I feel like they need to change Sharpened from a flat value to a % of targets resistance. This would help keep it effective versus heavy armor, but make it less effective against lighter armors.

If the meta changes where we have a much better balance of armor types in PvP, this could make other weapon traits more desirable than they currently are for PvP (a good thing, IMO).

Just cut sharpened in half. 1k penetration for 1handers. 2k penetration for 2 handers

PvE definitely needs a reduction to DPS. But then, as always, it raises a number of PvP challenges.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around why PvE and PvP balance was not separated when this game launched.

Frawr wrote: »

Reason is simple:

The power creep is real and DPS is crazy. Also, in 1.6 when the numbers were all multiplied by 10, the health numbers were not actually multiplied by 10. By reducing it, it made everyone squishier.

To slow down pvp a bit, more health and less penetration. Allow armour to do something.

When they will nerf sustain cp I feel like the battles in PvP will be actually shorter... Already like 90% of PvP players use heavy armour. And sometimes they can be literally "unkillable" (20 players cant kill one perma-blocking tank ? only in eso !)...
You run out of stamina and cant dodge any more ? You are dead....
You run out of stamina and cant block any more ? You are dead....
You run out of magicka and cant heal any more ? You are dead.... :'(

Already we have "consuming little resources" bomb - builds that just deal insane DPS in a short time.
Now imagine what will happen if you will not have stamina to break-free ? Or magicka to heal ?

With changes in CP battles in PvP will become shorter. If you will want to have good stamina recover - you will be forced to use medium armour (and light armour if you are magicka). Nowadays in PvP everyone is using heavy armour - because of stamina / magicka recovery cp - you can still have good recovery.

So after those changes in CP - players will generally become more "squishy", DPS will do even more DPS (because of the need to use light/medium armour for magicka/stamina recovery - instead of heavy.

In short - battles in PvP will become shorter...

zuto40 wrote: »

dps is too high? ha let me go get my healbot i'll let you bash on him for an hour or 2 then we can laugh about that silly statement together

I like the fact that healers aren't squishy in heavy.

Penetration is fine where it is. We lost the apprentice mundus and nirnhoned to damage, and penetration from cp is very expensive. I've said this before but it seems appropriate to say it again here; I've always had an addon to show my penetration, and back when the apprentice mundus gave spell pen and nirnhoned gave 18% more I used to pvp with 16k spell pen. These days I wear 5x spinners, use a sharpened staff and have 53cp in spell erosion and I only have 17.8k spell pen. So it takes much more investment to stack spell pen these days than it used to. Nerfing penetration would be a direct buff to heavy armour and tanks in general. Heavy armour doesn't need a buff.

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

PvE definitely needs a reduction to DPS. But then, as always, it raises a number of PvP challenges.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around why PvE and PvP balance was not separated when this game launched.

I ask you to run pugs in veteran dungeons as healer or tank. Say 25 successful runs.
Now reduce dps after your liking and do another 25 successfully
PvE need progression not nerfs, you add harder content on top.