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Undaunted chests are the worst part of ESO !
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ChuckyPayne✭✭✭✭Yes rng, but the situation is much better than before.
- There is LFG tool
- You can share your loot
- more keys / day
- 3 chest instead of 1.
You are wrong. The worst part of ESO is ZOS build content for a few hundred players, and they build it for animation cancel (Veteran trials). And now reduce cost CP say goodbye.
This is the worst part. Find players raise them, teach them for a very long time, and finally when they finished and we have chance again try vet trials, reduce cost nerf is coming. So much effort and we are still in the same place.
But at least we have training dummy, begginers can learn for many weeks what is it the anim cancel.0 -
XGCAlbatr0ss✭✭✭I'm guessing you haven't done vMSA yet for your sharp flame staff...
Even for just a flake staff in general with a crap trait. That's all I've been looking for in vMA is just a inferno staff ANY trait. 50+ runs and not a single inferno. Countless Restos and ice staves but nothing inferno. Ridiculous.
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Prof_Bawbag✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭One thing I've learned since doing pledges is both the loot and dungeons are heavily skewed towards 4 traits, Well-Fitted, Infused, Reinforced and Prosperous.
Yeah, yeah, yeah 'tis all rng, but rng heavily in favour of those 3 or 4 traits, especially well-fitted and prosperous.Edited by Prof_Bawbag on March 22, 2017 7:55PM0 -
zacvanm✭✭✭Don't do vMA. Your head will explode. All that work and frustration for a training Ice staff..gtfoEP Nord StamDK PvP
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Bobby_V_Rockit✭✭✭✭✭
✭If I were to use divines instead of infused (like I currently am) it only results in 50-ish less stamina and a 0.8% crit chance increase... meh0 -
Magdalina✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Prof_Bawbag wrote: »One thing I've learned since doing pledges is both the loot and dungeons are heavily skewed towards 4 traits, Well-Fitted, Infused, Reinforced and Prosperous.
Yeah, yeah, yeah 'tis all rng, but rng heavily in favour of those 3 or 4 traits, especially well-fitted and prosperous.
That's just not true. Training topples all of those you mentioned, not to mention the other inferior traits
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✭I got 2 grothdar devines in the first 6 chests I ever opened. Now I want a selenes in anything that isn't training. Lol not sure I will ever see it.0 -
Ajaxduo✭✭✭✭✭This whole system in place for monster sets left really sour taste in my mouth, and made me dislike ESO for the first time since I started playing. Its just too much RNG involved for shoulders, I have opened dozens and dozens of chests and didn't get a single kragh piece. Its totally unfair that somebody can open one chest and get what he/she needs and somebody can open 50 chests and not get what he/she wants.
I understand that some RNG is needed in games like this, but this is excessive, especially because its time gated RNG. There is nothing worse then that in a game, and I don't know who thought that this abortion of the system is good idea. Lets compare it to for example dungeon or trial drops, yeah they are also random, but you can trade them with your teammates, you get multiple chances of getting what you want in a single run, because each boss drops a piece. And you can run it as many times as you want in a day.
But limiting rng in a way it is done in undaunted chests, its horrible. And what is the point of it, unless ZOS wants to make unlucky players angry ? Its not like they are making any money of this system, undaunted keys are not available in crown store, you cant buy additional runs in a day, its not connected to crowns in any way ( that I know of )
I ask again, what is the point of this horrible and stupid system ?
Mate, there is literally RNG in every aspect of the game. From dropped sets (dungeons, open world, maelstrom, trials...), furnishings mats, traits, tempers, etc. Yes it's purpose is to extend the lifespan of content but I agree that some aspects need to be overhauled completely, it gets to a point where you are no longer doing the content for 'fun' and instead for the specific drop. I had the same with Maelstrom Arena roughly 100 runs and never got what I wanted to so I stopped doing it. Not saying that we should cater everyone by making it a joke but there needs to be a token system/re trait system or something to balance this out.Edited by Ajaxduo on March 22, 2017 9:23PM- - -
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BlanketFort✭✭✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lol, you can get 12 x 6 keys in a day!
It should not take much time whatever u are trying to get!
Irrelevant. Not everyone has the time or desire to run alts for more pledge keys.0 -
Stannum✭✭✭✭
looks like kragh's cops is a common problem i also got only one heavy with useless trait. Don't remember how mush keys i've spent.Ep1kMalware wrote: »
220 keys got me 3 kra'gh pieces. 1 heavy training, 2 light prosperous.
