Probably Morrowind will be the end of ESO for me if things keep going the way they are!!

Cêltic421 · March 2017

Typhoios wrote: »

So you play PvE 90% of the time, but you aren't interested in Morrowind at all? You just want to level two Wardens through the content you've already done 8 times? What exactly do you do for endgame? Just dungeons? vMA? Morrowind offers a new trial, but you said you're not interested in that, so I guess you don't do trials.

Can we just call this like it really is? This is the second thread (that I've seen) from you about being mad about not getting free character slots for the Warden. That's fine. Complain about that if you want, but I have a hard time believing that a person who plays 90% PvE has no interest in a large PvE expansion, that offers new quests, exploration, a new trial, and I'm going to assume a decent amount of new gear sets. You can be upset about not getting free character slots without the hyperbole of paying $70 dollars for only a new class. I highly doubt you'll avoid Morrowind, or any gear drops, crafting stations etc... that come with it. You're getting more for that $40 than you're pretending.

It's open world. All open world content are way to easy that's is just boring. To the veteran players atleast. I have heard nothing about delves/group delves, group dungeons. So if they don't add some difficulty in Morrowind I won't be much interested in that myself. Trials yes I'm hyped about it. So really I'm spending $40 for just a trial. Maybe Morrowind will surprise me, hope so. Morrowind should be what craglorn use to be, difficult group content in open world.

Cêltic421 · March 2017

Kerioko wrote: »

Troneon wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

I think more and more are waking up the fact ESO is on it's way out...for a while now...it's never been fully stable, ZOS have always been too greedy focused and the bugs are endless....and that does not even cover the zillion other things and issues that make players move to other games....

Fake Expansion and screwing over subs from "all downloadable content" to "all DLC content"...then charging for more character slots when a new class is released...is just another in a long line of ZOS screw ups.

Once Crowfall/CU release, they will probably take a lot of ESO's PVP community, and Elyria and Pantheon will probably take the PVE community. But these games may not see the market tell next year. So Morrowind here we come, until something better comes along!

Any of those games coming to ps4? lol doubt it.

idk · March 2017

Clearly morrowind will not be the end of ESO for the OP. It's obvious based off his post.

If he truly thought it would be the end why spend $40 just to quit the game? Why then go ahead and spend more $ for additional character slots when he can just delete one of the characters he's probably not going to play anymore.

So logic doesn't really support his decision so far.

The changes in CP recently announced is only part of the story. Yea, many of us are apprehensive about this change, however we don't know the full story. We don't know what other changes will occur nor have I heard the devs true intent with this. Oh, there was a day (when 1.6 was released, that we used cost reduction enchants. They were part if some good PvE trial builds.

So leave if you want. You can probably save yourself some $$$ by canceling your expansion purchase. Rant threads really don't serve a purpose.

STEVIL · March 2017

yes yes yes... ESO is dying, likely last legs, easily this is final straw...

juts like heck, most every patch/dlc/expansions since start-up.

Easily wont survive the next [insert wtf you want here]

:-)

Already pre-ordered and would buy the two new slots today if i could.

Prophesies of diminutive poultry posters aside, i expect there to be a surge of interest once Morrowind hits.

Luigi_Vampa · March 2017

Cêltic421 wrote: »

Typhoios wrote: »

So you play PvE 90% of the time, but you aren't interested in Morrowind at all? You just want to level two Wardens through the content you've already done 8 times? What exactly do you do for endgame? Just dungeons? vMA? Morrowind offers a new trial, but you said you're not interested in that, so I guess you don't do trials.

Can we just call this like it really is? This is the second thread (that I've seen) from you about being mad about not getting free character slots for the Warden. That's fine. Complain about that if you want, but I have a hard time believing that a person who plays 90% PvE has no interest in a large PvE expansion, that offers new quests, exploration, a new trial, and I'm going to assume a decent amount of new gear sets. You can be upset about not getting free character slots without the hyperbole of paying $70 dollars for only a new class. I highly doubt you'll avoid Morrowind, or any gear drops, crafting stations etc... that come with it. You're getting more for that $40 than you're pretending.

It's open world. All open world content are way to easy that's is just boring. To the veteran players atleast. I have heard nothing about delves/group delves, group dungeons. So if they don't add some difficulty in Morrowind I won't be much interested in that myself. Trials yes I'm hyped about it. So really I'm spending $40 for just a trial. Maybe Morrowind will surprise me, hope so. Morrowind should be what craglorn use to be, difficult group content in open world.

