Have they updated Dark Brotherhood yet?

rager82b14_ESO · March 2017

This was the biggest let down for me. The passives, and the content was weak. I want to be an assassin but I feel it is a waste of time compare to Thieves.

ixie · March 2017

Nothing has changed with Dark Brotherhood, I love the Shadow Rider passive

rager82b14_ESO · March 2017

Nothing has change? Ok, no point in coming back for me. Thank you for the update.

lookstwice · March 2017

LOL!!

rager82b14_ESO · March 2017

lookstwice wrote: »

LOL!!

Glad you found it funny but I am serious. I been waiting for DB for so long, and for it to be this lack luster is crazy. Changes that I feel are needed.

1) XP from blade of woe should be 100 percent. I see people aoe pull mass things and drop stuff like super quick. Instant killing a target is not going to break the game or the xp with how stupid aoe and some proc stuff are.

2) After doing some kills with the book of woe. Every 4th one should be a high profile target, that is tougher but has bigger pay out.

Like two simple changes.

Ajaxduo · March 2017

rager82b14_ESO wrote: »

lookstwice wrote: »

LOL!!

Glad you found it funny but I am serious. I been waiting for DB for so long, and for it to be this lack luster is crazy. Changes that I feel are needed.

1) XP from blade of woe should be 100 percent. I see people aoe pull mass things and drop stuff like super quick. Instant killing a target is not going to break the game or the xp with how stupid aoe and some proc stuff are.

2) After doing some kills with the book of woe. Every 4th one should be a high profile target, that is tougher but has bigger pay out.

Like two simple changes.

What. You were upset because of the lack of XP from BoW? ...

Aliyavana · March 2017

rager82b14_ESO wrote: »

This was the biggest let down for me. The passives, and the content was weak. I want to be an assassin but I feel it is a waste of time compare to Thieves.

Bye

Ajaxduo wrote: »

rager82b14_ESO wrote: »

lookstwice wrote: »

LOL!!

Glad you found it funny but I am serious. I been waiting for DB for so long, and for it to be this lack luster is crazy. Changes that I feel are needed.

1) XP from blade of woe should be 100 percent. I see people aoe pull mass things and drop stuff like super quick. Instant killing a target is not going to break the game or the xp with how stupid aoe and some proc stuff are.

2) After doing some kills with the book of woe. Every 4th one should be a high profile target, that is tougher but has bigger pay out.

Like two simple changes.

What. You were upset because of the lack of XP from BoW? ...

LOL

rager82b14_ESO · March 2017

aliyavana wrote: »

rager82b14_ESO wrote: »

This was the biggest let down for me. The passives, and the content was weak. I want to be an assassin but I feel it is a waste of time compare to Thieves.

Bye

Ajaxduo wrote: »

rager82b14_ESO wrote: »

lookstwice wrote: »

LOL!!

Glad you found it funny but I am serious. I been waiting for DB for so long, and for it to be this lack luster is crazy. Changes that I feel are needed.

1) XP from blade of woe should be 100 percent. I see people aoe pull mass things and drop stuff like super quick. Instant killing a target is not going to break the game or the xp with how stupid aoe and some proc stuff are.

2) After doing some kills with the book of woe. Every 4th one should be a high profile target, that is tougher but has bigger pay out.

Like two simple changes.

What. You were upset because of the lack of XP from BoW? ...

LOL

Glad you find it funny, but I don't and I think it was a stupid thing from a balance point of view.

By the way, I will still be around on the forum. Just to make you happy, so don't need to say bye to me. Have a great day.

The_Smilemeister · March 2017

Who else is wondering to themselves "What's the point in this post"?

Cêltic421 · March 2017

Ajaxduo wrote: »

rager82b14_ESO wrote: »

lookstwice wrote: »

LOL!!

Glad you found it funny but I am serious. I been waiting for DB for so long, and for it to be this lack luster is crazy. Changes that I feel are needed.

1) XP from blade of woe should be 100 percent. I see people aoe pull mass things and drop stuff like super quick. Instant killing a target is not going to break the game or the xp with how stupid aoe and some proc stuff are.

2) After doing some kills with the book of woe. Every 4th one should be a high profile target, that is tougher but has bigger pay out.

Like two simple changes.

What. You were upset because of the lack of XP from BoW? ...

