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Soul Harvest or Incap for magblade in no - CP land?
CavalryPK
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I was thinking that as a magblade your soul harvest takes advantage from your CP points.. there for as a magblade you would always chose soul harvest over Incap. However i am not sure if it is different when you are in Azura Star.
Since ult damage scales of the highest stat... and for magblade you highest stat is your magicka.... would it not makes sense to choose incap over soul harvest in no cp campaign ?
Any input would be appreciated. thanks.
Edited by CavalryPK on March 29, 2017 8:01PM Since ult damage scales of the highest stat... and for magblade you highest stat is your magicka.... would it not makes sense to choose incap over soul harvest in no cp campaign ?
Any input would be appreciated. thanks.
THE CAVELRY HAS ARRIVED! Cav is a professional magblade, (in his not so professional opinion). He is immortal and is fighting for the Pact since 2E 572, amidst the turmoil of the Second Akaviri Invasion. He protects the provinces of Skyrim, Morrowind and Black Marsh.
Check out his PVP YouTube channel !
https://youtube.com/TheCavalryPK
Check out his PVP YouTube channel !
https://youtube.com/TheCavalryPK
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laksikus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »Definitely not. Hitting your opponent with soul harvest first, and then using Mass Hysteria is way more effective than Mass Hysteria then Incap. There was a reason why every stamblade used soul harvest back in the day.
I see.... soo you do soul harvest. then you have a 6 second window to fear and assassins will. which is the highest burst potential ....
My initial thought was to avoid the fear then harvest then will combo.
as far as i know incap and soul harvest do the same damage with your gear, with incap having the better debuffs.
for burst combo i would rather go with mass hysteria then incap then assassins proc.
that way your opponent cant block any of them5
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laksikus✭✭✭✭✭
✭depends on the gear sets you use.
Yes ultis scale of the higher stat pool, but it doesnt scale with your penetration.
So if you use spinners soul harvest will be better than incap1 -
Strider_Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Definitely not. Hitting your opponent with soul harvest first, and then using Mass Hysteria is way more effective than Mass Hysteria then Incap. There was a reason why every stamblade used soul harvest back in the day.0 -
CavalryPK✭✭✭✭✭ok. here is my set up. 5x juliano fire staff, 5x transmutation (rings) resto, 1 kena , 1 chokothorn. Destro is sharp. and i also use mark target. 5 x heavy 2 x light
Edited by CavalryPK on March 29, 2017 8:08PMTHE CAVELRY HAS ARRIVED! Cav is a professional magblade, (in his not so professional opinion). He is immortal and is fighting for the Pact since 2E 572, amidst the turmoil of the Second Akaviri Invasion. He protects the provinces of Skyrim, Morrowind and Black Marsh.
Check out his PVP YouTube channel !
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CavalryPK✭✭✭✭✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »Definitely not. Hitting your opponent with soul harvest first, and then using Mass Hysteria is way more effective than Mass Hysteria then Incap. There was a reason why every stamblade used soul harvest back in the day.
I see.... soo you do soul harvest. then you have a 6 second window to fear and assassins will. which is the highest burst potential ....
My initial thought was to avoid the fear then harvest then will combo.THE CAVELRY HAS ARRIVED! Cav is a professional magblade, (in his not so professional opinion). He is immortal and is fighting for the Pact since 2E 572, amidst the turmoil of the Second Akaviri Invasion. He protects the provinces of Skyrim, Morrowind and Black Marsh.
Check out his PVP YouTube channel !
https://youtube.com/TheCavalryPK0 -
Strider_Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »Definitely not. Hitting your opponent with soul harvest first, and then using Mass Hysteria is way more effective than Mass Hysteria then Incap. There was a reason why every stamblade used soul harvest back in the day.
I see.... soo you do soul harvest. then you have a 6 second window to fear and assassins will. which is the highest burst potential ....
My initial thought was to avoid the fear then harvest then will combo.
as far as i know incap and soul harvest do the same damage with your gear, with incap having the better debuffs.
for burst combo i would rather go with mass hysteria then incap then assassins proc.
that way your opponent cant block any of them
Sounds ideal, but against any experienced individual you'll miss that spectral bow shot. As a stamblade I shoot the spectral bow first then Mass Hysteria into Incap. If I were on my magblade I would Soul Harvest then Mass Hysteria to spectral bow. That CC will give you one free shot against an experienced player; not two.0 -
NeillMcAttack✭✭✭✭✭
✭You could totlally do that! You could even run dawnbreaker, but you would lose crit damage passive for weapon damage, but gain damage against vamps.
