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Once the warden class is released... The BIS Gear

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I was wondering if it's worth saving the Ysgramor's Birthright drops for my magicka future Warden? Would this be the new BIS gear the class?

http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Ysgramor's+Birthright+Set
  • whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO
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    I was wondering if it's worth saving the Ysgramor's Birthright drops for my magicka future Warden? Would this be the new BIS gear the class?

    http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Ysgramor's+Birthright+Set

    I already picked that up, full armor and Jewelry and weapons (physical and magic weapons= bow, 2h and resto/destro staves) to use..

    and picked up full armor and Jewelry for this set as well...

    http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Robes+of+Alteration+Mastery+Set

    as a Alternate for a Hybrid, or wear both :wink:

    Gonna need that cost reduction when Warlord and Magician get removed from CP ...
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  • DPShiro
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    The BiS for all classes will be from all the new sets included in Vvardenfell expansion.
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  • Enslaved
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    I think I will make my mWar Dunmer. So, one set will be BSW, for sure. Ysgramor might be ok for that, but I would like to try it with Necropotence. Monster set - Grothdarr.
  • IcyDeadPeople
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    I think there will be a few different ways to play warden class.

    For example there is some AOE damage ability that scales on max health, plus the bear ultimate would scale on highest stat, so you could run 80k health (imperial) using plague doctor, green pact, various monster helms, either just for max health or something like troll king, pirate skeleton, slimecraw etc
    Edited by IcyDeadPeople on March 27, 2017 11:11AM
  • KochDerDamonen
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    No way to know without having everythin in-hand to test, but IIRC they're saying the pets are expected to be the dps loadout. We'll see :p
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  • FerrumnCutem
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  • Absalon
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    Winterborn > Ysgramor's Birthright, after cp nerf.
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  • VarilRau
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    Just as BiS as the Netch set is for sorcerers or the fire one for DK's. So not at all. BSW still gives you 600 spell damage to all skills with a good uptime.
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  • Izaki
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    Well considering that none of the Frost damage skills actually scale with magicka or spell damage, Ysgramor set will still be useless. Yeah, Idk why all the Frost skills scale off health, but they do.
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  • Didaco
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    Well considering that none of the Frost damage skills actually scale with magicka or spell damage, Ysgramor set will still be useless. Yeah, Idk why all the Frost skills scale off health, but they do.

    Imho Zos' gonna roll a skill overhaul of the current classes too, making them scale off of health.

    They said they want to discourage stacking everything into one main pool, and make health more relevant.
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    We know almost nothing at this point. We know only that warden will be a tank / healer oriented class.
    We don't know also if "DPS" builds for warden will be better with stamina or magicka.

    It is "possible" that Ysgramor's Birthright will be a good set but only for warden.. bu it is not 100% certain information.
    http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Ysgramor's+Birthright+Set
  • Izaki
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    We know almost nothing at this point. We know only that warden will be a tank / healer oriented class.
    We don't know also if "DPS" builds for warden will be better with stamina or magicka.

    It is "possible" that Ysgramor's Birthright will be a good set but only for warden.. bu it is not 100% certain information.
    http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Ysgramor's+Birthright+Set
    Well considering that none of the Frost damage skills actually scale with magicka or spell damage, Ysgramor set will still be useless. Yeah, Idk why all the Frost skills scale off health, but they do.

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  • Troneon
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    The fake expansion DLC will have all the bis sets / gear and warden will OP for 6 months on purpose until they nerf it....

    This is ZO$ were dealing with remember...

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  • Vipstaakki
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    Troneon wrote: »
    The fake expansion DLC will have all the bis sets / gear and warden will OP for 6 months on purpose until they nerf it....

    This is ZO$ were dealing with remember...

    It is ZOS not ZO$. Get over it.
    Edited by Vipstaakki on March 27, 2017 12:49PM
  • LadyLavina
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    Green Pact + Plague Doctor + Damage Scaled by Health hilarity.
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  • Lynx7386
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    Here's my question: all of the damage dealing frost spells the warden has say that they scale with max health. Does that mean spell power will have no effect on them, or does it mean that the formula is spell power plus health instead of spell power plus magicka?

    My plan for a hybrid warden tank is 5pc dreugh king slayer for major brutality and weapon damage with 5 piece rattlecage for major sorcery and spell damage. Combined with either selenes or iceheart monster sets depending on solo vs group content. Going to use a 1h and shield front bar and frost staff back bar with the frost staff mostly being for aoe packs (blockade plus ice shards to chill, snare, and maim groups).

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  • Troneon
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    Vipstaakki wrote: »
    Troneon wrote: »
    The fake expansion DLC will have all the bis sets / gear and warden will OP for 6 months on purpose until they nerf it....

    This is ZO$ were dealing with remember...

    It is ZOS not ZO$. Get over it.

    I will correct myself, thanks.

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  • grannas211
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    probably BSW with moondancer and inferno staves...I kid

    but probably though
  • luen79rwb17_ESO
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    Hmm since Warden is like a mix of everything that set can actually be useful.

    Even the health bonus will add to some of the winter's embrace skills.

    That's also the reason why I'm leaning towards Orc as the class for stam based Warden but we'll hace to wait and see. Hopefully next ESO live will show us both stam/mag Wardens.
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  • Lord_Eomer
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    Morrowind will release with new Sets, be prepare to grind!

    They may be better than existing sets!
    Edited by Lord_Eomer on March 27, 2017 3:46PM
  • zaria
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    DPShiro wrote: »
    The BiS for all classes will be from all the new sets included in Vvardenfell expansion.
    No new dungeons in Morrowind, we will get trial gear and new crafted and overland one.

    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Kay1
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    No, for PvE it will never be a true DPS, it will be a DPS Support like many Guild Wars classes (Zenimax is taking a lot of ideas from that game recently) and in PvP it will be another class to zerg because I don't see any type of escape or solo capabilities and that ends up in a class abused by zergs.

    You will definitely see me doing 1vX as a StamWard the first week but I still dont know how and with what because without the morphs is pretty hard to theorycraft oh and we all forgot that a loooot of new sets are coming from both BG and Dungeons so hopefully they datamine the sets and morphs so we can start creating the meta :wink:
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  • DMuehlhausen
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    DPShiro wrote: »
    The BiS for all classes will be from all the new sets included in Vvardenfell expansion.

    That might not be true. Since they may not be upping the gear level you can't really be sure what will be BiS. In other MMOs where every expansion, or even some DLC up the gear level then yes the new stuff is always going to be better. Here though items like SPC might always be the best no matter how many expansions they release.
  • Oompuh
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    Since all the pets are based off of magic damage, Ice damage will be useless. There are very few damage abilites that scale off ice, unlike the DK which is all fire damage.

    The meta wont change unless new sets come in Vvardenfell, get your BSW and TFS ready
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