[REQUEST] Please nerf RACIAL passives
Erekon
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In my opinion, racial passives defeat the sole purpose of "play how you want" which is what ESO is famous for.
I'm sick n tired of seeing Altmer/Dunmer for Mag DPS and Khajit for Stam DPS and so on... ( You get the point, right?). It would be great if there were absolutely NO RACIAL PASSIVES.
Nord mages, high elf warriors
would be fun, wouldn't it? At this moment, this game has a very streamlined approach. It boasts of diversity in playstyle but I don't really see it. I know 98% of the game can be played whichever way you wish to but really? Who are we kidding? The remaining 2% is what most people do. And what matters to most people actually. The remaining 2% is what makes this game an MMO.
I'm sick n tired of seeing Altmer/Dunmer for Mag DPS and Khajit for Stam DPS and so on... ( You get the point, right?). It would be great if there were absolutely NO RACIAL PASSIVES.
Nord mages, high elf warriors
would be fun, wouldn't it? At this moment, this game has a very streamlined approach. It boasts of diversity in playstyle but I don't really see it. I know 98% of the game can be played whichever way you wish to but really? Who are we kidding? The remaining 2% is what most people do. And what matters to most people actually. The remaining 2% is what makes this game an MMO.24
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Firerock2✭✭✭✭✭I always hear that "play how you want" phrase. Where did it come from? That's not what the game is. However, I'm in total agreement. Racial passive were a poor idea. You should just be able to assign whatever group of 3 passive to any race, for FREEEdited by Firerock2 on March 25, 2017 7:51PM17 -
Ghettokid✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ok? In that case nerf also class passives.
(Answer is NO)Edited by Ghettokid on March 25, 2017 7:53PM5 -
Mashille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I think we should just remove passives altogether, everything just forces people into roles they don't want to play...Edited by Mashille on March 25, 2017 9:25PMHouse Baratheon: 'Ours Is The Fury'14 -
Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Racial passive hardly matter vs player skill, yes you will be "better" with them if you're really going min/max or leaderboards, if you're just looking to clear all content in the game, and play PvP well it shouldn't matter.
If you're looking for leaderboard then it's not just passives you have to submit to for being the best.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."3 -
Chilly-McFreeze✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭And again: sure you don't want a magicka based CoD it you dislike the rp aspect of a rpg?3 -
Magdalina✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭We can also just remove all the class skills and passives along with armor sets and give everyone a set of same skills/passives and some bland armor like Trainee(because it benefits any build). That's it. Everyone is equal, everyone can play how they want.
...sounds a bit boring though, don't you think?4 -
SJD_Phoenix✭✭✭I'm actually gonna have some intelligent input here.
You can play any race as any type of character, magicka or Stam, tank, heals or dps, and complete all the content.
Complete.
A khajit Templar could heal a veteran trial.
For the small percentage that want leaderboard scores yes you have to have the optimal race, but that's the minority.
I'm sorry. It if you're struggling to complete content it's not your race, it's you.28 -
Molydeus✭✭✭✭✭
✭I play a Breton magsorc because I like Bretons and DC lore and I don't like elves. I don't care that they are slightly less BiS than Altmer/Dunmer--I challenge anyone to run content with me and complain that I'm not putting out enough dps.7 -
Doctordarkspawn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭In my opinion, racial passives defeat the sole purpose of "play how you want" which is what ESO is famous for.
I'm sick n tired of seeing Altmer/Dunmer for Mag DPS and Khajit for Stam DPS and so on... ( You get the point, right?). It would be great if there were absolutely NO RACIAL PASSIVES.
Nord mages, high elf warriors would be fun, wouldn't it? At this moment, this game has a very streamlined approach. It boasts of diversity in playstyle but I don't really see it. I know 98% of the game can be played whichever way you wish to but really? Who are we kidding? The remaining 2% is what most people do. And what matters to most people actually. The remaining 2% is what makes this game an MMO.
It never -as- famous for it.
It's famous for that bold-faced lie in how untrue it is.2 -
LadyLavina✭✭✭✭✭
✭In my opinion, racial passives defeat the sole purpose of "play how you want" which is what ESO is famous for.
I'm sick n tired of seeing Altmer/Dunmer for Mag DPS and Khajit for Stam DPS and so on... ( You get the point, right?). It would be great if there were absolutely NO RACIAL PASSIVES.
Nord mages, high elf warriors would be fun, wouldn't it? At this moment, this game has a very streamlined approach. It boasts of diversity in playstyle but I don't really see it. I know 98% of the game can be played whichever way you wish to but really? Who are we kidding? The remaining 2% is what most people do. And what matters to most people actually. The remaining 2% is what makes this game an MMO.
better nerf class passives and everything else.
people need to stop over thinking. racial passives only matter for min/maxersEdited by LadyLavina on March 25, 2017 8:34PMPC - NA @LadyLavina 1800+ CP PvP Tank and PvP Healer1 -
Ulfberht✭✭We can also just remove all the class skills and passives along with armor sets and give everyone a set of same skills/passives and some bland armor like Trainee(because it benefits any build). That's it. Everyone is equal, everyone can play how they want.
