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Ask ZOS for fruit and you will get vegetables.

mrfrontman
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Honestly, title says it all. I'm not even trolling here. ZOS have been completely ignoring us and doing the exact opposite of anything we've been asking lately. They refuse to do things right and always take the easy way out. I'm not just talking about my personal ideas and criticism, I'm talking about everybody. Anything we, as a community have asked ZOS for, has literally been spat back in our faces and the complete opposite has been done.

What happened to making this a better game for the PLAYERS? Everything is just about money money money money money for ZOS now. Pathetic.

To give some examples for arguments sake:

• Gold vendor sells useless junk that most of us would never use.
• ESO+ Members being charged for Morrowind because ZOS felt like calling it an expansion so they could charge their loyal customers.
• Bugs that are years old still exist today.
• Dungeon finder still broken, instead of making it better it got worse.
• Nerfs in ALL the wrong places.
• Same useless crap copies in Crown Store - We've been asking for years not to use the same model for mounts, yet ZOS continue to release the same crap with different colors/skins.
• Crown Crates - A very serious problem, on so many levels. Incredible crap RNG to ensure their customers by more to get what they want. Overpriced, promoting gambling (there needs to be a law in place for this kind of crap. At the very least a gambling license should be required by ZOS).
• Bugs that are said to be fixed in patches still exist - Seriously what kind of testing do they do?
• Any new content that comes out just ends up being the same old crap. We are so sick and tired of running up to this person and pressing E, go here, press E, go there, press E. For Christ sake could you please give us something interesting to do!?
Edited by mrfrontman on March 18, 2017 12:39AM
  •  Panda_iMunch
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    With regards to what exactly?
    And are you sure that your talking about the community, or yourself?
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    So if I ask for a tomato, I do get a tomato?
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  • mrfrontman
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    With regards to what exactly?
    And are you sure that your talking about the community, or yourself?

    Added points to clear up what I was referring to.

    Also no, I'm thinking of the community here and all the things we've been asking for and got in return. Half of the things on that list don't concern me, however I notice them being a problem for others.
    Edited by mrfrontman on March 18, 2017 12:43AM
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    Like my great-grandmother used to say: When life hands you vegetables, make a fruit salad!

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  • LadyLavina
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    mrfrontman wrote: »
    Honestly, title says it all. I'm not even trolling here. ZOS have been completely ignoring us and doing the exact opposite of anything we've been asking lately. They refuse to do things right and always take the easy way out. I'm not just talking about my personal ideas and criticism, I'm talking about everybody. Anything we, as a community have asked ZOS for, has literally been spat back in our faces and the complete opposite has been done.

    What happened to making this a better game for the PLAYERS? Everything is just about money money money money money for ZOS now. Pathetic.

    To give some examples for arguments sake:

    • Gold vendor sells useless junk that most of us would never use.
    • ESO+ Members being charged for Morrowind because ZOS felt like calling it an expansion so they could charge their loyal customers.
    • Bugs that are years old still exist today.
    • Dungeon finder still broken, instead of making it better it got worse.
    • Nerfs in ALL the wrong places.
    • Same useless crap copies in Crown Store - We've been asking for years not to use the same model for mounts, yet ZOS continue to release the same crap with different colors/skins.
    • Crown Crates - A very serious problem, on so many levels. Incredible crap RNG to ensure their customers by more to get what they want. Overpriced, promoting gambling (there needs to be a law in place for this kind of crap. At the very least a gambling license should be required by ZOS).
    • Bugs that are said to be fixed in patches still exist - Seriously what kind of testing do they do?
    • Any new content that comes out just ends up being the same old crap. We are so sick and tired of running up to this person and pressing E, go here, press E, go there, press E. For Christ sake could you please give us something interesting to do!?

    lol don't try and speak for the community or even a large group. speak for yourself
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  • mrfrontman
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    LadyLavina wrote: »
    mrfrontman wrote: »
    Honestly, title says it all. I'm not even trolling here. ZOS have been completely ignoring us and doing the exact opposite of anything we've been asking lately. They refuse to do things right and always take the easy way out. I'm not just talking about my personal ideas and criticism, I'm talking about everybody. Anything we, as a community have asked ZOS for, has literally been spat back in our faces and the complete opposite has been done.