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Zvorgin✭✭✭✭✭I never use keys without Treasure Hunter passive, you will get much much better sets and traits.0
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Zvorgin✭✭✭✭✭This whole system in place for monster sets left really sour taste in my mouth, and made me dislike ESO for the first time since I started playing. Its just too much RNG involved for shoulders, I have opened dozens and dozens of chests and didn't get a single kragh piece. Its totally unfair that somebody can open one chest and get what he/she needs and somebody can open 50 chests and not get what he/she wants.
I understand that some RNG is needed in games like this, but this is excessive, especially because its time gated RNG. There is nothing worse then that in a game, and I don't know who thought that this abortion of the system is good idea. Lets compare it to for example dungeon or trial drops, yeah they are also random, but you can trade them with your teammates, you get multiple chances of getting what you want in a single run, because each boss drops a piece. And you can run it as many times as you want in a day.
But limiting rng in a way it is done in undaunted chests, its horrible. And what is the point of it, unless ZOS wants to make unlucky players angry ? Its not like they are making any money of this system, undaunted keys are not available in crown store, you cant buy additional runs in a day, its not connected to crowns in any way ( that I know of )
I ask again, what is the point of this horrible and stupid system ?
Mate, there is literally RNG in every aspect of the game. From dropped sets (dungeons, open world, maelstrom, trials...), furnishings mats, traits, tempers, etc. Yes it's purpose is to extend the lifespan of content but I agree that some aspects need to be overhauled completely, it gets to a point where you are no longer doing the content for 'fun' and instead for the specific drop. I had the same with Maelstrom Arena roughly 100 runs and never got what I wanted to so I stopped doing it. Not saying that we should cater everyone by making it a joke but there needs to be a token system/re trait system or something to balance this out.
Weapons should drop from the same bosses as other items and only jewelry ad monster helms should be last boss specific. Jewelrydoesnt have traits so easier to get, although by purp BSW neck took about 40 runs and then a guildie got it out of a chest.0 -
AkhkharuSoul ShrivenI actually love it. Its a nice feel when you do get what you want. Its the same as wow but better. WOW you have to farm a dungeon over and over and get tokens. Then buy the gear when you have,enough. In ESO you could get it on the first try, it could take you months. I love it, I hate how all MMOs are the same. This system is actually awesome0
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IronCrystal✭✭✭✭✭
✭BlanketFort wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lol, you can get 12 x 6 keys in a day!
It should not take much time whatever u are trying to get!
Irrelevant. Not everyone has the time or desire to run alts for more pledge keys.
The argument is a refute to the fact the OP complained it was a time-gated rng. Also, re-running dungeons is the same way you are gonna grind for any dungeon gear.Edited by IronCrystal on March 23, 2017 4:41PMMake PC NA raiding great again!
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Draconerus✭✭✭The chests are not the worst part. RNG is what makes them suck. It is RNG that is the culprit.Draconerus
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vyncy✭✭IronCrystal wrote: »BlanketFort wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lol, you can get 12 x 6 keys in a day!
It should not take much time whatever u are trying to get!
Irrelevant. Not everyone has the time or desire to run alts for more pledge keys.
The argument is a refute to the fact the OP complained it was a time-gated rng. Also, re-running dungeons is the same way you are gonna grind for any dungeon gear.
It is time gated, because in order to run undaunted pledges you have to get a character to level 45, and no, for most people its not just couple of hours playing.
And to get 12 characters to level 45 ? It is very much time gated.
Anyways, I am glad most of the community agrees with me, I just hope ZOS will do something about this
Edited by vyncy on March 23, 2017 7:44PM0 -
wenchmore420b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
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Just curious, are you opening all the chests? You may not know this, but Kra'gh only drops in Maj Al-Ragath's chest.
Might save you some time opening all of them looking.
And if you did know this, sorry, not trying to be a a**, just trying to help.
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vyncy✭✭Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »If you could run both normal and vet mode it'd be good.
You mean vet hard mode ? I do that on easier dungeons for example I did get 2 keys today in fg1 but not selene its too much trouble 0 -
vyncy✭✭wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »@vyncy
Just curious, are you opening all the chests? You may not know this, but Kra'gh only drops in Maj Al-Ragath's chest.
Might save you some time opening all of them looking.
And if you did know this, sorry, not trying to be a a**, just trying to help.
Good Luck in your search and Huzzah!
Yeah ofc I know that I did take a break from Maj chest and I got selene, now I am back to Maj 0 -
Duiwel✭✭✭✭✭
✭The old sets should be in completely seperate chests imo.
I came back in February or January of this year.
I still do not have Grothdarr, Ilambris shoulders and only last week got my first Troll King shoulders.
So I agree with OP to a point.
I keep getting sets I already have all three armour combo's of for the desired traits.@Duiwel:Join ORDER OF SITHIS We're recruiting! PC EU"Dear Brother. I do not spread rumours. I create them..."0