When Craglorn was what Craglorn used to be it was beyond dead. Why would they make that mistake again?

I loved old Craglorn, but I was capable of soloing some of that group stuff. A lot of people aren't. When they make difficult open world content, two things happen. One, people who can solo it have fun solo it, and two, everyone else forms huge groups and zergs the bosses down and it is no fun for anyone (see Wrothgar bosses, IC bosses before nerf, Old Craglorn boss farming runs)

Anyway, my post was only about this guy saying he wants NOTHING else from Morrowind but the Warden. No gear sets, no trial, no quests etc... I suspect that he only says he wants none of this because saying he HAS to pay $70 to play the Warden ($40 Morrowind + $30 for 2 character slots) sounds better than saying he has to pay $30 to get the character slots he wants. He is trying to devalue Morrowind in order to make his problem sound worse than it really is. Unless he really doesn't care about the new trial, or new gear, or new quests, or battlegrounds, then sure, but my question still stands; if he wants none of that, then what is it that he is actually interested in doing in this game?

Tapio75 · March 2017

Nothing is free, expansions usually cost money.

I am actually happy that there is a physical copy of expansion for a change, all the digital downlloads dont bring anything to collector but digital stuff.

andreasranasen · March 2017

So you used all your slots... And this is ZOS problem because?

You want to use content for free... And why would you think any company would let you do that?

White wabbit · March 2017

andreasranasen wrote: »

So you used all your slots... And this is ZOS problem because?

You want to use content for free... And why would you think any company would let you do that?

Who says that they are using content for free , may be we should get free slots if your Eso plus

Oompuh · March 2017

Can I have your stuff?

Agalloch · March 2017

I remember when Arena Net announced Heart of Thorns Expansion for Guild Wars 2 . In the first announcements they said the expansion will come without a free character slot.
The community raged ...and after some great debates on the official forums and reddit Anet decided to include a free character slot with the expansion.

The same happened with the introduction of the dark night class in Black Desert Online. They gave one free character slot ( bought with 1 loyalty point -- and u receive 100 of them every day)

I hope ZOS will listen to the community and Morrowind will come with 1 or 2 character slots included.

English is not my native language.

MadLarkin · March 2017

andreasranasen wrote: »

So you used all your slots... And this is ZOS problem because?

You want to use content for free... And why would you think any company would let you do that?

Because changing a single variable from 8 character slots to 10 isn't "content." People are already paying for the expansion. They shouldn't have to pay extra to access all of the content therein. It is ZOS's job to anticipate the possibility that people will need more character slots. They did, and managed to find yet another method of squeezing money out of a fan base that has, in my opinion, been way too quick to defend scummy business moves.

Bigevilpeter · March 2017

Typhoios wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

LadyLavina wrote: »

good riddance to you and your whiny thread.

Seriously threads like this are like the guy in the office who always complains about how terrible the job/management/work environment is and how he's going to go get another job, but he never does and just keeps coming back despite rant after rant.

I would say to that guy what I'm going to say to you OP.

If you're going to go, just shut up and go w/o making a huge scene like a child.

People like you are the reason ZOS doesnt care about fixing the game, beacsue you will just defend whatever they do and bash anyone who diagrees.

Whenever the game crahses remember its your fault, whenever you get *** rng drops also its your fault, when you end up paying 1000$ on this game without noticing its your fault.

And your forum posts have changed what exactly? The person you responded to had the correct analogy. You keep complaining, and you keep paying. How does that make you any better? If you want ZOS to change things, stop playing and stop buying things. The poster wasn't defending ZOS, they just want you to shut up and leave. Big difference.

Well I have stopped paying for a while now, didnt preorder morrowind yet and dont intend to pay anyomre until stuff get settled, but if its just me not much change will happen

otis67 · March 2017

How many posts about this are you gonna make? You want more slots. We get it. We just don't care.

Balamoor · March 2017

Ahhh another Slot/ Crown Crate rant...and right on schedule too.

The same people keep complaining and threatening to leave but they never actually do....

Balamoor · March 2017

Troneon wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

First and biggest problem, I'm gonna pay the 40$ only to play the Warden class, dont care about the other stuff. Problem is I have all 8 slots full so I need to buy 2 more slots for Stamina and Magika Warden which is another 30$.

So 70$ Just to play the new class? No Thank you.

Follow that with the removal of sustain cp options to balance pvp and ruin pve and which is what I play 90% of the time? Not to mention VMA without sustain.

