Wait a minute, you mentioned that you do things by "weighted tickets." So did he only have 2 tickets or are you putting multiple tickets on one ticket? You seem to be contradicting yourself.

The dude is trying to help your guild out by spending extra money. If he misunderstood something, explain it to him. Don't kick him out for asking you questions. How mature... SIGN ME UP.

Atherol wrote: »

IcyDeadPeople,


Not true, they cost me 50000 gold and I did not get any of those tickets
thrown into the raffle. Not only that, but they fiddled the numbers in the
posted raffle sheet after the fact, which is not very nice to say the least.
If you look at that sheet I posted which was published at the time of the raffle
you'll see clearly that they only assigned 2 tickets to me, and that they changed
those numbers to 22 after I complained in this forum!

Also, why I was fired from both guilds when I did not have any problems with
the other?


Sincerely,


Atherol

IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

alexkdd99 wrote: »

IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

There is no reason for any GM to trick you out of your extra tickets. The tickets themselves don't cost anything. He is still giving away the same prize, regardless of whether there are 10 tickets or thousands of tickets.

Some promotion granting additional tickets based on guild store purchases would need to be manually checked and list of people entered into the raffle add on just before the drawing.
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Not sure what is happening in this situation but there could definitely be a reason for a gm to cheat people out of tickets. The biggest reason would be to simply allow another user (the gm's friend) to have more tickets= bigger chance to win raffle.

I am not saying this happened here, just that there are reasons for a gm to cheat people. And it has most definitely happened before, again not saying this gm did this as I have no way of knowing one way or another.

Still doesn't make sense. No reason to cheat anyone out of tickets because they don't cost anything. If they are really trying to cheat people with a fake raffle, they would not even run any drawing at all.

You clearly do not understand what is going on here.

That website was updated with the 2 tickets you actually purchased as you mentioned. The bonus tickets were not displayed on the website until the actual raffle when the guild leader manually entered in the extra 20 tickets you earned. You were not cheated out of anything. You had 22 tickets during the raffle draw. That does not guarantee you a win, but yes you had 22 chances of winning.

Now, as far as the kicks, most guilds have other guilds they are related to or know. If they get warning that a member is disruptive as you were, then it is completely in their right to warn each other about you as they knew you were involved in the other guilds. As a matter of fact, if someone steals from our guild bank, lots of other guilds will know to not let them in as they are a known "problem maker."

artificial_blue wrote: »

I'm pretty sure it says it right there.. He assumed he would receive 20 free tickets for spending 50,000 in the store.

"get 20 free tickets for every 50000 gold they spent buying from the guild"

They are not tangible tickets that you have to mail to someone. These are just extra chances to win assigned by the raffle add on when it performs the drawing. Right before the drawing, the GM simply inputs into the add on this list of people who bought 50k gold of stuff on guild store.

Zero reason to try to trick anybody out of extra tickets, because they don't cost anything. The only cost for these raffles is the prizes.

What are you even talking about? Did anyone say anything about mailing tickets?

If you are giving someone an option to obtain 20 extra tickets by doing something (spending at least 50k in store...etc..), why not assign him 20 extra tickets?

What is so hard to understand? The guy thought he was going to have 22 tickets. He had 2. Where did those 20 go?

artificial_blue wrote: »

Lordhakao, I'm pretty sure he has asked you where those 20 tickets are at least 3 times, yet you keep ignoring it.

You clearly did not read the thread as they were not mailed out but rather manually assigned at the end of the week. The "victim" himself even said it reads 22 tickets.

Stop bashing on someone like this.

I told him the were applied at the time of the drawing. I tried to explain this to him both on the forums and him the game however even before he was kicked there was not attempt for him to understand how the addon works, how the raffle is drawn, or anything else he simply just kept responding that he felt cheated.