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What we learned from the Battlegrounds AUA on Reddit:
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1. Matches will last at most 15 minutes. Potentially shorter if one team is dominating.
2. You can use Soul Gems to resurrect fallen allies.
3. All roles welcomed, and no role restrictions for Activity Finder (i.e. there doesn’t need to be 1 healer, 1 tank, and 2 DPS).
4. Unique titles, gear, and furnishings associated with BGs.
5. Win/loss ratio has no effect on Leaderboard ranking; just medals earned.
6. No gear or consumable restrictions. Poisons will be allowed/used.
7. ZOS doesn’t like “un-killable” builds either.
8. Expect major re-balancing with the Morrowind expansion. This includes item sets.
9. There will be no resource nodes in BGs.
10. Rich Lambert’s wife laughs at him for staying up late playing ESO.
11. Unique gear from BGs will be useful in PvE, and PvP; and some gear will only be useful against players.
12. No ETA on Morrowind PTS.
13. Match making will focus on many variables including: level, max CP, solo, or in a group.
14. Jessica Folsom prefers dogs over cats.
15. AP earned in BGs will have no influence on Cyrodiil leaderboards.
2. You can use Soul Gems to resurrect fallen allies.
3. All roles welcomed, and no role restrictions for Activity Finder (i.e. there doesn’t need to be 1 healer, 1 tank, and 2 DPS).
4. Unique titles, gear, and furnishings associated with BGs.
5. Win/loss ratio has no effect on Leaderboard ranking; just medals earned.
6. No gear or consumable restrictions. Poisons will be allowed/used.
7. ZOS doesn’t like “un-killable” builds either.
8. Expect major re-balancing with the Morrowind expansion. This includes item sets.
9. There will be no resource nodes in BGs.
10. Rich Lambert’s wife laughs at him for staying up late playing ESO.
11. Unique gear from BGs will be useful in PvE, and PvP; and some gear will only be useful against players.
12. No ETA on Morrowind PTS.
13. Match making will focus on many variables including: level, max CP, solo, or in a group.
14. Jessica Folsom prefers dogs over cats.
15. AP earned in BGs will have no influence on Cyrodiil leaderboards.
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Oompuh✭✭✭✭✭LUL at 10 and 14
But good information nonethelessXbox NA - Oompa
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✭✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »8. Expect major re-balancing with the Morrowind expansion. This includes item sets.
*shudders*
But great post, thanks for sharing!
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Argawarga✭✭✭✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »ZOS doesn’t like “un-killable” builds either.
So have they only just found out about them, or have they been unwilling to devote resources (read: money) to fixing it?Edited by Argawarga on March 30, 2017 10:45PM3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »10. Rich Lambert’s wife laughs at him for staying up late playing ESO.
I get laughed at for playing eso too.
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✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »7. ZOS doesn’t like “un-killable” builds either.
block cost nerf incoming haha
This recent update has made me sad. Sad for the game. Sad for the community. Sad to pay whatever it is now. I want the previous eso back.1 -
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✭✭silky_soft wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »7. ZOS doesn’t like “un-killable” builds either.
block cost nerf incoming haha
Everyone in PvE land just went
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✭✭✭✭✭as always @Strider_Roshin - you rock
by any chance - did you get any indication idea concerning the environment/terrain we'll be fighting at/in?PVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place0 -
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✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »1. Matches will last at most 15 minutes. Potentially shorter if one team is dominating.
2. You can use Soul Gems to resurrect fallen allies.
3. All roles welcomed, and no role restrictions for Activity Finder (i.e. there doesn’t need to be 1 healer, 1 tank, and 2 DPS).
4. Unique titles, gear, and furnishings associated with BGs.
5. Win/loss ratio has no effect on Leaderboard ranking; just medals earned.
6. No gear or consumable restrictions. Poisons will be allowed/used.
7. ZOS doesn’t like “un-killable” builds either.
8. Expect major re-balancing with the Morrowind expansion. This includes item sets.
9. There will be no resource nodes in BGs.
10. Rich Lambert’s wife laughs at him for staying up late playing ESO.
11. Unique gear from BGs will be useful in PvE, and PvP; and some gear will only be useful against players.
12. No ETA on Morrowind PTS.
13. Match making will focus on many variables including: level, max CP, solo, or in a group.
14. Jessica Folsom prefers dogs over cats.
15. AP earned in BGs will have no influence on Cyrodiil leaderboards.
Good list! Thank you! (I mean it!)
I am among those who feels that battlegrounds will only harm eso. Your post made me giggle. *Bow*
My comments are like an orc, please take them as such.
1. Matches will last at most 15 minutes. Potentially shorter if one team is dominating.
Max time limit sucks.
2. You can use Soul Gems to resurrect fallen allies.
Hey, something I like!
5. Win/loss ratio has no effect on Leaderboard ranking; just medals earned.
Um, another thing I like? What the...
