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VMA Magblade Idea/Questions

GrumpyDuckling
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The idea is to have as much Veil of Blades upkeep as possible. The ultimate lasts 17.8 seconds long and I'm planning to pair it with some ultimate generation sets:

Armor (5 Light/2 Heavy)
5 pc Shalk Exoskelton
5 pc Tava's Favor
1 pc Molag Kena

- Decisive weapons
- Shalk for Minor Heroism
- Siphoning Ult gen passives
- Soul Harvest kill Ult generation
- Mirage + Tava's

The 30% less damage taken on a siphoning build seems like it would be really helpful for surviving some tough VMA moments. With that in mind, I have a few questions I wanted to run by the community, especially anyone who has VMA Magblade experience.

1) I have 550 CP, but I'm a little worried I might not do enough damage with the sets I selected. Do you think it's possible that I'll do enough damage if I enchant my Shalk Jewelry with max level Spell Damage glyphs?

2) I originally thought about using Bolstering Darkness for 60% less damage taken, but then figured the extra damage from Veil of Blades would help my DPS. Should I make the switch back to Bolstering, or should I keep Veil?

3) I remember the Ice Stage being a damage race from my normal runs. Will this build lack the damage necessary?

I'd appreciate any input. Thanks!
  • DRXHarbinger
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    None of that is needed at all. I go 4 aether, 5 scathing and grothdarr (that's right, everything gets in your face anyway so why not) all trash gets rekd just by having spectral, funnel health and impale on front bar. Just weave and spectral+impale kills it all. Repeat on bosses. Just keep dampen magic on and funnel will keep you alive without issues.

    Don't try and sponge hits, focus on killing super fast.

    Also red cp tree. Just put all evenly into Ele defender and hardy. With 10 in thick skinned. NO bastion. It's a waste.
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    8 Flawless Toons, all Classes.
    Master Angler
    Dro-M'artha Destroyer (at last)
    Tamriel Hero
    Grand Overlord
    Every Skyshard
    Down With BOP!
  • GrumpyDuckling
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    None of that is needed at all. I go 4 aether, 5 scathing and grothdarr (that's right, everything gets in your face anyway so why not) all trash gets rekd just by having spectral, funnel health and impale on front bar. Just weave and spectral+impale kills it all. Repeat on bosses. Just keep dampen magic on and funnel will keep you alive without issues.

    Don't try and sponge hits, focus on killing super fast.

    Also red cp tree. Just put all evenly into Ele defender and hardy. With 10 in thick skinned. NO bastion. It's a waste.

    Interesting that you advise nothing into Bastion. Is it because enemies melt through the shield so fast anyway?
  • BNOC
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    A little edit to the above comment.

    Infallible Aether is 2 piece Crit
    Moondancer is 2 piece Max Magicka

    Max magicka is a flat increase to DPS and Crit isn't so you'll see better return using Moondancer jewellery.

    TTK in MSA is so quick that Scathing mage is out damaged by Julianos on every round except boss rounds - Add rounds are what cost you time and score, not the measly boss fights.

    Be careful if you're using Scathing Mage because I'm sure only the first tick of dots can proc it, outside of that it's 20% OF a crit WHICH IS direct damage.

    The easiest way to do MSA is to output, not mitigate the most damage you can.
    vMSA - Magplar - Xbox EU - 15/11/16
    578,000 - 36 Minutes 58 Seconds (Top 2 World?)

    vMSA - Magplar - Xbox NA
    569,000 - 40 minutes (350CP, Non optimised runs)
  • DRXHarbinger
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    BNOC wrote: »
    A little edit to the above comment.

    Infallible Aether is 2 piece Crit
    Moondancer is 2 piece Max Magicka

    Max magicka is a flat increase to DPS and Crit isn't so you'll see better return using Moondancer jewellery.

    TTK in MSA is so quick that Scathing mage is out damaged by Julianos on every round except boss rounds - Add rounds are what cost you time and score, not the measly boss fights.

    Be careful if you're using Scathing Mage because I'm sure only the first tick of dots can proc it, outside of that it's 20% OF a crit WHICH IS direct damage.

    The easiest way to do MSA is to output, not mitigate the most damage you can.

    Sorry no. My experience is scathing out does Julianos by a long margin. Add pools melt regardless. Why bother even discussing it when you can weave, spectral and impale all trash in 2s flat. Mini bosses and bosses are where you need the power. Hence using aether with scathing is perfect. You sit at 72% crit and over 3330 buffed. DoTs are irrelevant. When going for burst you don't bother with them. I use debilitate just purely for a speed buff.

    http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/DR X Harbinger/video/28003809

    Proof of flawless magblade and the damage numbers.

    OP yes no bastion. Ele defender and hardy strengthen your shield and you. Not just make your shield a touch bigger.
    PC Master Race

    1001CP
    8 Flawless Toons, all Classes.
    Master Angler
    Dro-M'artha Destroyer (at last)
    Tamriel Hero
    Grand Overlord
    Every Skyshard
    Down With BOP!
  • DRXHarbinger
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    And all seriousness. If op hasn't done vma he isn't going to get Moondancer now is he. Aether is stupidly easy to get.
    PC Master Race

    1001CP
    8 Flawless Toons, all Classes.
    Master Angler
    Dro-M'artha Destroyer (at last)
    Tamriel Hero
    Grand Overlord
    Every Skyshard
    Down With BOP!
  • BNOC
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    Sorry no. My experience is scathing out does Julianos by a long margin. Add pools melt regardless. Why bother even discussing it when you can weave, spectral and impale all trash in 2s flat. Mini bosses and bosses are where you need the power. Hence using aether with scathing is perfect. You sit at 72% crit and over 3330 buffed. DoTs are irrelevant. When going for burst you don't bother with them. I use debilitate just purely for a speed buff.

    http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/DR X Harbinger/video/28003809

    Proof of flawless magblade and the damage numbers.

    OP yes no bastion. Ele defender and hardy strengthen your shield and you. Not just make your shield a touch bigger.

    Scathing doesn't out do Julianos, I'd be interested in seeing some DPS tests from PC players where it's broken down, with uptimes - And we should bother discussing it because the high TTK you mentioned means you're 2 shotting adds most of the time - It's a 20% chance to proc from crit damage; a 20% chance of 70% chance when you're only hitting adds twice is not nearly 100% and shouldn't be considered best, it's probably placebo.

    I'm not trying to say you can't get flawless with this, I'm not even saying you couldn't do it with this because you could easily - I'm just saying that there's better sets to run.

    And no offence but a 54 minute run isn't exactly proof of numbers or an optimal build, it would suggest low numbers and a non-optimal build.

    What it did show on the face of it was you taking 1 second to cast/weave for ~24k-30k combined (before execution phase) and I can tell you your dots will hit more than that for the same second it took to cast, especially when you take into account the weave, the fact you're chasing ghosts/killing the other adds and that dots (WoE) apply status effects, proc Grothdarr etc.

    Try Julianos and see if you don't kill that boss before you get the third ghost and crem guard - I'd be surprised if you didn't.

    If you've got parses from PC let me see them, I'd genuinely be interested.

    Also yeah, whilst MoL is broken he can't get Moondancer but it is obtainable on normal iirc so he should be able to fairly easily at some point.
    vMSA - Magplar - Xbox EU - 15/11/16
    578,000 - 36 Minutes 58 Seconds (Top 2 World?)

    vMSA - Magplar - Xbox NA
    569,000 - 40 minutes (350CP, Non optimised runs)
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