Dark brotherhood was lack luster. That's a a silly thing to get upset about lol. It has no replay value, no reason to come back once you went through the quests unless you farming for the motifs. Other DLC you got new dungeons, trial or arena.

Aliyavana · March 2017

"Glad you find it funny, but I don't and I think it was a stupid thing from a balance point of view.

By the way, I will still be around on the forum. Just to make you happy, so don't need to say bye to me. Have a great day."[/quote]

Stupid from a balance point of view? halfing xp from effortlessly murdering with the blade of woe isnt bad, and none of the passives really affect balance at all so its good. Dark brotherhood passives are pretty useful for leveling up legermain and getting that 1 mil fence achievement dye. Blade of woeing a person after stealing from them makes their inventories respawn faster so I am content from a thieving perspective. shadow rider is also a good passive...

"I want to be an assassin but I feel it is a waste of time compare to Thieves". Go ahead and rp a assassin blade of woeing everything in your path. steal their belongings when they are dead and make a living as an assassin idc. If you are a elder scrolls lore junkie like me every dlc is worth it as you get to learn about a zone or a faction of this era. Go and play the story and get to know the dark brotherhood of this era. Tho if it bores you I understand as it is pretty lackluster compared to oblivion's darkbrotherhood questline but more entertaining than skyrim's for sure

rager82b14_ESO · March 2017

aliyavana wrote: »

Glad you find it funny, but I don't and I think it was a stupid thing from a balance point of view.

By the way, I will still be around on the forum. Just to make you happy, so don't need to say bye to me. Have a great day.

Stupid from a balance point of view? halfing xp from effortlessly murdering with the blade of woe isnt bad, and none of the passives really affect balance at all so its good. Dark brotherhood passives are pretty useful for leveling up legermain and getting that 1 mil fence achievement dye. Blade of woeing a person after stealing from them makes their inventories respawn faster so I am content from a thieving perspective. shadow rider is also a good passive...

"I want to be an assassin but I feel it is a waste of time compare to Thieves". Go ahead and rp a assassin blade of woeing everything in your path. steal their belongings when they are dead and make a living as an assassin idc. If you are a elder scrolls lore junkie like me every dlc is worth it as you get to learn about a zone or a faction of this era. Go and play the story and get to know the dark brotherhood of this era. Tho if it bores you I understand as it is pretty lackluster compared to oblivion's darkbrotherhood questline but more entertaining than skyrim's for sure[/quote]

I'm sorry but what you said was dumb. For one balance point of view? We aoe things and pretty much instant kill them. Also useful for leveling leger? All you got to do is go to a tower steal all the weapons, relog do it again and again.

I don't know all you said makes me feel like you don't understand this game at all. With procs you pretty much kill things with ease faster than you do sneaking up and do blade of woe, and even aoe stuff gives more.

Second off, wanting DB to be better is not asking much, it blows right now. Not worth the money, and to laugh about simple changes, two that would add a little bit of flavor to it. I don't know, no wonder this company gets away with too much stuff. Take one step forward and two back.

ZiRM · March 2017

rager82b14_ESO · March 2017

Only this community would turn someones two cents into wanting some thing to be better. Into a negative thing. What a joke you all are. No wonder you guys get boring expansions coming out.

Cpt_Teemo · March 2017

Wish we could become an assassin like

STEVIL · March 2017

rager82b14_ESO wrote: »

Only this community would turn someones two cents into wanting some thing to be better. Into a negative thing. What a joke you all are. No wonder you guys get boring expansions coming out.

The NC judge gives this only 3 OUT OF 10.
Definitely too obvious as trolling goes.

Flagrant foul.
Two shots and the ball.

rager82b14_ESO · March 2017

I don't care if you think I am trolling. The very fact that you people are so toxic.

Know what we call this?

"Addictive response", regardless of what the specific addiction is, brings out the worst traits in some people.

This thread topic exemplifies the phenomenon fairly well. And Honestly, it's not healthy for this game.

Instead of giving your ideas on how to make it better, all you did was troll me. I was told this community was bad, but man I am shocked it is this bad.

KochDerDamonen · March 2017

rager82b14_ESO wrote: »

I don't care if you think I am trolling. The very fact that you people are so toxic.

Know what we call this?