6. No gear or consumable restrictions. Poisons will be allowed/used.
This would been highly enjoyable to watch reactions if it was reversed. ^^
7. ZOS doesn’t like “un-killable” builds either.
"Un-Killable" builds players don't like ZoS either, so
8. Expect major re-balancing with the Morrowind expansion. This includes item sets.
Please LOWER the drop rate to make sets worth ANYTHING. More bind on pickup please.
10. Rich Lambert’s wife laughs at him for staying up late playing ESO.
He is funny to watch, the short-man!
11. Unique gear from BGs will be useful in PvE, and PvP; and some gear will only be useful against players.
So, mess up balance for pvp and pve at the same time? Fair I guess!
13. Match making will focus on many variables including: level, max CP, solo, or in a group.
So it will not work for 2 years like the group finder?
14. Jessica Folsom prefers dogs over cats.
15. AP earned in BGs will have no influence on Cyrodiil leaderboards.
Another good thing? Hmm, I am more positive AFTER reading eso forum? Wtfoxrz?
Again, to @Strider_Roshin
Thanks for this sum up!Oghur Hatemachine, Guild leader of The Nephilim - EU Megaserver
Orc Weapon Specialist and Warchief of the Ebonheart Pact - Trueflame Cyrodiil War Campaign
Guildsite: The Nephilim
"I don't agree with what you are saying, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it"
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✭✭as always @Strider_Roshin - you rock
by any chance - did you get any indication idea concerning the environment/terrain we'll be fighting at/in?
There is an article out for each battleground with descriptions and images and there's an hour long video on youtube where the top dogs show them off.3 -
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Its an reason why it was significant resistance to small scale organized PvP in the beta community:Strider_Roshin wrote: »8. Expect major re-balancing with the Morrowind expansion. This includes item sets.
*shudders*
But great post, thanks for sharing!
its very easy to use it to balance as you get very good and clear data.
That the data who is only relevant for small scale organized PvP us irrelevant as its clear data.
Its also irrelevant for devs that it hurt AvA PvP and PvE.
Why not use the battleground data for an race balancing? Probably more relecant than gear.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
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✭✭✭✭✭silky_soft wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »7. ZOS doesn’t like “un-killable” builds either.
block cost nerf incoming haha
Knowing wrobel, this will come in the form of a 5 piece set bonus that grants light attacks a 5% chance to detonate blocking opponents, causing them to explode for 20k AE dmg.9 -
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✭✭silky_soft wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »7. ZOS doesn’t like “un-killable” builds either.
block cost nerf incoming haha
Knowing wrobel, this will come in the form of a 5 piece set bonus that grants light attacks a 5% chance to detonate blocking opponents, causing them to explode for 20k AE dmg.
And the damage of the explosion will go down with 10k for every 1 player next to the target.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭as always @Strider_Roshin - you rock
by any chance - did you get any indication idea concerning the environment/terrain we'll be fighting at/in?
There is an article out for each battleground with descriptions and images and there's an hour long video on youtube where the top dogs show them off.
nice, next stop - Google
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✭silky_soft wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »7. ZOS doesn’t like “un-killable” builds either.
block cost nerf incoming haha
Knowing wrobel, this will come in the form of a 5 piece set bonus that grants light attacks a 5% chance to detonate blocking opponents, causing them to explode for 20k AE dmg.
Do you know Wrobel? Please tell him that not all players flames him.Oghur Hatemachine, Guild leader of The Nephilim - EU Megaserver
Orc Weapon Specialist and Warchief of the Ebonheart Pact - Trueflame Cyrodiil War Campaign
Guildsite: The Nephilim
"I don't agree with what you are saying, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it"
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✭✭✭✭✭just finally watched the short battlegrounds promo from PAX...man, I hope they turn the lights on when we're fighting...Edited by geonsocal on March 31, 2017 12:00AMPVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place0 -
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✭I think that having matchmaking be based only on level, CP, and group size is a big mistake. You could have a CP600 player with a 5-45 record, and a CP600 player with a 45-5 record, and that kind of matchmaking will consider them "equal". Expect to see a lot of skilled players bored and unchallenged by all the unskilled players they queue into, and a lot of unskilled players frustrated with all the people they queue into that just faceroll them.
They don't necessarily need matchmaking to be based on win/loss records, but they can't pretend that a character's level is any sort of indication of skill.4 -
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✭✭✭THANK YOU so much for posting this!
I personally don't really like using Reddit, so your synopsis is awesome!
Now I didn't miss new new's!!
Huzzah!!!Drakon Koryn~Oryndill, Rogue~Mage,- CP ~Doesn't matter any more
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✭ColoursYouHave wrote: »I think that having matchmaking be based only on level, CP, and group size is a big mistake. You could have a CP600 player with a 5-45 record, and a CP600 player with a 45-5 record, and that kind of matchmaking will consider them "equal". Expect to see a lot of skilled players bored and unchallenged by all the unskilled players they queue into, and a lot of unskilled players frustrated with all the people they queue into that just faceroll them.
