vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

TARAFRAKA wrote: »

I always heal so i avoid this. Too often I would queue in to find a dps with a bow and 2H labeled as a healer, proclaiming we dont need a healer for vet cradle, ive done this tons of times...only to have him die to the first add that sneezed his direction.
Moral of the story is NEVER trust a pug.
Also, NEVER PUG.
But if you MUST, ASSUME they arent going to heal effectively. Then, if they do, you will always be pleasantly surprised.
Also, eat ALL your vegetables and ask your doctor about switching to Victoza.

This. Being a dps, you will notice at times you slot things because the tank or healer might be a little off. As a healer you will find yourself slotting things because the tank and dps are a little off. And as a tank you find yourself slotting things because the dps and healer are a little off.

It is the nature of pugging.

Artanis wrote: »

When I do daily pledges, I usually try to find guildmates to run em. Unfortunately, I usually can't log in during prime time, and mostly play the game late at night, and I can't always find similar CP guild mates to run these pledges, so I don't hesitate to use the Dungeon Finder even if its one of the more difficult pledges.

Well, just like any other magsorc DPS, I run Inferno Staff on one bar and Lightning Staff on the other bar without any defensive or healing skills. But sometimes, I am made to put Resto Staff on the other bar as well as other defensive skills like Hardened Ward, because the healers I get from Dungeon Finder are usually underwhelming. I sometimes get the feel that some of them have registered for both healer and DPS without proper healer gearing just to make the matchmaking faster.

I don't judge them or have never voiced out my frustrations against them or to any other shortcoming party members for that matter. I've been a cancer causing noob in the past too. But, sometimes, I feel frustrated because I have to occasionally give up some of my damage skills for survivability when I feel that healing in a particular dungeon finder group is underwhelming. This was difficult to understand, because, at least from my limited experience of magplar healing, healing didn't require the BiS gears or great skills to work in a 4 man content in this game.

So here is my question for you guys... Am I the only one who has to sometimes put resto staff on one of the bars and put defensive cooldowns in place of damage skills during not-so-optimal Dungeon Finder group? Am I simply dying because I lack skills (not avoiding aoes, not blocking enough, staying in healer LoS)? I'd like to believe that I do have the skills to stay alive and it is a healing problem that is forcing me to put on resto staff and healing skills. But if none of what I've talked about has occurred to any other damage dealers or magsorcs, then, unfortunately, it would have been my fault for dying and I need to git gud. TBH, in dungeon finders, I find a lot more instances where I have to put on a resto bar as opposed to running two all-out dps bars.

Any thoughts on this? Any similar experiences where you had to sacrifice some of your damage bar/weapons to stay alive?

Illurian wrote: »

As a healing main, I have to admit that I wanted to start a rant about the cruddy bow/bow or heavy attack spamming dps and the Two-Handed-no-taunt-werewolf tanks that you also get in dungeon finder.

But I notice that when I queue on my dps character I almost always judge the healer for not doing certain things that I find very routine (combat prayer, repent after 1-3 bodies rather than at the end of the fight, notice which resource requires more support etc).

At the end of the day PUGs are PUGs, so you can't expect too much. Imo if you're able to comfortably complete the dungeon, even though you won't be setting any world records, that should be enough. If you want an optimised group, run with friends.