquerer
Khajiit Stam dk, Flawless conquerer, 2nd attempt
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQhCmVHwZioVyTEDberxGtA?view_as=public
Werewolf Veteran player, Since Wrathstone-DLC "Raid-Wolf", 50k dps with fracture, Pvp Healer.0 -
Kram8ion✭✭✭✭✭
✭In pvp it's which ever opponents build turns your abilities and weapons into twig swinging and glitter throwing
Aussie lag is real!0 -
WhiteMage✭✭✭✭✭
✭If we could actually make this list, that will mean the developers have failed at their job.The generally amicable yet sporadically salty magplar that may or may not have 1vXed you in Sotha Sil. Who knows?4 -
Draqone✭✭✭✭If we could actually make this list, that will mean the developers have failed at their job.
You do realise it's not possible to balance class skills perfectly? Unless of course everyone has exactly the same skills which in turn results in everyone running nearly identical builds.
The developers actually do their job pretty well since ESO, believe it or not, is a skill game and in my trials I'd rather have a good player on a stamplar than a bad player on a magsorc.*
*As long as that stamplar was the only stamplar in that trial.
ESO Balance:
“All skills are equal, but some skills are more equal than others.”1 -
Tommy_The_Gun✭✭✭✭✭
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This ^ Exactly. No class / race should be OP when compared. Furthermore - all classes should have ability to counter other classes. Especially when it comes to let's say duels or cyrodiil PvP.If we could actually make this list, that will mean the developers have failed at their job.
Right now in cyrodiil like 90% of players run Mag Sorcerer and spam Haunting Curse (with is in many cases fire & forget button) and also stack shields...
Similar situation is in PvE. All top scores on Trials / Arenas are sorcerers (sometimes a Templar will show up but I saw it at best at 3rd place).
I guess there is a good reason for that...
Strongest to weakest:
For PvE:
- Mag Sorcerer
- Stam Sorcerer
- Mag Dragonknight
- Mag Templar
- Stam Dragonknight
- Stam Templar
- Mag Nightblade
- Stam Nightblade
For: PvP
- Mag Sorcerer
- Mag Templar
- Mag Dragonknight
- Stam Sorcerer
- Stam Dragonknight
- Stam Templar
- Mag Nightblade
- Stam Nightblade
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IlCanis_LupuslI✭✭✭✭✭Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »
This ^ Exactly. No class / race should be OP when compared. Furthermore - all classes should have ability to counter other classes. Especially when it comes to let's say duels or cyrodiil PvP.If we could actually make this list, that will mean the developers have failed at their job.
Right now in cyrodiil like 90% of players run Mag Sorcerer and spam Haunting Curse (with is in many cases fire & forget button) and also stack shields...
Similar situation is in PvE. All top scores on Trials / Arenas are sorcerers (sometimes a Templar will show up but I saw it at best at 3rd place).
I guess there is a good reason for that...
Strongest to weakest:
For PvE:
- Mag Sorcerer
- Stam Sorcerer
- Mag Dragonknight
- Mag Templar
- Stam Dragonknight
- Stam Templar
- Mag Nightblade
- Stam Nightblade
For: PvP
- Mag Sorcerer
- Mag Templar
- Mag Dragonknight
- Stam Sorcerer
- Stam Dragonknight
- Stam Templar
- Mag Nightblade
- Stam Nightblade
I put the templar way lower ever since they nerft Jesus beam and blazing shards , a stam dk will trash a stamsorc(better sustain, better self-heals, harder hitting ultimate), also a mag dk will nuke a sorc (well more like stunning him into submission lol)
Any day unless hes a total screw upEdited by IlCanis_LupuslI on April 1, 2017 8:46AM
Xbox-EU-AD
Khajiit Night blade Healer(BiS for cuteness)-Flawless Conquerer Grand Overlord
Khajiit Stamsorc Werewolf, Flawless Conquerer (1st attempt ww form during the entire dungeon) main
Khajiit(Master Race) Templar Healer, Flawless Conquerer
Khajiit Stam dk, Flawless conquerer, 2nd attempt
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQhCmVHwZioVyTEDberxGtA?view_as=public
Werewolf Veteran player, Since Wrathstone-DLC "Raid-Wolf", 50k dps with fracture, Pvp Healer.0 -
Cadbury✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Warden"If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."0 -
zaria✭✭✭✭✭
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Saw somebody who had tested bis builds of the 8 classes and dps was pretty close as in 40-45k range who is pretty close so Gear is more important here, not sure how it would look with crafted / overland gear.Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
Kalante✭✭✭✭✭
✭PvE
1. Mag Sorcerer
2. Stam Sorcerer
3. Mag Dragonknight
4. Mag Templar
5. Stam Dragonknight
6. Mag Nightblade
7. Stam Templar
8. Stam Nightblade
PvP
1. Mag Sorcerer
2. Mag Templar
3. Mag Dragonknight
4. Stam Sorcerer
5. Stam Dragonknight
6. Stam Templar
7. Mag Nightblade
8. Stam Nightblade
Stam templar is getting up there since people are using it more because of the decent buffs that they got in the homestead update, stam nb and mag nb in the other hand never get any love at all and are still the hardest class to play in pvp and extremely underwhelming in pve, a small mistake can cost dearly as an nb player with barely any resistance and heals.
