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Would you drop your sub if the Crafting Bag was sold seperately?
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SydneyGrey✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No.Voted 'no' because I also get enough crowns per month to cover the cost of the subscription, plus costume dyes. I don't sub just for the crafting bag.
Plus the 10% extra gold is nice.0 -
snakester320✭✭✭✭Yes.Other than the craft bag there's no real reason to sub .. they have allowed the game to be played with out a sub and they keep making more and more inventive ways to rip money out of customers because of there own stupidity and now greed..
I will sub for a month once or twice a year to fill my craft bag and that's it..
So yes while they will never do it I would gladly pay a one time fee for a craft bag so I don't have to pay a sub at all ever !!
not really because I don't like subs but because there idiocy is my gain!Edited by snakester320 on March 10, 2017 10:59PM0 -
captainwolfos✭✭✭✭No.I don't want to have to fork out twice to play DLC on both servers.
Also costume dyes.Enemy of Boob Plates
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BlueViolet✭✭✭✭✭Yes.A while ago I would have voted no. I would have said that I sub because I love the game, and I think it is important to help support it.
However, Zenimax have began taking it in a direction I don't like, with their addition of the con crates, the backtracking over the DLC, the price hikes in the crown store, and so on.
I've been feeling so disillusioned with all this, and more, like their nerf's in the name of balance, making crafting virtually useless, that I no longer feel that its important to support ESO. I now only sub for the bag.EU / NA / PC4 -
Ep1kMalware✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes.I subbed for the access to future content, and the other benefits are quite nice. Then zenimax decided that the content I've been paying in advance to have access too needs more real life money makes me a bit upset. They won't even allow you to buy it with crowns. Really sort of a slap in the face for people that have subbed way in advancr knowing this content was comming.
I still like the craft bag, though. Give me the bag so zos and my wallet can part ways.0 -
Danikat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I don't subscribe anyway, but I'm not sure I'd even buy the craft bag directly, it depends on the price. In some cases I'd say I'm confident it'd be worth it, but past crown store items have made me think otherwise.
If it was 5,000 crowns like the assistants or less, I'd consider it but I suspect it would cost far more.PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
"Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair"0 -
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Bigevilpeter✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes.Though I dropped the sub anyways and will organise my inventory with alts and maxed bags, not gonna be forced to sub for the craftbag, things like that should only be made with f2p models0 -
danno8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes.The math is simple.
With how the release schedule has been it is simply cheaper to buy all the content than paying $180 per year (monthly sub amount).
Only if you find a lot of value in the crown allotment (18,000 per year) and would be spending that much in extra cash anyway is a sub good value for you.
I was sitting on nearly that much crowns until Homestead came along, then I used them to buy my house to save my in-game gold, but honestly using gold would have been fine too.
TL:DR if you already spend money to buy crowns to purchase Crown Store stuff then a sub may be better value for you (if the craft bag was removed).0 -
Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No.There would still be enough value in the sub benefits for me to continue. Although I'd take a dim view of it, I don't reckon to get hung up on moral indignation and principled stands over what for me is simply one game, albeit the major one currently, within a hobby I've pursued for 34 years now. There are bigger things in life to get upset over than crown crates or crafting bags.1 -
NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭They're not, right???Already dropped it
Issues getting crowns and heck why sub anyways when you have to buy 20k in crowns quarterly. May as well only buy on sales-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Oh, please. ZOS isn't stupid enough to do this...Thanks for the laugh. My vote says it all.0 -
Rainwhisper✭✭✭✭✭No.I sub to support the game, and would sub even if there were no other benefits.0
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Rene_Valionus✭✭✭Oh, please. ZOS isn't stupid enough to do this...I'd vote YES but i'm a realist and i'd doubt ZOS would ever do it, I mean its the only reason i sub, the crowns are just a nice bonus for me.0 -
Gargath✭✭✭✭✭
✭No.I subbed to get the crowns and buy some exotic mounts. Crafting bag is a cool feature but the mounts for crowns were my absolute priority. I was tired of running on the horses so now I have hist guar with guar pet, a bear and still 2k crowns to choose between wolf and lion. The ability to go for special maps and increase premium skill lines was also a good reason. I would not buy crafting bag separately as non-subscriber, unless the price was really low.PC EU (PL): 14 characters. ESO player since 06.08.2015. Farkas finest quote: "Some people don't think I'm smart. Those people get my fist. But you, I like."0 -
Lieblingsjunge✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes.I would. No reason to sub anymore then.Ignorance is the greatest weapon of tyranny.
