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LFG system severely broken

  • dem0n1k
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    disintegr8 wrote: »
    Happened for us last night, PUG group ran a vet Sewers II, re-queued for vet Arx while we were still on sewers. It said the group was forming, took us out or the sewers but never took us to Arx, showing activity complete.

    Tried again with 3 of us (after 4th left in frustration) and same thing, got a 4th, never took us to Arx and showed activity complete. Even travelling there did not help. Had to completely disband the group and queue from scratch.

    ^ This happens to me too EVERY time we try to use group finder with a pre-formed group that has already run one dungeon. From my experience the only options you have when this happens is to disband the group & reform & re-queue OR just travel to the dungeon manually via a wayshrine. At least most players seem to be familiar with the issue coz I see a lot of "*groan* group finder is so broken!" in zone/group chat :P
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  • Draconerus
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    Random dungeon queue did it just now. YAY!

    EDIT: 3rd random dungeon queue. Same thing happened.
    Edited by Draconerus on March 11, 2017 4:51AM
    Draconerus
    Argonian - Templar Healer
    Da Funk - Officer
  • Draconerus
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    Still happening. Can we get an official response on this?
    Draconerus
    Argonian - Templar Healer
    Da Funk - Officer
  • heaven13
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    Arthmoor wrote: »
    PC/NA, last night tried to queue for the Arx Corinium pledge. The group formed, we all got teleported in, but the second we did it told me I wasn't in the group's instance and immediately timed me back out. The same thing happened to everyone else in the group, and once we had all been booted, the group itself was disbanded.

    So I tried again. Same result, everyone got teleported in when the ready check passed and then it promptly timed everyone back out. This time the people were aware something was broken and we all just manually wayshrined back to the dungeon and were able to complete it without incident.

    After finishing and leaving the group, the game had me listed in an empty queue with no dungeon assigned and had been counting upward for nearly an hour. It let me leave the queue even though there was nothing to actually abandon.

    Prior to last night this had all been working just fine, although I don't think I've done a dungeon run since the last patch on Monday.

    Had this happen to me as well; not in instance, removing from area. Except when it ported me out, screen went completely black and it played loading screen music. This went on for about 10 minutes until I forced the application closed.
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  • Tasear
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno

    I noticed you guys no longer update group icons as people change them. I suggest group finder take parameters that are current instead of saving them when group is formed. As I see there are now issues when someone decides they can dps instead of heal. This also brings another point... there are not conflicts when someone is dps/healer... group finder gets angry if there is person who is also an healer.

    Temporary Fix - one member can drop out of group then queue for a replacement, but invite member back through group finder.

    P.S @ZOS_GinaBruno I am sure you are aware, but it's not resetting values after completing a dungeon, so we can't queue again for say pledge 2 after 1 is done.
  • Arthmoor
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    JinMori wrote: »
    Are you the guy who made the unofficial skyrim patch? The name matches.

    I manage the team, yes. It's not quite fair to say I was the only one who made them though.
  • Draconerus
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    Happened do both my queues for pledges and randoms tonight.
    Draconerus
    Argonian - Templar Healer
    Da Funk - Officer
  • Chronicburn
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    billp_ESO wrote: »
    They'll put the fix in the Crown store.

    (Sorry, couldn't help myself).

    Lol
  • Woopy
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    Agreed, it's difficult to enjoy dungeons when you're a low level and queue with high cp's who leave when they see you join.. and now having to wait until the CD is over to re-queue.
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  • Narvuntien
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    I have spent the last three days in 40-1 hr queues.
    Only to have people quit the group.

    It is basically the least fun thing in the whole game.

    I'd rather type in zone chat.

    "WTB Healer, Tank and DPS"

    Yeah buy since BoP means i can't buy the gear i need, I'll buy people to farm it with me.
    Edited by Narvuntien on March 12, 2017 4:15AM
  • zaria
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    Tasear wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno

    I noticed you guys no longer update group icons as people change them. I suggest group finder take parameters that are current instead of saving them when group is formed. As I see there are now issues when someone decides they can dps instead of heal. This also brings another point... there are not conflicts when someone is dps/healer... group finder gets angry if there is person who is also an healer.

