This is the most balanced patch that we've ever had by far

Kidz_BeAstx · March 2017

Edit: Video has profanity in it but if you want to watch it then view it at this YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Lpx6BvTyXVEPEjBiYoY3g

Video title is "Die or Give up"

Kidz_BeAstx · March 2017

Not a buff or nerf thread. I just want to show a demonstration to the people that say that "this is the most balance patched we've had since 1.5". Are you serious???

Avran_Sylt · March 2017

Get a frost staff, get magicka increase poisons, and spam lights attacks with the destructive reach skill. roots them every 4 seconds requiring a dodgeroll, increases their magicka costs for 10 seconds, and if you slot winterborn also reduces their move speed by 60% occasionally. use selestrix as well for stuns and also use ice comet mages guild for a knockup and 4 sec slow.

This setup is all about sapping the enemies resources, not damage. This is what I use in PvP, but requires you to be in a group.

Kidz_BeAstx · March 2017

Can someone please explain to me why this dudes health bar is remaining at 100% the entire video? It really triggers me when I encounter people like this in PvP. He stood in a destro ult and still didn't lose health. Just how? And yet you tell me that the game is balanced? Is there something wrong with you?

Peekachu99 · March 2017

Kidz_BeAstx wrote: »

Can someone please explain to me why this dudes health bar is remaining at 100% the entire video? It really triggers me when I encounter people like this in PvP. He stood in a destro ult and still didn't lose health. Just how? And yet you tell me that the game is balanced? Is there something wrong with you?

I haven't watched the video, but on my blazplar with leeching and plague doctor I can stand in anything, including vampire-zergs and destro ults and my health doesn't even tremble. Can't kill anyone, but they do a nice job of killing themselves on my shield and/ or setting themselves up for a nice Jesus beam.

This is just clever use of sets, not brokenness. There has to be some counter to zerg swarms and dps stacking.

TequilaFire · March 2017

Peekachu99 wrote: »

Kidz_BeAstx wrote: »

Can someone please explain to me why this dudes health bar is remaining at 100% the entire video? It really triggers me when I encounter people like this in PvP. He stood in a destro ult and still didn't lose health. Just how? And yet you tell me that the game is balanced? Is there something wrong with you?

I haven't watched the video, but on my blazplar with leeching and plague doctor I can stand in anything, including vampire-zergs and destro ults and my health doesn't even tremble. Can't kill anyone, but they do a nice job of killing themselves on my shield and/ or setting themselves up for a nice Jesus beam.

This is just clever use of sets, not brokenness. There has to be some counter to zerg swarms and dps stacking.

On the other side of the coin there needs to be good counters against your build as well.
One person should not be able to stand up to 10 other players for very long.

GaldorP · March 2017

Kidz_BeAstx wrote: »

Can someone please explain to me why this dudes health bar is remaining at 100% the entire video? It really triggers me when I encounter people like this in PvP. He stood in a destro ult and still didn't lose health. Just how? And yet you tell me that the game is balanced? Is there something wrong with you?

Not sure, but (if you mean the person playing a DK in the video) I would guess 2 heal over time effects (Resolving Vigor + Rally) + 25% increased healing done (Igneous Shield) and 12% increased healing received (Burning Heart Draconic Power passive while Hardened Armor or Green Dragon Blood is active) + 2 damage shields (Igneous Shield + Hardened Armor) + increased Armor and Spell Resistance (Major Resolve and Ward from Hardened Armor) + 15% dodge chance from Shuffle and probably wearing mostly heavy with Impenetrable.
Edit: (Possibly using sets that reduce AoE damage like Bastion of the Heartland [which also reduces all player damage taken by 5%] or Leki's Focus).

hassubhai · March 2017

Avran_Sylt wrote: »

Get a frost staff, get magicka increase poisons, and spam lights attacks with the destructive reach skill. roots them every 4 seconds requiring a dodgeroll, increases their magicka costs for 10 seconds, and if you slot winterborn also reduces their move speed by 60% occasionally. use selestrix as well for stuns and also use ice comet mages guild for a knockup and 4 sec slow.

This setup is all about sapping the enemies resources, not damage. This is what I use in PvP, but requires you to be in a group.

Its basically a zerging builds.

Peekachu99 · March 2017

TequilaFire wrote: »

Peekachu99 wrote: »

Kidz_BeAstx wrote: »

Can someone please explain to me why this dudes health bar is remaining at 100% the entire video? It really triggers me when I encounter people like this in PvP. He stood in a destro ult and still didn't lose health. Just how? And yet you tell me that the game is balanced? Is there something wrong with you?

I haven't watched the video, but on my blazplar with leeching and plague doctor I can stand in anything, including vampire-zergs and destro ults and my health doesn't even tremble. Can't kill anyone, but they do a nice job of killing themselves on my shield and/ or setting themselves up for a nice Jesus beam.

This is just clever use of sets, not brokenness. There has to be some counter to zerg swarms and dps stacking.

On the other side of the coin there needs to be good counters against your build as well.
One person should not be able to stand up to 10 other players for very long.

Tanks in PVP exist only as distractions and support to actual dps--same as in PVE. Funny thing, though, is that players can't taunted into attacking. Just ignore the tank and go for the squishies. People wasting resources and precious time on downing a tank is just foolishness--but it happens every time.

There are plenty of counters and the easiest is again just to ignore them

Why are ten players attacking one person that is stubborn about dying instead of taking a keep or resources? There's your real question.

Kidz_BeAstx · March 2017

He is not only a tank. He is also a DPS and a healer (for himself at least). If you watched the video, towards the end he 1vxs like 5 people, takes no damage even while standing in destro ult, and deals damage at the same time. It's one thing to be a full blown tank, but when we are seeing builds that have little to no counter play at all, then we definitely are having serious problems in PvP. You should not be able to go full blown tank/healer/dps without any weaknesses at all in your builds.

Drdeath20 · March 2017

It wad good small scale fighting.
The dragon knight, templar and sorc all played to their strengths and kept the in favor of them being on the offensive.

Organised small scale looks viable now

Kidz_BeAstx · March 2017

Drdeath20 wrote: »

It wad good small scale fighting.
The dragon knight, templar and sorc all played to their strengths and kept the in favor of them being on the offensive.

Organised small scale looks viable now

He stood in a destro ult full duration, and he was by himself most of the time.

yodased · March 2017

Give you a hint:

You can't debuff health regen and its possible to get 10k health regen in the game.

That means you have to be doing 5k dps to even break through and thats without mitigation, shields, or champion points

GGWP

Kidz_BeAstx · March 2017

I have every class in the game, both Magicka and Stamina, just not 4 are not leveled, and after watching this video I want to just play and stamdk and never ever go back to anything else. Wrobles revenge...