Anyway, it's gonna be a simple trade off of a stun for a passive ulti-gen on kills. Unless I'm missing something of course. Do you really need the stun of you already open with concealed weapon from stealth? Will you mainly be using it after you fear them to guarantee they don't dodge it?PC EU - NoCP PvP, is real PvPTiidehunter Nord StamDK EP PvP MainLegion Commander Tresdin Stamplar DC PvE MainSephirith Altmer MagPlar EP Gondar the Bounty Hunter Khajiit StamBlade DCThe Dirge Redguard StamNecro EP Disruptor Stormcrafter Nord StamSorc ADLone Druid Bosmer Stam Warden EP Necro-Phos Argonian MagBlade AD@ McAttack in gamePlayed since beta, and then on console at release, until the game became unplayable on console.0 -
CavalryPK✭✭✭✭✭NeillMcAttack wrote: »You could totlally do that! You could even run dawnbreaker, but you would lose crit damage passive for weapon damage, but gain damage against vamps.
Anyway, it's gonna be a simple trade off of a stun for a passive ulti-gen on kills. Unless I'm missing something of course. Do you really need the stun of you already open with concealed weapon from stealth? Will you mainly be using it after you fear them to guarantee they don't dodge it?
well i don't really use Concealed weapon. my set up is a destro/resto set up. my only CC is Mass Hysteria.
My initial thought was to have Incap. so i could CC then shoot the Assassins Will. however some posts here suggest that i should to soul harvest then mass hysteria then Assassins will, to which i dont mind. however.... i feel like incap + will combo will be burstier and faster vs harvest + fear + will
THE CAVELRY HAS ARRIVED! Cav is a professional magblade, (in his not so professional opinion). He is immortal and is fighting for the Pact since 2E 572, amidst the turmoil of the Second Akaviri Invasion. He protects the provinces of Skyrim, Morrowind and Black Marsh.
Check out his PVP YouTube channel !
https://youtube.com/TheCavalryPK0 -
Strider_Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭NeillMcAttack wrote: »You could totlally do that! You could even run dawnbreaker, but you would lose crit damage passive for weapon damage, but gain damage against vamps.
Anyway, it's gonna be a simple trade off of a stun for a passive ulti-gen on kills. Unless I'm missing something of course. Do you really need the stun of you already open with concealed weapon from stealth? Will you mainly be using it after you fear them to guarantee they don't dodge it?
well i don't really use Concealed weapon. my set up is a destro/resto set up. my only CC is Mass Hysteria.
My initial thought was to have Incap. so i could CC then shoot the Assassins Will. however some posts here suggest that i should to soul harvest then mass hysteria then Assassins will, to which i dont mind. however.... i feel like incap + will combo will be burstier and faster vs harvest + fear + will
It would be faster, but the damage wouldn't be any different. The nice thing about Mass Hysteria is that if they survive the combo (which they probably will) their damage, and movement is debuffed.1 -
Berenhir✭✭✭✭✭
✭I was thinking that as a magblade your soul harvest takes advantage from your CP points.. there for as a magblade you would always chose soul harvest over Incap. However i am not sure if it is different when you are in Azura Star.
Since ult damage scales of the highest stat... and for magblade you highest stat is your magicka.... would it not makes sense to choose incap over soul harvest in no cp campaign ?
Any input would be appreciated. thanks.
You don't have the spell penetration nor the spell crit when using incap as a magblade. So no, not an option.PC EU - Ebonheart Pact - Gray Host - Death Recap -#zergfarming -0 -
laksikus✭✭✭✭✭
✭I was thinking that as a magblade your soul harvest takes advantage from your CP points.. there for as a magblade you would always chose soul harvest over Incap. However i am not sure if it is different when you are in Azura Star.
Since ult damage scales of the highest stat... and for magblade you highest stat is your magicka.... would it not makes sense to choose incap over soul harvest in no cp campaign ?
Any input would be appreciated. thanks.
You don't have the spell penetration nor the spell crit when using incap as a magblade. So no, not an option.
Where exactly would you miss The spelldamage on incap as magblade?
He doenst use spinner so physical and spell pen are the same0 -
CavalryPK✭✭✭✭✭I was thinking that as a magblade your soul harvest takes advantage from your CP points.. there for as a magblade you would always chose soul harvest over Incap. However i am not sure if it is different when you are in Azura Star.
Since ult damage scales of the highest stat... and for magblade you highest stat is your magicka.... would it not makes sense to choose incap over soul harvest in no cp campaign ?
Any input would be appreciated. thanks.
You don't have the spell penetration nor the spell crit when using incap as a magblade. So no, not an option.
yeh i am not sure i follow. can you elaborate ?
Thanks,THE CAVELRY HAS ARRIVED! Cav is a professional magblade, (in his not so professional opinion). He is immortal and is fighting for the Pact since 2E 572, amidst the turmoil of the Second Akaviri Invasion. He protects the provinces of Skyrim, Morrowind and Black Marsh.
Check out his PVP YouTube channel !
https://youtube.com/TheCavalryPK0