"Addictive response", regardless of what the specific addiction is, brings out the worst traits in some people.

This thread topic exemplifies the phenomenon fairly well. And Honestly, it's not healthy for this game.

Instead of giving your ideas on how to make it better, all you did was troll me. I was told this community was bad, but man I am shocked it is this bad.

tbh regardless of what my thoughts would have been prior to any other responses, seeing you refer to DB as "the biggest letdown" for you and then your main points are about xp gains from instagibbing singular npcs and getting some extra loot on occasion.

That's pretty funny, it's called being histrionic since we're tossing terms for phenomena out there

IMO both TG and DB were disappointments. Passive skills, okay storylines that require you to grind dailies to proceed through, the zones themselves are... pretty, pretty and not very big. Predictable world bosses, predictable delves, pretty much the only thing setting these zones apart from any other in-game is that they're smaller and contain more unique props designed just for the occasion. At least TG has Maw of Lorkhaj pinged to its side.

rager82b14_ESO · March 2017

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

rager82b14_ESO wrote: »

I don't care if you think I am trolling. The very fact that you people are so toxic.

Know what we call this?

"Addictive response", regardless of what the specific addiction is, brings out the worst traits in some people.

This thread topic exemplifies the phenomenon fairly well. And Honestly, it's not healthy for this game.

Instead of giving your ideas on how to make it better, all you did was troll me. I was told this community was bad, but man I am shocked it is this bad.

tbh regardless of what my thoughts would have been prior to any other responses, seeing you refer to DB as "the biggest letdown" for you and then your main points are about xp gains from instagibbing singular npcs and getting some extra loot on occasion.

That's pretty funny, it's called being histrionic since we're tossing terms for phenomena out there

IMO both TG and DB were disappointments. Passive skills, okay storylines that require you to grind dailies to proceed through, the zones themselves are... pretty, pretty and not very big. Predictable world bosses, predictable delves, pretty much the only thing setting these zones apart from any other in-game is that they're smaller and contain more unique props designed just for the occasion. At least TG has Maw of Lorkhaj pinged to its side.

Hold on, I said two things that could quickly improve it. The very system needs some core changes, but two SMALL changes that could at least keep the system we have with some tweaks. Yet, you people blew it up like a big deal.

So please don't turn it around on me. You guys are the ones who made yourselves look like that.

Also this game has so many flaws for me, but the DB one irks me the most.

The lack of Global AH.
The combat is dull and unbalanced.
Grouping is not done well.
Dungeons are dull.

I mean I could give more of a list, but I was focus on DB tweaks that is needed to be at least on par with Thieves guild. Two small changes.

KochDerDamonen · March 2017

rager82b14_ESO wrote: »

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

rager82b14_ESO wrote: »

I don't care if you think I am trolling. The very fact that you people are so toxic.

Know what we call this?

"Addictive response", regardless of what the specific addiction is, brings out the worst traits in some people.

This thread topic exemplifies the phenomenon fairly well. And Honestly, it's not healthy for this game.

Instead of giving your ideas on how to make it better, all you did was troll me. I was told this community was bad, but man I am shocked it is this bad.

tbh regardless of what my thoughts would have been prior to any other responses, seeing you refer to DB as "the biggest letdown" for you and then your main points are about xp gains from instagibbing singular npcs and getting some extra loot on occasion.

That's pretty funny, it's called being histrionic since we're tossing terms for phenomena out there

IMO both TG and DB were disappointments. Passive skills, okay storylines that require you to grind dailies to proceed through, the zones themselves are... pretty, pretty and not very big. Predictable world bosses, predictable delves, pretty much the only thing setting these zones apart from any other in-game is that they're smaller and contain more unique props designed just for the occasion. At least TG has Maw of Lorkhaj pinged to its side.

Hold on, I said two things that could quickly improve it. The very system needs some core changes, but two SMALL changes that could at least keep the system we have with some tweaks. Yet, you people blew it up like a big deal.

So please don't turn it around on me. You guys are the ones who made yourselves look like that.

Also this game has so many flaws for me, but the DB one irks me the most.

The lack of Global AH.
The combat is dull and unbalanced.
Grouping is not done well.
Dungeons are dull.

I mean I could give more of a list, but I was focus on DB tweaks that is needed to be at least on par with Thieves guild. Two small changes.