    What happened to making this a better game for the PLAYERS? Everything is just about money money money money money for ZOS now. Pathetic.

    To give some examples for arguments sake:

    • Gold vendor sells useless junk that most of us would never use.
    • ESO+ Members being charged for Morrowind because ZOS felt like calling it an expansion so they could charge their loyal customers.
    • Bugs that are years old still exist today.
    • Dungeon finder still broken, instead of making it better it got worse.
    • Nerfs in ALL the wrong places.
    • Same useless crap copies in Crown Store - We've been asking for years not to use the same model for mounts, yet ZOS continue to release the same crap with different colors/skins.
    • Crown Crates - A very serious problem, on so many levels. Incredible crap RNG to ensure their customers by more to get what they want. Overpriced, promoting gambling (there needs to be a law in place for this kind of crap. At the very least a gambling license should be required by ZOS).
    • Bugs that are said to be fixed in patches still exist - Seriously what kind of testing do they do?
    • Any new content that comes out just ends up being the same old crap. We are so sick and tired of running up to this person and pressing E, go here, press E, go there, press E. For Christ sake could you please give us something interesting to do!?

    lol don't try and speak for the community or even a large group. speak for yourself

    I am not speaking for the community or large group, nor even myself. I am stating fact, there is a difference.

    Very strange that you interpreted it otherwise.
    Edited by mrfrontman on March 18, 2017 12:51AM
  • deluxesalt
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    I like vegetables....
  • Tabbycat
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    This thread is making me hungry for Fruit Pizza.
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    fruit is OP, nerf please
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  • Aliyavana
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    mrfrontman wrote: »
    Honestly, title says it all. I'm not even trolling here. ZOS have been completely ignoring us and doing the exact opposite of anything we've been asking lately. They refuse to do things right and always take the easy way out. I'm not just talking about my personal ideas and criticism, I'm talking about everybody. Anything we, as a community have asked ZOS for, has literally been spat back in our faces and the complete opposite has been done.

    What happened to making this a better game for the PLAYERS? Everything is just about money money money money money for ZOS now. Pathetic.

    To give some examples for arguments sake:

    • Gold vendor sells useless junk that most of us would never use.
    • ESO+ Members being charged for Morrowind because ZOS felt like calling it an expansion so they could charge their loyal customers.
    • Bugs that are years old still exist today.
    • Dungeon finder still broken, instead of making it better it got worse.
    • Nerfs in ALL the wrong places.
    • Same useless crap copies in Crown Store - We've been asking for years not to use the same model for mounts, yet ZOS continue to release the same crap with different colors/skins.
    • Crown Crates - A very serious problem, on so many levels. Incredible crap RNG to ensure their customers by more to get what they want. Overpriced, promoting gambling (there needs to be a law in place for this kind of crap. At the very least a gambling license should be required by ZOS).
    • Bugs that are said to be fixed in patches still exist - Seriously what kind of testing do they do?
    • Any new content that comes out just ends up being the same old crap. We are so sick and tired of running up to this person and pressing E, go here, press E, go there, press E. For Christ sake could you please give us something interesting to do!?

    1. Yes gold vendor is annoying, doubling the amount of items available would be awesome
    2. If you played another mmo like wow you would be used to paying for expansions. expansions are huge amounts of content added to the game, in this game dlcs are small little additions that give a small bit of playtime, orsinium currently being the biggest
    3. Well elser scrolls games are known for their bugs so you got me there. Cyrodil comes to mind to being a refuge for bugs
    4. Nice addition of the ready check for dungeon finder, but in one qol update zos has a tendancy of breaking more things then they fix
    5. I agree, pvp usually gets pve nerfed, zos should really balance it
    6. Eh, crown store I tend to avoid
    7. I don't like crown crates, I don't like rng in the game and even less in crown crates
    8. LOLOL right
    9. MMOS tend to be that, atleast the amazing lore in the game makes up for it.. try reading quest dialogue and learning about the various cultures and zones in the game.
  • JinMori
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    Argawarga wrote: »
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    wtf
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    Argawarga wrote: »
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    I feel the same way about cabbage .