They don't necessarily need matchmaking to be based on win/loss records, but they can't pretend that a character's level is any sort of indication of skill.
it will just be like swtor by, farm the *** out medals. Once you get the medals for certain parts, say objectives, you move on to the next set of medals. Who cares if you win or lose as it makes no difference, just kill trade your way to top spots.This recent update has made me sad. Sad for the game. Sad for the community. Sad to pay whatever it is now. I want the previous eso back.0 -
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✭silky_soft wrote: »ColoursYouHave wrote: »I think that having matchmaking be based only on level, CP, and group size is a big mistake. You could have a CP600 player with a 5-45 record, and a CP600 player with a 45-5 record, and that kind of matchmaking will consider them "equal". Expect to see a lot of skilled players bored and unchallenged by all the unskilled players they queue into, and a lot of unskilled players frustrated with all the people they queue into that just faceroll them.
They don't necessarily need matchmaking to be based on win/loss records, but they can't pretend that a character's level is any sort of indication of skill.
it will just be like swtor by, farm the *** out medals. Once you get the medals for certain parts, say objectives, you move on to the next set of medals. Who cares if you win or lose as it makes no difference, just kill trade your way to top spots.
I'm not even that worried about the leaderboards (although those certainly may present their own issues), but rather the matchmaking system itself. Ideally, you want some sort of system that can match new players with other new players, unskilled players with other unskilled players, and skilled players with other skilled players. With how easy it is to gain levels in this game, using them for matchmaking is pretty much worthless. As a regular non-vet PVPer, believe me when I say that character level means absolutely nothing when it comes to assessing how skilled somebody is.3 -
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Just a minor correction ... so small I almost didn't post a reply ...2 -
Alphaa✭✭✭How are medals earned?
To make them less 'farmable' they should make them work as follows.
Winners get 100% of medals.
2nd get 50%
3rd get 25%
P.s- this could also make medals a way of match making?Edited by Alphaa on March 31, 2017 1:15AM0 -
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✭✭✭Taleof2Cities wrote: »12. No ETA™ on Morrowind PTS.
Just a minor correction ... so small I almost didn't post a reply ...
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✭✭8. Expect major re-balancing with the Morrowind expansion. This includes item sets.
Please LOWER the drop rate to make sets worth ANYTHING. More bind on pickup please.
I suppose there are some people out there who really enjoy grinding the same dungeon over and over. In my case, if I have a limited time to play, I'm gonna spend it in battlegrounds, not grinding.
If something can't be purchased from guild trader or AP vendor, I simply won't bother, and I suspect I won't be the only one playing only in battlegrounds.
I'd love to see all the dungeon and trials bind on pickup sets become available for PVP/BG players to purchase with AP instead of grinding dungeons.
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flguy147ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Scared to gold anything out right now, Even farming gear maybe useless cause when Morrowind hits.... I have a feeling there could be some major changes since this is the biggest Expansion/DLC (whatever you want to call it) they have released.2
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So I assume this means everyone in the group can be the same class and role they needed to add class restrictions where everyone has to be a different class and why it's not following the 2 dps 1 tank 1 healer set up is dumb as well.Strider_Roshin wrote: »3. All roles welcomed, and no role restrictions for Activity Finder (i.e. there doesn’t need to be 1 healer, 1 tank, and 2 DPS).
6. No gear or consumable restrictions. Poisons will be allowed/used.
Well I guess I saw it coming so I can't say I'm disappointed Zos can turn anything into *** o well a cool concept of battlegrounds ruined for me.
I know having class restrictions might not help or having the 1,1,2 group setup help combat the cheese and cancer groups but something is better then nothing at least make it harder for people to abuse the system.
Well anyway I can't wait to hear more details on that new trial coming out now I know battlegrounds will be a joke.
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✭✭✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »1. Matches will last at most 15 minutes. Potentially shorter if one team is dominating.
2. You can use Soul Gems to resurrect fallen allies.
3. All roles welcomed, and no role restrictions for Activity Finder (i.e. there doesn’t need to be 1 healer, 1 tank, and 2 DPS).
4. Unique titles, gear, and furnishings associated with BGs.
5. Win/loss ratio has no effect on Leaderboard ranking; just medals earned.
6. No gear or consumable restrictions. Poisons will be allowed/used.
7. ZOS doesn’t like “un-killable” builds either.
8. Expect major re-balancing with the Morrowind expansion. This includes item sets.
9. There will be no resource nodes in BGs.
10. Rich Lambert’s wife laughs at him for staying up late playing ESO.
11. Unique gear from BGs will be useful in PvE, and PvP; and some gear will only be useful against players.
12. No ETA on Morrowind PTS.
13. Match making will focus on many variables including: level, max CP, solo, or in a group.
14. Jessica Folsom prefers dogs over cats.
15. AP earned in BGs will have no influence on Cyrodiil leaderboards.
This is bull crap! I'm so *** I could quit the game right now!!!! How the hell could you like dogs over cats!!!!2
