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Anyone Else a Filthy Casual?

Rainwhisper
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I always find myself intimidated when I come to the forums to look at character builds and play strategies. There are a ton of acronyms, and assumptions about synergies between default builds and armor set combos, that are completely foreign to me.

I've played since beta, with some long breaks, and had a great time, without really obsessing over my builds. I've simply found skills that interested me, morphs that seemed logically complimentary, and played how I wanted to play. For a while I was a Dragonknight with a two-handed sword and heavy armor, who used crowd control to survive. Then I became a dual-wielding fireknight who occasionally took out things from a distance, with his bow. I've leveled every single class and weapon skill to at least being morphed (and most of them have a morph at rank four), and I have a ridiculous number of skillpoints to play around with various combos, as the mood suits me. I'm also, finally, leveling alts, again simply using the playstyles that interest me.

I don't PvP, and I don't do veteran content, although I may stick my toe in with tanking some if I can find non-obsessive groups who want me. Even still, there always seems to be something to do and something to hold my interest, and I've never felt like my survivability or viability was gimped. Mind you, I don't randomly pick and combine skills. There's always a coherent logic to how I set up my bar (usually, in order, a direct-damage, a damage-over-time, a self-heal, an opener or utility skill, and an AoE on the main bar), and I put some thought into how I want to play. I don't, however, obsess over min/maxing.

There's nothing wrong with min/maxing, and my closest MMO friend does it almost obsessively. I'm just grateful that ESO gives me plenty of ways to enjoy the game without needing to.

Often I feel like a minority here on the forums. Are there other folks with a similar approach?
  • Betsararie
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    You sound like the quintessential casual. Which isn't a bad thing

    What helped me to become somewhat educated on the game is spending hours reading about it, and trying to absorb all the information.

    But I think people should do whatever they enjoy in the game
  • Rainwhisper
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    Blanco wrote: »
    What helped me to become somewhat educated on the game is spending hours reading about it, and trying to absorb all the information.

    I fully recognize that's an option, and I've done it for games before, but I do plenty of that for my day job. I enjoy just relaxing and simply playing the game. I don't want to think too long about nuanced strategies. I just want to wander around the game world, read interesting quests, meet interesting people, then log out when I'm done :D

  • SirAndy
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    Anyone Else a Filthy Casual?
    I'm rather clean, actually ...
    :smile:
  • Betsararie
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    Blanco wrote: »
    What helped me to become somewhat educated on the game is spending hours reading about it, and trying to absorb all the information.

    I fully recognize that's an option, and I've done it for games before, but I do plenty of that for my day job. I enjoy just relaxing and simply playing the game. I don't want to think too long about nuanced strategies. I just want to wander around the game world, read interesting quests, meet interesting people, then log out when I'm done :D
    Well naturally, there is nothing wrong with that.

    I enjoy taking my build to the furthest point possible, or at least attempting too, but that doesn't mean others have to.


  • Narvuntien
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    I like to think too long on "suboptimal" but interesting stratgies. For example i am currently running The Onslaught one shot build and the long range sniper build together as one.

    Typically the forum is just the tip of the ice berg of players, and often the most educated and informed players and not the rest of the player base.
  • darthsithis
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    Casual can mean disenchanted haha. I used to do elite competitive trials guilds and all that crap, but now I just hang out with friends and help them with stuff (made a guild for casual players to have access to an environment that can prepare them for the lingo, etiquette, builds, and mechanics of elitist endgame stuff if they want) We are patient and never force ppl to do stuff- but rather we craft free gear, level with you, provide mats, and do dungeons to help others learn mechanics. Or just talk in chat about eso and how you can have fun on a magicka dual wield nightblade light armor tank sap tank and how no one should judge you for having fun.

    Message for an invite! No dues, free stuff, good people, and the opportunity to hang around former-endgame players who would rather hang around the guild hall and talk about lore, life, homes and halls, or dungeons then deal with 'serious' players. when trials began to feel like a chore and had too much drama, I became a casual.

    Anyways, I got my flawless conqueror and all trials but vmol, and now I just farm for my guild, hang out with friends, organize creative events, while trying to make my guild a place where dps times only matter if they matter to you! Casual endgame trumps raid drama in this current stage of my eso career.
    Edited by darthsithis on March 25, 2017 12:39PM
    Message me if you want to do trials/dungeons, or need a trading guild! Flawless conqueror magsorc with a bad sense of armor fashion.
  • AcadianPaladin
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    Casual is not a term I would use for my character as I've been playing her from game to game for decades. We typically get deeply into one game and stay there for years. Currently that is ESO. I'd like to say my knowledge of the game is decent but I learned long ago to not bother with things that don't interest my character. And after playing her for years, I know exactly what her interests are.