    OP is correct . If yo say buff Magblade , they buff Sorc and nerf Templar .
  • Azurulia
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    Argawarga wrote: »
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    I feel the same way about cabbage.

    Same here..

    Anywhom. I didn't bat an eyelash at having to pay for Morrowind outside of ESO Plus. I paid for MMO expansions for over a decade. (Remember all those Everquest expansion boxes you found in the closest that one time?) So nothing new here.

    People can rant and rave all they like over their entitlement to not have to pay for something. I'll buy the expansion like I used to and proceed to enjoy it. Life's too short to make a fuss over some money when you compare the amount to the hours of enjoyment you'll receive from it.

    If the existence of SJW's has taught us anything, it's that sometimes people just want to find soemthign to complain about for the sake of having something to complain about.

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  • mewcatus
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    In fairness, vegetables are good for you. It has scientifically been proven that eating green helps you live longer. ;)
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  • Imryll
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    For them to do the exact opposite of what "everybody" wants, we'd need to achieve a much higher level of agreement. ;-)
  • DaveMoeDee
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    mrfrontman wrote: »
    Honestly, title says it all. I'm not even trolling here. ZOS have been completely ignoring us and doing the exact opposite of anything we've been asking lately. They refuse to do things right and always take the easy way out. I'm not just talking about my personal ideas and criticism, I'm talking about everybody. Anything we, as a community have asked ZOS for, has literally been spat back in our faces and the complete opposite has been done.

    What happened to making this a better game for the PLAYERS? Everything is just about money money money money money for ZOS now. Pathetic.

    To give some examples for arguments sake:

    • Gold vendor sells useless junk that most of us would never use.
    • ESO+ Members being charged for Morrowind because ZOS felt like calling it an expansion so they could charge their loyal customers.
    • Bugs that are years old still exist today.
    • Dungeon finder still broken, instead of making it better it got worse.
    • Nerfs in ALL the wrong places.
    • Same useless crap copies in Crown Store - We've been asking for years not to use the same model for mounts, yet ZOS continue to release the same crap with different colors/skins.
    • Crown Crates - A very serious problem, on so many levels. Incredible crap RNG to ensure their customers by more to get what they want. Overpriced, promoting gambling (there needs to be a law in place for this kind of crap. At the very least a gambling license should be required by ZOS).
    • Bugs that are said to be fixed in patches still exist - Seriously what kind of testing do they do?
    • Any new content that comes out just ends up being the same old crap. We are so sick and tired of running up to this person and pressing E, go here, press E, go there, press E. For Christ sake could you please give us something interesting to do!?

    Re-map action to another key if you are sick of 'E'

    I love how you talk about quests being uninteresting but complain about vanity mounts. Apparently playing dress-up is more interesting.
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    mrfrontman wrote: »
    LadyLavina wrote: »
    mrfrontman wrote: »
    Honestly, title says it all. I'm not even trolling here. ZOS have been completely ignoring us and doing the exact opposite of anything we've been asking lately. They refuse to do things right and always take the easy way out. I'm not just talking about my personal ideas and criticism, I'm talking about everybody. Anything we, as a community have asked ZOS for, has literally been spat back in our faces and the complete opposite has been done.

    What happened to making this a better game for the PLAYERS? Everything is just about money money money money money for ZOS now. Pathetic.

    To give some examples for arguments sake:

    • Gold vendor sells useless junk that most of us would never use.
    • ESO+ Members being charged for Morrowind because ZOS felt like calling it an expansion so they could charge their loyal customers.
    • Bugs that are years old still exist today.
    • Dungeon finder still broken, instead of making it better it got worse.
    • Nerfs in ALL the wrong places.
    • Same useless crap copies in Crown Store - We've been asking for years not to use the same model for mounts, yet ZOS continue to release the same crap with different colors/skins.
    • Crown Crates - A very serious problem, on so many levels. Incredible crap RNG to ensure their customers by more to get what they want. Overpriced, promoting gambling (there needs to be a law in place for this kind of crap. At the very least a gambling license should be required by ZOS).
    • Bugs that are said to be fixed in patches still exist - Seriously what kind of testing do they do?
    • Any new content that comes out just ends up being the same old crap. We are so sick and tired of running up to this person and pressing E, go here, press E, go there, press E. For Christ sake could you please give us something interesting to do!?

    lol don't try and speak for the community or even a large group. speak for yourself

    I am not speaking for the community or large group, nor even myself. I am stating fact, there is a difference.