"you guys" lol

/thread

rager82b14_ESO · March 2017

Ya please /thread since I put most of you in your place. Mod you can lock this thread. I want nothing to do with this trash of a community. Even in my pvp game Albion treat people with more respect than the people here. You fools only hurt your game by acting like this.

I won't be posting back in here I have nothing left to say to a community that I don't want to be part of. Peace out.

SydneyGrey · March 2017

I thought that leveling up DB was super tedious, and I sure don't want to do it again.
But it's worth it for that one passive that reduces aggro by 50% when you're mounted. I can now get on my horse and ride circles around mobs and they won't even notice me unless I'm right on top of them. i love it.
I also like the two costumes you get from the questline, particularly the first one you get. The second one looks good on males, and terrible on females.

But yeah, leveling up the skill was painstakingly awful at times.

Wolfshead · March 2017

@rager82b14_ESO

You come here and ask for update on DBH and when people gave you answer and basic say "ok i wont come back just for i think DBH is not what i want to be" fine i get that in one way but honest you cant let on DLC stop you for playing a game and if you do that you have to count that people think that is very funny and honest if you are like that to ESO i dont want to know what you do to other game that let you down with there game or DLC to there game.

Bam_Bam · March 2017

OP sounds like a spoilt brat.

raglau · March 2017

SydneyGrey wrote: »

I thought that leveling up DB was super tedious, and I sure don't want to do it again.
But it's worth it for that one passive that reduces aggro by 50% when you're mounted. I can now get on my horse and ride circles around mobs and they won't even notice me unless I'm right on top of them. i love it.
I also like the two costumes you get from the questline, particularly the first one you get. The second one looks good on males, and terrible on females.

But yeah, leveling up the skill was painstakingly awful at times.

Yes, both TG and DB were disappointing. In the standard TES games DB and TG are THE thing you're foaming at the mouth to play, but here they're just bits of forgettable DLC. I have not even bothered levelling up to get the passives, I can't be bothered to grind what is some of the most tedious content in the game.

This is the thing that makes me wary of Morrowind; judging by all ESO DLC apart from Wrothgar (which is excellent), it seems incredibly likely to me that Zenimax will again drop the ball. They just don't seem to be able to do justice to important bits of Elder Scrolls lore.

SaRuZ · March 2017

Thieves Guild sucked too.

Cadbury · March 2017

This game needs a Brotherhood of Steel DLC.

JD2013 · March 2017

They're not going to change the DB DLC or add anything. That piece of DLC is long out of the door and they're busy focusing on the next one. From my perspective, there could be a lot of changes to the DB DLC as of course my favourite DB questline is from Oblivion, and this (and indeed Skyrim!) pale in comparison. Things I'd have like to see are;

More DB sanctuaries with different contracts and dailies. (That aren't just copies of heists from TG)
Different ways of killing rather than just endless BOW. (Use the pick pocketing mechanic to plant things on people, for one thing!)
Longer story.
Shadowmere as a reward.

There are a couple of things I'd like to have seen. But they're not going to go back and change and add things. XP is a thing that would be a lot easier to change but as I said, DB is done and complete in their eyes and Morrowind is next.

sickboy2808 · March 2017

I havent even went to DB Zone yet and ive had it for over 3 months. Reason being TG sucked big time so i already know that DB will as well. Reading some reponses here i know i was correct in thinking that

The_Smilemeister · March 2017

rager82b14_ESO wrote: »

Ya please /thread since I put most of you in your place. Mod you can lock this thread. I want nothing to do with this trash of a community. Even in my pvp game Albion treat people with more respect than the people here. You fools only hurt your game by acting like this.

I won't be posting back in here I have nothing left to say to a community that I don't want to be part of. Peace out.

Triggered.

Gargath · March 2017

rager82b14_ESO wrote: »

1) XP from blade of woe should be 100 percent. I see people aoe pull mass things and drop stuff like super quick. Instant killing a target is not going to break the game or the xp with how stupid aoe and some proc stuff are.

There are so many other activities giving a huge amounts of exp, it's really insignificant if you get 100 or 20% while using blade of woe. This blade is used for fun to see thrilling animation and to feel like a true assassin, not to get a score from kills. Probably low xp from blade was meant to restrain people from abusing this ability on everything in sight. Fair enough to me and I like it.