    In ESO have no interest in PvP or 'elite' content. That frees me from fretting over 'best in slot' gear and builds.

    Though my character is a Bosmer magplar wearing Seducerx5 and Robes of the Hist Sapx5, she is a darn good healer because we are well-studied and practiced regarding her skills and compensating for her limitations. Quest content, delves, public dungeons are no problem, as are delves and public dungeons. With patience and effort she can solo a dolmen. She has, on occasion been able to solo a wb. I consider that fine for a character who runs only 2 purely offensive skills (sweeps and radiant glory), 2 damage/support skills and 6 support skills.

    I guess the way I think of her is very carefully built and trained but we simply avoid elite aspirations which frees us from farming best in slot gear or min/maxing and it allows us to account for my character's preferences and quirks.
    Edited by AcadianPaladin on March 25, 2017 12:36PM
    PC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo
  • Turelus
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    I'm a casual, but I generally wash. Being filthy means smelling bad. :confused:
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    "Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."
  • darthsithis
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    You can have a lot of fun making atypical builds! So many combinations that work, some are a blast. Go be most creative instead of best in slot lol
    Message me if you want to do trials/dungeons, or need a trading guild! Flawless conqueror magsorc with a bad sense of armor fashion.
  • adriant1978
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    Well... my characters include such min-maxed marvels as a Bosmer MagSorc and a heavy armored Breton StamSorc, and I've had fun playing both. I also can't animation cancel and I don't think my DPS has ever gone about about 12k even on my (somewhat) more optimized Altmer.

    Probably makes me a casual of the worst kind but I still love this game. :)
    Edited by adriant1978 on March 25, 2017 3:01PM
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    I try to be casual but the stupid min/maxer creeps up and I find myself with sharpened weapons and optimized set builds even on my mediocre classes . Then I do something weird so I'm not meta .

    Then the ADD distracts me and I grind up gold and play the market till I own too many properties and find myself decorating for days . Then I find new enjoyment in dungeons and find myself min / maxing a PVE set ... I have to force myself to go fishing and accomplish nothing but end up with a bunch of perfect roe and have to make bear hunch and then get sucked back into the market ...

    One of these days I'm going to play with no agenda like a true casual !
  • SirAndy
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    One of these days I'm going to play with no agenda like a true casual !
    Casuals have an agenda. They have aim and goals, just like everyone else.

    Their goals are just different from the rather narrow path of hunting the elusive min/max BiS ...
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  • Rouven
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    RNG give me the strength to farm the things I can,
    the stealth to avoid the bosses I can't kill,
    and the loading screen to know the difference.

    Edit: Typical typos.
    Edited by Rouven on March 25, 2017 3:24PM
    Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time. ~ Terry Pratchett
  • TheNuminous1
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    I try to be casual but the stupid min/maxer creeps up and I find myself with sharpened weapons and optimized set builds even on my mediocre classes . Then I do something weird so I'm not meta .

    Then the ADD distracts me and I grind up gold and play the market till I own too many properties and find myself decorating for days . Then I find new enjoyment in dungeons and find myself min / maxing a PVE set ... I have to force myself to go fishing and accomplish nothing but end up with a bunch of perfect roe and have to make bear hunch and then get sucked back into the market ...

    One of these days I'm going to play with no agenda like a true casual !

    Omg I do all this.farm gear one day, farm mats another, get into the market get rich, blow it all, spend 3 days obsessing over my new house, fish, farm more mats, give farming sharp weapons another run. Do the jester fest, daily writs daily writs daily writs. It never endddsss
  • Ghanima_Atreides
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    I can't min-max. I don't have the patience to grind for BiS gear, chase the maximum amount of CP in the minimum amount of time and refine my rotations for optimal DPS. When choosing gear requires a spreadsheet, my eyes start to glaze over.

    That isn't to say I am completely careless in my gameplay or choose skills at random. Not at all, I just don't elevate it to a science...ironically, my most min-maxed character is an Imperial MagSorc, which by default makes her sub-optimal. :tongue:
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  • Arthg
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    You don't see any of the so-called "hardcore gamers" call themselves "arrogant nolifers".
    Why give yourself such a demeaning title?
    PC/EU. NoCP PvP. sDK Orc IRL. Flawless tamperor. Pro scrub.
  • DocFrost72
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    Wood elf magicka nightblade DPS? Yeah, probably a casual here.
  • DarkMatter909
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    I'm a hardcore player trapped in the playing time of a casual.
    There are other worlds than these.
  • Rainwhisper
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    Arthg wrote: »
    You don't see any of the so-called "hardcore gamers" call themselves "arrogant nolifers".
    Why give yourself such a demeaning title?