    Very strange that you interpreted it otherwise.

    "useless junk" = opinion, not fact (though we all agree on that first one)
    "got worse" = opinion, not fact
    "all the wrong places" = opinion, not fact
    "useless crap" = opinion, not fact (though I would say that all crowns store vanity items are useless crap)
    "we've been asking" = speaking for the community, not just stating facts
    "same old crap" = opinion, not fact. No matter what they release, it will the same old crap - video game content.
    "we are so sick and tired" = speaking for the community, not just stating facts. By the way, try listening to the voice acting and following the story instead of just spamming 'E'
    "give us something interesting to do" = opinion, not fact

    Keep in mind that the definition of "fact" is not "mrfrontman's feelings on things". Those are, in fact, actually opinions.
  • austinwalter87ub17_ESO
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    Played Everquest and Dark Age of Camelot for many years. Why should I be upset I have to pay for my hobbies?
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  • Argawarga
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    JinMori wrote: »
    wtf

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  • idk
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    Rage posts are always good for a laugh. Well the follow up part. The rage post itself is sad.
  • Argawarga
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    Rage posts are always good for a laugh. Well the follow up part. The rage post itself is sad.

    I don't think you're taking the OP's penetrating insights seriously.

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  • Turelus
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    DaveMoeDee wrote: »
    mrfrontman wrote: »
    LadyLavina wrote: »
    mrfrontman wrote: »
    Honestly, title says it all. I'm not even trolling here. ZOS have been completely ignoring us and doing the exact opposite of anything we've been asking lately. They refuse to do things right and always take the easy way out. I'm not just talking about my personal ideas and criticism, I'm talking about everybody. Anything we, as a community have asked ZOS for, has literally been spat back in our faces and the complete opposite has been done.

    What happened to making this a better game for the PLAYERS? Everything is just about money money money money money for ZOS now. Pathetic.

    To give some examples for arguments sake:

    • Gold vendor sells useless junk that most of us would never use.
    • ESO+ Members being charged for Morrowind because ZOS felt like calling it an expansion so they could charge their loyal customers.
    • Bugs that are years old still exist today.
    • Dungeon finder still broken, instead of making it better it got worse.
    • Nerfs in ALL the wrong places.
    • Same useless crap copies in Crown Store - We've been asking for years not to use the same model for mounts, yet ZOS continue to release the same crap with different colors/skins.
    • Crown Crates - A very serious problem, on so many levels. Incredible crap RNG to ensure their customers by more to get what they want. Overpriced, promoting gambling (there needs to be a law in place for this kind of crap. At the very least a gambling license should be required by ZOS).
    • Bugs that are said to be fixed in patches still exist - Seriously what kind of testing do they do?
    • Any new content that comes out just ends up being the same old crap. We are so sick and tired of running up to this person and pressing E, go here, press E, go there, press E. For Christ sake could you please give us something interesting to do!?

    lol don't try and speak for the community or even a large group. speak for yourself

    I am not speaking for the community or large group, nor even myself. I am stating fact, there is a difference.

    Very strange that you interpreted it otherwise.

    "useless junk" = opinion, not fact (though we all agree on that first one)
    "got worse" = opinion, not fact
    "all the wrong places" = opinion, not fact
    "useless crap" = opinion, not fact (though I would say that all crowns store vanity items are useless crap)
    "we've been asking" = speaking for the community, not just stating facts
    "same old crap" = opinion, not fact. No matter what they release, it will the same old crap - video game content.
    "we are so sick and tired" = speaking for the community, not just stating facts. By the way, try listening to the voice acting and following the story instead of just spamming 'E'
    "give us something interesting to do" = opinion, not fact

    Keep in mind that the definition of "fact" is not "mrfrontman's feelings on things". Those are, in fact, actually opinions.
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  • ZiRM
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    I just read the thread title.
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  • SaRuZ
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    Ask ZoS for a crumb and they give you a piece of ****
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