...sounds a bit boring though, don't you think?
This is pretty much what EverQuest 2 did years ago and it ruined the game. Every class is essentially the same, same skills just different names and effects for them.
I like a game that has some diversity to it. I don't care about small gains from racial passives, I like that different races are naturally better at some things. It by no means restricts me from playing the combination that I enjoy.
My Nord sorcerer (frost staff) is my favorite character to play.2 -
Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I play a Breton magsorc because I like Bretons and DC lore and I don't like elves. I don't care that they are slightly less BiS than Altmer/Dunmer--I challenge anyone to run content with me and complain that I'm not putting out enough dps.
Bretons are a BIS magsorc race already, we're talking about Nord magsorcs and Altmer stam DK's.
Besides. Next patch with Magician CP removed, that Breton 3% cost reduction is going to look a LOT better.
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usmcjdking✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭All the damage amps for racials need to go out the window and replaced with something less effective.0331
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Floki_Vilgerdarson✭✭✭✭I loved Skyrim where any race could do anything.
If you really want diversity in builds, let us select 3 skill lines from any of the classes and combine them to make our custom toons.
Thank You,
FlokiEdited by Floki_Vilgerdarson on March 25, 2017 8:56PM4 -
TheShadowScout✭✭✭✭✭
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Agreed.Lore supports racial passives as well so no
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How-ever...
...lore does not say what way they should take. It only says that some races are naturally "gifted" warriors, or in handling magica... but not exactly how m uch that realy counts for in the face of the whole "nature vs. nurture" debate when you add lifelong training into the mix as well...
The best suggestion I found was to change the current attribute-percentile passives into flat amounts. Meaning they would have a much greater effect for lower level characters, but not nearly as much in the endgame.
Another good idea would be to add some ceiling to attribute effect again - races with a bonus would then just reach that ceiling sooner, and not have an eternal advantage over everyone else...
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klowdy1✭✭✭✭✭I think it would be cool to choose from all the passive (3 or 4, whatever is deemed suitable), and have them separated into different categories, with only being able to choose 1 or 2 from each category. I think it would cause specific setups for sure, but it would allow people to play the race they want, and may give way to some different builds.1 -
DerAlleinTiger✭✭✭✭✭
That was the tagline of the game leading up to launch, or at least the one I kept hearing. The fact you say "That's not what this game is" speaks volumes for how well they pulled it off. In my own circle of friends, it's almost become sort of a meme because of just how poorly the game represents the idea of 'play how you want.' "Play how you want... so long as it's the meta."I always hear that "play how you want" phrase. Where did it come from?
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notimetocare✭✭✭✭✭
✭I have a khajiit sorc. Still able to do vMA in 50 minutes with cheap and easy gear. You were saying?7 -
notimetocare✭✭✭✭✭
✭DerAlleinTiger wrote: »
That was the tagline of the game leading up to launch, or at least the one I kept hearing. The fact you say "That's not what this game is" speaks volumes for how well they pulled it off. In my own circle of friends, it's almost become sort of a meme because of just how poorly the game represents the idea of 'play how you want.' "Play how you want... so long as it's the meta."I always hear that "play how you want" phrase. Where did it come from?
Only idiots see 'play as you want' to mean 'everything is the best'. There is very little you can't do in this game. You can play as you want, but don;t expect other people to want you to slow them down or to be able to beat the hardest content in the game playing a heavy armor, hybrid, argonian sorc.7 -
Molydeus✭✭✭✭✭
✭I play a Breton magsorc because I like Bretons and DC lore and I don't like elves. I don't care that they are slightly less BiS than Altmer/Dunmer--I challenge anyone to run content with me and complain that I'm not putting out enough dps.
Bretons are a BIS magsorc race already, we're talking about Nord magsorcs and Altmer stam DK's.
Besides. Next patch with Magician CP removed, that Breton 3% cost reduction is going to look a LOT better.
True, 3% will look much more significant when all CP reduction passives are gone.0 -
Betsararie✭✭✭✭✭
✭I can't tell you how much this would ruin everything.
I'm so glad people like this don't have decision making authority within the game.
Hey OP, your ideas are terrible.6 -
Ihatenightblades✭✭✭✭✭
✭In my opinion, racial passives defeat the sole purpose of "play how you want" which is what ESO is famous for.
I'm sick n tired of seeing Altmer/Dunmer for Mag DPS and Khajit for Stam DPS and so on... ( You get the point, right?). It would be great if there were absolutely NO RACIAL PASSIVES.
Nord mages, high elf warriors would be fun, wouldn't it? At this moment, this game has a very streamlined approach. It boasts of diversity in playstyle but I don't really see it. I know 98% of the game can be played whichever way you wish to but really? Who are we kidding? The remaining 2% is what most people do. And what matters to most people actually. The remaining 2% is what makes this game an MMO.
Dude...No2
