Parkham's TheoryCrafting Questions - "When you deal damage"

parkham · March 2017

The question is:

How many instances per second can you "deal damage"?

parkham · March 2017

OK, I'll start. I read somewhere that someone got 10 "hits" in a second off. True? What have you all seen?

Kova · March 2017

I can time a burst and hit someone with 7 hits as a Magicka sorc. Most stamina classes can heavy attack, ulti, poison, proc a set effect, maybe have an aoe DoT and execute within one second. In fact it's most of pvp right now.

Edit: there are some set combinations that allow multiple armour procs.

parkham · March 2017

@Kova : Would ten attacks/hits/instances of damage a second be unheard of and quite doable?

TheStealthDude · March 2017

If you are using the dual wield skill, flurry, then I imagine you can do better than 10.

parkham · March 2017

@TheStealthDude OK, so weaving / animation cancelling / tied in with flurry, more than ten per second? The duration of the attack appears to be 1.3 seconds from what I read. How can someone crunch in ten or more?

Lexxypwns · March 2017

parkham wrote: »

@TheStealthDude OK, so weaving / animation cancelling / tied in with flurry, more than ten per second? The duration of the attack appears to be 1.3 seconds from what I read. How can someone crunch in ten or more?

Animation canceling, DoTs, and delayed concurrent damage.

parkham · March 2017

@Lexxypwns Awesome, thanks for the reply. Is ten the magic average number then?

Lexxypwns · March 2017

parkham wrote: »

@Lexxypwns Awesome, thanks for the reply. Is ten the magic average number then?

You'd have to figure it out based on your build and rotations. DW/bow Stam sorc has many more DoTs than a gank blade.

parkham · March 2017

I'm just looking for feedback.

I can only assume (so far) that:

(a) it's not an interesting topic
(b) people don't know
(c) people don't want to say

I'm cool with "figure it out for yourself" though. It's just taking a lot of time.

Perhaps I should readjust and add questions such as:

"What's the most attacks you can consistently do in one second (that do damage)?"
"What's the most attacks that do damage you've witnessed done in one second?"
"Which monster set capitalizes on a massive amount of damaging attacks per second?"

Didaco · March 2017

parkham wrote: »

I'm just looking for feedback.

I can only assume (so far) that:

(a) it's not an interesting topic
(b) people don't know
(c) people don't want to say

I'm cool with "figure it out for yourself" though. It's just taking a lot of time.

Perhaps I should readjust and add questions such as:

"What's the most attacks you can consistently do in one second (that do damage)?"
"What's the most attacks that do damage you've witnessed done in one second?"
"Which monster set capitalizes on a massive amount of damaging attacks per second?"

I'll try.

1) If we don't want to consider AoE since you can place them as many as your hotbar allows you, if we don't consider delay damage such as PotL or Haunting Curse, in a second you can:
-Light Attack
-Use instant skill (and this depend on the skill itself)
-Bash
These are consistent. Meanwhile you can:
-Proc Enchantment
-Proc from 1 to 3 damaging sets

2) Probably NBs with three proc sets attacking from stealth, with AC, ofc.

3) Kra'gh or Ilambris when it procs both elements.

My two cents.

parkham · March 2017

@Didaco

Thanks. I was only considering 1) , so that's a nice confirmation. Using the earlier Flurry example, it looks like 6 damaging attacks per second then. Flurry can get 4.6 attacks per second + light + bash = ~6 per second.

Looking at "proc" (I had to look this term up twice since I've been on the forums because I forgot) sets, it would appear that those 10% chance to do X effects turn out to be an "on average, this will occur 60% of the time effect".

Throw in something like Puncturing Sweeps and that percentage could skyrocket per second depending on how many enemies you hit.

Which is interesting.

parkham · March 2017

edited for asking a stupid question