There is no reason to run an nb over the other classes unless you want to gank and be hated by everyone. There are those rare people that very very good with night blades but those are rare, even dro m'athra destroyers that run other classes have expressed how the nb's rotation is too ugly.Edited by Kalante on April 1, 2017 10:13AM2 -
Ep1kMalware✭✭✭✭✭
✭If we could actually make this list, that will mean the developers have failed at their job.
You do realise it's not possible to balance class skills perfectly? Unless of course everyone has exactly the same skills which in turn results in everyone running nearly identical builds.
The developers actually do their job pretty well since ESO, believe it or not, is a skill game and in my trials I'd rather have a good player on a stamplar than a bad player on a magsorc.*
*As long as that stamplar was the only stamplar in that trial.
Agreed, I've seen great magsorcs but the majority I have seen are squishy, and cheese their rotation to get acceptable parses. I'm not dissing the class, but they have their faults. Stam templar at least has alot of splash dmg for trash pulls and good st dps as well as can keep potl with good uptime. I'll admit with complete honesty that I've seen better dps from mag sorcs than other stam templars in vet pugs, but better sustain/survivability from stam templar.
Really it just comes down to player skill. we did a score run with 4 stam dps in group and hit #11. My ex guild that was magdps only hit #94 (still makes me gigglefit)0 -
Kay1✭✭✭✭✭
✭Mangeli200194 wrote: »In pvp
1 St. Mag dk
2nd stam dk
3rd stam sorc
4th mag sorc
5th stam templar
6th stamblade
7th magblade
8th mag templar
What type of *** is that, does you guys in this forum even play PvP? Wtf dude I'm not sure if he's trolling magtemplar 8th lmao hahahahha
1. Mag Sorc
2. Mag DK
3. Mag Temp
4. Stam DK
5. Stam Sorc
6. Stam Templar
7. Stam NB
8. Mag NB
That is the real ranking for PvP, I have more than 1k hours in all of those classes so you can choose to believe it or not.K1 The Big Monkey0 -
Aedaryl✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's pretty hard to make a real list in PvP, because there is classes that have counters in other classes. And also, heavy armor is overperforming, making impossible a real order
But there are few things I'm sure :
1) Stam dk = Mag dk => Great 1vX possibility, great damage, best tankiness, good heal => Best Damage and survivability possible.
8) Magblade => not good synergize with heavy armor, hardest burst to make, wearing underperforming armor and using the hardest burst.0 -
ADarklore✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Mangeli200194 wrote: »Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »
This ^ Exactly. No class / race should be OP when compared. Furthermore - all classes should have ability to counter other classes. Especially when it comes to let's say duels or cyrodiil PvP.If we could actually make this list, that will mean the developers have failed at their job.
Right now in cyrodiil like 90% of players run Mag Sorcerer and spam Haunting Curse (with is in many cases fire & forget button) and also stack shields...
Similar situation is in PvE. All top scores on Trials / Arenas are sorcerers (sometimes a Templar will show up but I saw it at best at 3rd place).
I guess there is a good reason for that...
Strongest to weakest:
For PvE:
- Mag Sorcerer
- Stam Sorcerer
- Mag Dragonknight
- Mag Templar
- Stam Dragonknight
- Stam Templar
- Mag Nightblade
- Stam Nightblade
For: PvP
- Mag Sorcerer
- Mag Templar
- Mag Dragonknight
- Stam Sorcerer
- Stam Dragonknight
- Stam Templar
- Mag Nightblade
- Stam Nightblade
I put the templar way lower ever since they nerft Jesus beam and blazing shards , a stam dk will trash a stamsorc(better sustain, better self-heals, harder hitting ultimate), also a mag dk will nuke a sorc (well more like stunning him into submission lol)
Any day unless hes a total screw up
So they remove a stun and that becomes a major nerf to a skill?!? They lower an already OP skill, and that breaks a class? I don't think so. A Templar should not be reliant on only TWO skills, and they definitely shouldn't be solely reliant on a stun for their success. Plus, the majority of Magplars have stated that the nerf to RO has not been that noticeable.Edited by ADarklore on April 1, 2017 12:32PMCP: 2078 ** ESO+ 2025 Content Pass ** ~~ ***** Strictly a solo PvE quester *****
~~Started Playing: May 2015 | Stopped Playing: July 2025~~1 -
THEDKEXPERIENCE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Mangeli200194 wrote: »In pvp
1 St. Mag dk
2nd stam dk
3rd stam sorc
4th mag sorc
5th stam templar
6th stamblade
7th magblade
8th mag templar
Hahaha. I will use this as evidence the next time a nerf Magplars thread comes about. My character is still OP AF. Why? Cause I don't listen to the FOTM kids and keep the same guy, only with minor adjustments, during each patch.