    I assure you, I meant it completely tongue-in-cheek.
  • Browiseth
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    nothing wrong with being a plebian casual, just do your best to avoid building up pride over it like i see a lot of newbies do
    skingrad when zoscharacters:
    • EP - M - Strikes-with-Arcane - Argonian Stamina Sorc - lvl 50 - The Flawless Conqueror/Spirit Slayer
    • EP - F - Melina Elinia - Dunmer Magicka Dragonknight - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Sinnia Lavellan - Altmer Warden Healer - lvl 50
    • EP - M - Follows-the-Arcane - Argonian Healer Sorcerer- lvl 50
    • EP - F - Ashes-of-Arcane - Argonian Magicka Necromancer - lvl 50
    • EP - M - Bolgrog the Sinh - Orc Stamina Dragonknight - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Moonlight Maiden - Altmer Magicka Templar - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Maxine Cauline - Breton Magicka Nightblade - lvl 50
    • EP - M - Garrus Loridius - Imperial Stamina Templar - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Jennifer Loridius - Imperial Necromancer tank - lvl 50
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  • geonsocal
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    i like to play at a very "casual" pace - otherwise i'm sure i would start getting burnt out and have to resort to coming to the forums to rant and rage :)

    for a long time I intentionally avoided the whole meta build thing...getting my butt kicked a bunch in imperial city kinda cured me of that...

    my playstyle and attitude are most definitely along the casual line - however, my builds are coming more in line with the min/max folks...

    hurt my pride for a while to go in that direction, but, makes the game easier (and more relaxing) for PvP and dungeons...
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  • lynzriches
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    *Raises hand* Casual player who's been around since beta here, too! Lots of end game content I've not completed and likely won't and I'm ok with that.
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  • Sneaky-Snurr
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    Turelus wrote: »
    I'm a casual, but I generally wash. Being filthy means smelling bad. :confused:
    @Turelus
    This can't be true! D:
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  • Turelus
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    Turelus wrote: »
    I'm a casual, but I generally wash. Being filthy means smelling bad. :confused:
    Turelus
    This can't be true! D:
    @Sneaky-Snurr I played hardcore in a PvP guild for a about two years, now I just want to log in and do something chill after work.
    I think it somewhat depends on the definition of casual I guess? I understand the mechanics and optimise builds, but I don't generally min/max and don't run with any guilds for end game content any more.

    The last months I have just been getting achievements and making some gold for my house.
    @Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
    "Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."
  • Glamdring
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    Im a casual tryharder with no chance of getting into doing endgame stuff because of fulltime job and other responsibilities.
  • malicia
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    I play casual, but am always open to advice on how to get my setup a bit better. I strolled casually into vMA, was brutally killed, and came here asking for advice. My gear isn't BiS, but the advice I received here is certainly nudging me along towards a more meta build.

    A hardcore gamer would have finished vMA long ago. I still have a long way to go before I can even try again. My pace, my choice on whether to farm or not, and if I get distracted a bit by a silly Jester's Festivaql, that's my choice too. Casual does it for me.
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    Not elite, not the best. Just enjoying ESO.
    Not the worst either. "Casual" != "totally ignorant"
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  • Sneaky-Snurr
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    Turelus wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
    I'm a casual, but I generally wash. Being filthy means smelling bad. :confused:
    Turelus
    This can't be true! D:
    @Sneaky-Snurr I played hardcore in a PvP guild for a about two years, now I just want to log in and do something chill after work.
    I think it somewhat depends on the definition of casual I guess? I understand the mechanics and optimise builds, but I don't generally min/max and don't run with any guilds for end game content any more.

    The last months I have just been getting achievements and making some gold for my house.
    @Turelus
    Ah okay. because from your previous posts you definitely don't come across as a clean and spotless casual. :p
    The Order of the Shadows: Nightmare
      EP CP810 Nightblade
      AD CP810 Templar
      AD CP810 Dragon Knight
      AD Lvl 25 Sorceror
      DC Lvl 23 Nightblade
    {PC•NA•no-CP Ravenwatch}

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    There is no clean fight in a war. -Shun Izaki
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