Another thing is the horrible RNG which ZOS intends to keep this way by design.

The horrible trait system which is only one viable trait and the rest is trash

The horrible balance?

The horrible bugs and lags?

But all they keep doing is making crown crates, housing and more cosmetics just to make more money.

I think more and more are waking up the fact ESO is on it's way out...for a while now...it's never been fully stable, ZOS have always been too greedy focused and the bugs are endless....and that does not even cover the zillion other things and issues that make players move to other games....

Fake Expansion and screwing over subs from "all downloadable content" to "all DLC content"...then charging for more character slots when a new class is released...is just another in a long line of ZOS screw ups.

Please tell me what is the color of the sky in your alternate dimension? This game has a metric crap ton of people playing, my guild had to stop recruiting six months ago.

But yeah sure ESO will close any day now, it's on it's way out!!!

JKorr · March 2017

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Typhoios wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

LadyLavina wrote: »

good riddance to you and your whiny thread.

Seriously threads like this are like the guy in the office who always complains about how terrible the job/management/work environment is and how he's going to go get another job, but he never does and just keeps coming back despite rant after rant.

I would say to that guy what I'm going to say to you OP.

If you're going to go, just shut up and go w/o making a huge scene like a child.

People like you are the reason ZOS doesnt care about fixing the game, beacsue you will just defend whatever they do and bash anyone who diagrees.

Whenever the game crahses remember its your fault, whenever you get *** rng drops also its your fault, when you end up paying 1000$ on this game without noticing its your fault.

And your forum posts have changed what exactly? The person you responded to had the correct analogy. You keep complaining, and you keep paying. How does that make you any better? If you want ZOS to change things, stop playing and stop buying things. The poster wasn't defending ZOS, they just want you to shut up and leave. Big difference.

Well I have stopped paying for a while now, didnt preorder morrowind yet and dont intend to pay anyomre until stuff get settled, but if its just me not much change will happen

So, save yourself $10, get the expansion and the base game and the adventurers pack, make a second unsubbed account, get *8* character slots and make wardens to your heart's content.

But doing that would miss teh drama of the "evil ZOS is forcing me to buy character slots" or "evil ZOS is forcing me to spend $70".

Here you go; a link. https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store/product/eso_morrowind_edition

White wabbit · March 2017

otis67 wrote: »

How many posts about this are you gonna make? You want more slots. We get it. We just don't care.

I don't care not we don't care ! As you can't talk for everyone

Balamoor · March 2017

You know...it's good to see the push back on the agenda driven hate machine, more folks are coming together to express what they like about ESO than what they hate.

LadyLavina · March 2017

@ZOS_JohanaB @ZOS_DaryaK , might want to consider a close on this thread lol, going downhill and getting nasty rather quickly.

ZOS_JohanaB · March 2017

A few comments have been removed from this thread. Please take care to follow the community rules when posting. While you may not agree with OP's opinion that does not give you reason to be rude or bait others.

Bigevilpeter · March 2017

JKorr wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Typhoios wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

LadyLavina wrote: »

good riddance to you and your whiny thread.

Seriously threads like this are like the guy in the office who always complains about how terrible the job/management/work environment is and how he's going to go get another job, but he never does and just keeps coming back despite rant after rant.

I would say to that guy what I'm going to say to you OP.

If you're going to go, just shut up and go w/o making a huge scene like a child.

People like you are the reason ZOS doesnt care about fixing the game, beacsue you will just defend whatever they do and bash anyone who diagrees.

Whenever the game crahses remember its your fault, whenever you get *** rng drops also its your fault, when you end up paying 1000$ on this game without noticing its your fault.

And your forum posts have changed what exactly? The person you responded to had the correct analogy. You keep complaining, and you keep paying. How does that make you any better? If you want ZOS to change things, stop playing and stop buying things. The poster wasn't defending ZOS, they just want you to shut up and leave. Big difference.

Well I have stopped paying for a while now, didnt preorder morrowind yet and dont intend to pay anyomre until stuff get settled, but if its just me not much change will happen

So, save yourself $10, get the expansion and the base game and the adventurers pack, make a second unsubbed account, get *8* character slots and make wardens to your heart's content.

But doing that would miss teh drama of the "evil ZOS is forcing me to buy character slots" or "evil ZOS is forcing me to spend $70".

Here you go; a link. https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store/product/eso_morrowind_edition

What about my CP, BoP gear and purchases?

I was hoping you were joking but apparently you are not

SickDuck · March 2017

andreasranasen wrote: »

So you used all your slots... And this is ZOS problem because?