Also, for what it's worth, I've died to more stam sorcs than any other class and it's not even close. Here is a ranking of works best against me, which will be different from yours because that's how balance works.
- Stamsorc
- Magblade
- Magsorc
- Magtemp
- Stamblade
- StamDK
- Stamplar
- MagDK
Your results may vary ... and should.0 -
Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭ist this that?
PVE in dps ofc because tank and healers ar known
1) mag dk - the best dps in game
2)mag sorc - the best range dps in game and great utilty
3)magplar -still great dps, great utility
4)stam dk - good single target dps
5)stam sorc - same as stam dk
6)magblade -only not bad dps but in range, this is only his plus
7)stamblade -the worst single and aoe dps in game bypassing stamplar as I know
8)stamplar -under everything in dps, only power of the light nice to support but now it is using just be healers in support
btw I was not counting range or melee to this
PVP, overal, sustain, mobility, survivability etc
1)mag sorc -have everything
2)stamsorc -same as mag sorc
3)magdk -lack only with mobility
4)stam dk -same as mag dk
5)magplar - same as dk
6)stamblade -mobility addicted to many counters on cloak and in mostly cases cant get any hit because every hit can be deadly, most squiset class and hardest to play to be effective as rest listed above classes
7)magblade -similiar to stamblade but much worse damage without bombing and lack of good heals except healing ward
stamplar....I dont know because I almos never see stamplar on pvp xD1 -
ADarklore✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ist this that?
PVE in dps ofc because tank and healers ar known
1) mag dk - the best dps in game
2)mag sorc - the best range dps in game and great utilty
3)magplar -still great dps, great utility
4)stam dk - good single target dps
5)stam sorc - same as stam dk
6)magblade -only not bad dps but in range, this is only his plus
7)stamblade -the worst single and aoe dps in game bypassing stamplar as I know
8)stamplar -under everything in dps, only power of the light nice to support but now it is using just be healers in support
btw I was not counting range or melee to this
PVP, overal, sustain, mobility, survivability etc
1)mag sorc -have everything
2)stamsorc -same as mag sorc
3)magdk -lack only with mobility
4)stam dk -same as mag dk
5)magplar - same as dk
6)stamblade -mobility addicted to many counters on cloak and in mostly cases cant get any hit because every hit can be deadly, most squiset class and hardest to play to be effective as rest listed above classes
7)magblade -similiar to stamblade but much worse damage without bombing and lack of good heals except healing ward
stamplar....I dont know because I almos never see stamplar on pvp xD
I agree with most of your list except for PvE StamSorc... with Steel Tornado, Hurricane, Acid Spray and Endless Hail, they also have great AoE... and with Crit Surge... an excellent self-heal... and having Clannfear out, excellent aggro draw. CP: 2078 ** ESO+ 2025 Content Pass ** ~~ ***** Strictly a solo PvE quester *****
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Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭ist this that?
PVE in dps ofc because tank and healers ar known
1) mag dk - the best dps in game
2)mag sorc - the best range dps in game and great utilty
3)magplar -still great dps, great utility
4)stam dk - good single target dps
5)stam sorc - same as stam dk
6)magblade -only not bad dps but in range, this is only his plus
7)stamblade -the worst single and aoe dps in game bypassing stamplar as I know
8)stamplar -under everything in dps, only power of the light nice to support but now it is using just be healers in support
btw I was not counting range or melee to this
PVP, overal, sustain, mobility, survivability etc
1)mag sorc -have everything
2)stamsorc -same as mag sorc
3)magdk -lack only with mobility
4)stam dk -same as mag dk
5)magplar - same as dk
6)stamblade -mobility addicted to many counters on cloak and in mostly cases cant get any hit because every hit can be deadly, most squiset class and hardest to play to be effective as rest listed above classes
7)magblade -similiar to stamblade but much worse damage without bombing and lack of good heals except healing ward
stamplar....I dont know because I almos never see stamplar on pvp xD
I agree with most of your list except for PvE StamSorc... with Steel Tornado, Hurricane, Acid Spray and Endless Hail, they also have great AoE... and with Crit Surge... an excellent self-heal... and having Clannfear out, excellent aggro draw.
but who will use on edgame stam sorc any pet and acid spray?
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