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nTranced✭✭✭With Morrowind ZOS changed its business model again and many people who are long time subscribers feel burned. Maybe with each Chapter release something will be added to ESO+ to make it worthwhile again, but right now many people just have ESO+ for the crafting bag.
As danno8 saidThe math is simple.
With how the release schedule has been it is simply cheaper to buy all the content than paying $180 per year (monthly sub amount).
Only if you find a lot of value in the crown allotment (18,000 per year) and would be spending that much in extra cash anyway is a sub good value for you.
I was sitting on nearly that much crowns until Homestead came along, then I used them to buy my house to save my in-game gold, but honestly using gold would have been fine too.
TL:DR if you already spend money to buy crowns to purchase Crown Store stuff then a sub may be better value for you (if the craft bag was removed).
But for those who sub just for the crafting bag ZOS should offer a separate basic subscription at $5/month in addition to the current premium $15/month ESO+ subscription for those who want it all.
The basic $5/month subscription would include an unlimited crafting bag (with the same provisions as currently offered), 500 crowns/ month and then a choice of one of the other bonuses (10% experience points gain or 10% inspiration or 10% trait research or 10% gold acquisition) that could be changed once each month.1 -
Chronicburn✭✭✭✭Yes.No possible way to manage inventory without the craft bag. I was afraid to pick up anything and could barely play 30 minutes without running back to the bank lol1
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mtwiggz✭✭✭✭✭Yes.Subbing gives me nothing of real value other than the crafting bag. Crown Store items are of very little interest to me. If they were to sell the crafting bag seperately where I did not have to pay monthly for it, I would unsub in a heartbeat.0 -
AhPook_Is_Here✭✭✭✭✭
✭No.And I want to also add that I would never lie just to further my own self-interest.“Whatever.”
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Grabmoore✭✭✭✭✭Oh, please. ZOS isn't stupid enough to do this...QuebraRegra wrote: »not if the MORROWIND DLC was playable via the sub...
TAKE THAT!
Never heard about that. Do you mean the Morrowind expansion?
As labeled, it's not a DLC and you'd be greedy if you wanted that much for free :PEU - PC - Ebonheart Pact
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billp_ESO✭✭✭✭Yes.BlueViolet wrote: »A while ago I would have voted no. I would have said that I sub because I love the game, and I think it is important to help support it.
However, Zenimax have began taking it in a direction I don't like, with their addition of the con crates, the backtracking over the DLC, the price hikes in the crown store, and so on.
I've been feeling so disillusioned with all this, and more, like their nerf's in the name of balance, making crafting virtually useless, that I no longer feel that its important to support ESO. I now only sub for the bag.
Perfect. Now I don't have to type it in myself.1 -
QUEZ420✭✭✭✭Yes.Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »I may be in the minority of subscribers, but I voted "No."
The whole point to me having a subscription in a B2P game is; because I love the game and I want to help support the game to make sure it keeps going strong and growing.
This is also the same mentality that leads me to still buy each DLC, even though I get access to them all as long as my subscription stays current.
The perks that ZOS offers subscribers for their subscriptions are just that, perks. If they sold the Crafting Bag in the Crown Store for non-subscribers, I would still keep my subscription as I have since the game launched.
Because my reasons for subscribing are not limited to the perks I receive for it.
Money to blow!!! Make it rainnnnnn!0 -
Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No.I don't sub exclusively for the bag so no, I wouldn't drop it.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
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Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.0 -
Blacksmoke✭✭✭✭✭Yes.Only subbed because of the crafting bagg
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