You want to use content for free... And why would you think any company would let you do that?

This is really pathetic reasoning. Those 8 slots were purchased as part of the original game so they are hardly free.

Morrowind is sold as a separate product (definitely not a dlc of the original one, as we were told). One of Morrowind's main selling point is that you can play as Warden. Except you can't without additional purchase or by sacrificing an original character slot that you bought for the vanilla game. No disclaimers when you rush and pre-order. In some countries that is borderline false advertising. For me it's just really pathetic.

waterfairy · March 2017

Morrowind is $60 on console and we have to pay to play online on top of paying for internet...so yeah

rotaugen454 · March 2017

I've been in since PC Beta, and to paraphrase Mark Twain, "rumors of ESO's death have been greatly exaggerated". Every major patch had predictions of the game failing within 3 months. Around 3 years later, they can afford a Super Bowl commercial. Not exactly failing.

nvyr · March 2017

I just cancelled my subs at the beginning of the month due to all the issues that have not been addressed and crates continuing to flood the crown store. I may still play once and awhile but will not be buying the "Expansion" as I feel its a bait and switch since a sub was supposed to get you new content access until they changed it category type to make us pay for it.

Althelas · March 2017

jircris11 wrote: »

why is it people complain like spoiled children about morrowind and the 40 USD that it will cost YET no one gives two cares about WoW that is P2P + 60 bucks for every new expansion? Also the slot issue is your OWN fault because honestly you have one of each built type (mag/stam per class). And the fact you are upset because you need to shell out 40 bucks for morrowind and DO NOT care about the vast amount of content they are adding along with the class. Its not like melemancer for deiablo 3 where you will need to buy the class alone and knowing them it will be 30 bucks.

Maybe because in wow you get what you pay for along with good customer service when you need help with an issue. In eso we have the same 4 crap mounts sines the game launch, theirs no fun rewards for doing anything in this game, you want something rewarding? then open your wallet and go to the crown store

Sigtric · March 2017

OP can I have your stuff ?

Vigarr wrote: »

Morrowind is $60 on console and we have to pay to play online on top of paying for internet...so yeah

Paying to play on console networks has nothing to do with any of this - that's your choice for playing on a machine that requires a fee to get online.

cyclonus11 · March 2017

I don't understand playing an RPG and not caring about the content.

bulbousb16_ESO · March 2017

jircris11 wrote: »

why is it people complain like spoiled children about morrowind and the 40 USD that it will cost YET no one gives two cares about WoW that is P2P + 60 bucks for every new expansion?

No one cares about WoW because it sucks. Here at ESO we were promised the DLC as part of our subscription. Re-classfying Morrowind as "not DLC" is a little underhanded and forseeably earns some backlash.

alexkdd99 · March 2017

Troneon wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

First and biggest problem, I'm gonna pay the 40$ only to play the Warden class, dont care about the other stuff. Problem is I have all 8 slots full so I need to buy 2 more slots for Stamina and Magika Warden which is another 30$.

So 70$ Just to play the new class? No Thank you.

Follow that with the removal of sustain cp options to balance pvp and ruin pve and which is what I play 90% of the time? Not to mention VMA without sustain.

Another thing is the horrible RNG which ZOS intends to keep this way by design.

The horrible trait system which is only one viable trait and the rest is trash

The horrible balance?

The horrible bugs and lags?

But all they keep doing is making crown crates, housing and more cosmetics just to make more money.

I think more and more are waking up the fact ESO is on it's way out...for a while now...it's never been fully stable, ZOS have always been too greedy focused and the bugs are endless....and that does not even cover the zillion other things and issues that make players move to other games....

Fake Expansion and screwing over subs from "all downloadable content" to "all DLC content"...then charging for more character slots when a new class is released...is just another in a long line of ZOS screw ups.

I don't agree with everything they do. But the population on xbox only seems to be growing. From others comments here it seems other platforms have experienced more players, either from old coming back or new players starting.

So I don't think it is on its way out, I actually believe they are doing really well. From a playerbase standpoint anyways.

I could be wrong but that is just what I am seeing in game.

I have said from the moment they released news of morrowind that what they were doing was shady. Changing the name of their dlc to chapter and not allowing it to be purchased with crowns. But I will still buy it and play it. I know for a fact I wouldn't have eso+ if it wasn't the only way to get a craft bag. And also the double limit on housing items.

So while they are doing some things I don't like, I don't believe the game is anywhere close to being on its way out.