    Temporary Fix - one member can drop out of group then queue for a replacement, but invite member back through group finder.

    P.S @ZOS_GinaBruno I am sure you are aware, but it's not resetting values after completing a dungeon, so we can't queue again for say pledge 2 after 1 is done.
    Yes, I had an issue where we needed one dps, I set my status to dps but group leader did not see the update.
    It would not update for others in group.

    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • alexkdd99
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    Draconerus wrote: »
    This should be a priority.

    What, and move resources away from crown products :)

    *before someone adds different people work on different things, I know. However, they are all paid from the same pot of money and management decide which dept gets the largest share of that pot*

    And you know which dept that is? People say all the time that the crown store is just reskins, so they can't be the ones getting all the money. The things in the crown store and coding for the group finder are 2 pretty different things.

    Crown store can't be getting all the funding and time while also only producing reskins as people say.

    I am not defending the group finder as they are always screwing it up and very rarely acknowledge a problem with it. They should most definitely fix it. But we have no idea which dept receives what.
  • Draconerus
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    They are obviously different departments, but regardless, this should be a priority issue.
    Draconerus
    Argonian - Templar Healer
    Da Funk - Officer
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  • Draconerus
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    Happened again while queuing for pledges tonight. Getting to the point where I am tempted to stop playing until it is fixed.
    Draconerus
    Argonian - Templar Healer
    Da Funk - Officer
  • Narvuntien
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    I had a terrible three days trying to use it, until the dungeon i wanted to run was a pleadge.
    It seems fine in finding groups for the pleadges but useless for anything else.

    Stop with the crazy conspiracy about all money going into the crown store. Different departments, different people. From a business model perspective all the crown store requires is that the game keeps growing and keeps the players and some % of those players will buy things from the store. As long as it isn't pay to win, it is not exploitative. I am a dirty casual free loader (other than the $30), all I have to do is sell my mats constantly rather than hoarding them in a craft bag.

    ESOs model is a little strange as enfranished players are likely to subscribe, which keeps supplying them with crowns.

    I would argue that fixing the group finder is important and important for mid level players that perhaps don't have a deep investment in the social side of the game. Those players are the most likely to buy things from the crown store or perhaps subscribe. So to make money ZoS really needs to impress these mid level players. That are moving from casual questing to daily pleadges or late game gear grind.
  • Molydeus
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    Group finder has been broken for me since Homestead launch. The last 3 days I cannot get into any groups via this joke of a system. Why do I keep dumping money into this broken game? Addiction is a bad thing and these people know they have addicts, so they keep making money just like a casino that never has to pay out.

    Good short term business plan.

    Casinos are required by law to pay out a certain percentage of their play. Table games like blackjack and craps are exempt from this rule as they can't be rigged, but the RNG inside slot machines has to be "loose" within a predefined margin set by government standards. They get enormous fines if their machines are too consistently cheap. A casino always has to pay out, but the law determines how much.
  • Draconerus
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    It is odd, because sometimes it automatically ports us back after a few minutes. Other times we have to manually port in.
    Draconerus
    Argonian - Templar Healer
    Da Funk - Officer
  • mateoz
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    Yesterday someone in my guild found the root of the problem, bug reported with repro steps, a video and a workaround. They have everything to fix it.
    The root of the problem:
    When you sucessfully complete ANY group finder activity the system doesn't register it is completed.
    When you form a pre-made group sometimes you will see an odd 'activity completed' that is the system registering your previous dungeon. No-one care about this message but its the root of the problem here.
    The problem
    If anyone in your group still have a 'activity in progress' flag because the system haven't registered the bug happen ie: you can't be at the same time in progress and enter a new activity its conflicting and the system disband the group.

    The workaround
    After you complete ANY group finder activity all 4 group member must leave the group, log-out and log back in (so the system register the activity finally!) and reform said group to start a new activity bug free.

    Thanks to Frebben
    PC/NA in case it matter
  • Draconerus
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    The above didn't resolve it for me.
    Draconerus
    Argonian - Templar Healer
    Da Funk - Officer
  • Draconerus
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    Happened 3 times tonight.
    Draconerus
    Argonian - Templar Healer
    Da Funk - Officer
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