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What would you rather have banned from BGs?
Jitterbug
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The word on the street is that battlegrounds will be no CP by default.
My question here is what you feel is the most important to have banned from use in battlegrounds, if any.
Edited by Jitterbug on March 29, 2017 10:05AM My question here is what you feel is the most important to have banned from use in battlegrounds, if any.
What would you rather have banned from BGs? 65 votes
Proc sets (anything with a % chance to do something).
7%
5 votes
Poisons (any and all of them).
40%
26 votes
Both 1 and 2.
20%
13 votes
Neither. Or I'll add something in a comment.
32%
21 votes
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DRXHarbinger✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Neither. Or I'll add something in a comment.Stealth / cloak.PC Master Race
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Lieblingsjunge✭✭✭✭✭
✭Poisons (any and all of them).No-CP is love
Poisons in no-cp however, is just dumb. Limit poisons to CP/CP-campaigns and it's fine, but poisons in no-cp makes it worth running a staff(for magicka class) just to light attack people with a poison equipped. Poke Poke Poke Poke for days.
I would also want to get rid of permanent cloaking. I know it's a habit for some magicka nightblades to stay 1 second visible and 10 seconds in cloak. Or using an ability then going straight into cloak again.
Proc-set stacking should also be removed. Let people run 1 instant proc-set only. (referring to global cooldown for procsets, which should be implemented imo).Ignorance is the greatest weapon of tyranny.
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FlyLionel✭✭✭✭Poisons (any and all of them).They want to make Bg's a more balanced scene for a quick fight, zeni knows what has to happen. Also the game has been out for how long and people dont know how to counter cloak? Not gonna run the special pots? Streak over? Any and all aoe? Alright.The Flyers0
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cpuScientist✭✭✭✭✭
✭Neither. Or I'll add something in a comment.Don't care about the CP debate. But if ZOS is gonna really say no CP by default for battlegrounds, it really makes them look bad. This is part of the game, if it is not balanced then fix it so it's part of the game. If not then completely seperate all PvP with PvE. Not seperate some PvP from other PvP. Distinctions like that make them seem like they have no clue no plan no care.5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Neither. Or I'll add something in a comment.When you have to remove a game feature, like CP, or anything else, it is an indication that said game feature might need to be reviewed to see if it belongs anywhere. If it does, it should be everywhere.XBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
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Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Neither. Or I'll add something in a comment.It's a unlikely dream but Add-Ons.
They're going to do something to force me to have to have them to remain competitive again, just like Cyrodiil.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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Jitterbug✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Neither. Or I'll add something in a comment.It's a unlikely dream but Add-Ons.
They're going to do something to force me to have to have them to remain competitive again, just like Cyrodiil.
Out of curiosity which add ons do you feel are mandatory for competitive play in Cyrodiil, and further which add ons do you fear might come into play in Battlegrounds? (if the questions sound sarcastic it's just the forums, they are honest)0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Neither. Or I'll add something in a comment.NOTHING should be banned from Battlegrounds, including CP. Why should we have to make "special" builds just for Battlegrounds?#CAREBEARMASTERRACE1 -
Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Neither. Or I'll add something in a comment.
First of all there is debate on what's manditory and I will admit I probably abused the use of the word for more dramatic impact (at least I can be honest!)It's a unlikely dream but Add-Ons.
They're going to do something to force me to have to have them to remain competitive again, just like Cyrodiil.
Out of curiosity which add ons do you feel are mandatory for competitive play in Cyrodiil, and further which add ons do you fear might come into play in Battlegrounds? (if the questions sound sarcastic it's just the forums, they are honest)
For Cyrodiil it's a lot of the add-ons which feed map event information into chat or on screen huds vs checking the map. For example a vanilla player won't know how far a keep has gone, but a player using add-ons knows when each flag in a keep flips, or notifications when the siege mark comes up.
I worry that the CTF/Domination modes will have similar feedback, knowledge as to if a flag is flipping without visual confirmation etc.
Whilst these are minor they do effect how you can play as you can abandon an action earlier and without needing to check a map.
I am sure there are others, and most common use like buff trackers etc. (which Morrowind adds official versions of).@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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Rohaus✭✭✭✭✭Neither. Or I'll add something in a comment.Reactive needs to go.YouTube channel Rohaus Lives!
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Jitterbug✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Neither. Or I'll add something in a comment.DRXHarbinger wrote: »Stealth / cloak.
And streak and breath and talons0 -
utb99✭✭✭Neither. Or I'll add something in a comment.Poisons are going to be needed to kill Blazing Aidsplars, One Button Tank DK wonders, etc. Only thing I would like is limiting the # of the same class to 2. This would prevent 4 Magicka Templars, 4 Health Wardens, etc. I doubt this will happen so oh well.
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WalksonGraves✭✭✭✭✭
✭Neither. Or I'll add something in a comment.DRXHarbinger wrote: »Stealth / cloak.
Haha like it hasn't already been removed from the entire game? Least effective/reliable core mechanic ever.2 -
Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Both 1 and 2.I think Battlegrounds should start as the game in day 1, without CP, poison and (stupidly OP) proc sets.
Then we could see if adding any of them is ok.Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
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mtwiggz✭✭✭✭✭Poisons (any and all of them).If battlegrounds are noCP then there should definitely be no poisons.
If battlegrounds have CP then I see no issues with poisons. Poisons drastically help take out those ridiculous unkillable tank builds which are only possible with CP.0 -
SlowMetabolism✭✭✭Neither. Or I'll add something in a comment.DRXHarbinger wrote: »Stealth / cloak.
And streak and breath and talons
And vigor and shields and class abilities and weapons and gear setsEdited by SlowMetabolism on March 30, 2017 3:23PMDay one Xbox player0 -
Cogo✭✭✭✭✭
✭The battlegrounds. They dont belong in ESO, and will probebly kill pvp. Oghur Hatemachine, Guild leader of The Nephilim - EU Megaserver
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parkham✭✭✭cpuScientist wrote: »Don't care about the CP debate. But if ZOS is gonna really say no CP by default for battlegrounds, it really makes them look bad. This is part of the game, if it is not balanced then fix it so it's part of the game. If not then completely seperate all PvP with PvE. Not seperate some PvP from other PvP. Distinctions like that make them seem like they have no clue no plan no care.
I haven't been involved too terribly long here - my first thought about skills is why don't they just have a new PVP skill line and a PVE skill line, which work only in their respective areas. Then they can figure out PVP balance.
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✭✭✭Poisons (any and all of them).I think a no CP battleground will be a test for the possibility of switching the campaigns around - one CP camp and the rest no CP. I doubt they will eliminate CP altogether for PvP. It could be their way of nudging players towards no CP after BG fever wears off like dueling did, and people go back to previous PvP habits.Fear is the Mindkiller0