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Would you drop your sub if the Crafting Bag was sold seperately?
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Edited by [Deleted User] on March 10, 2017 8:03PM Would you drop your sub if the Crafting Bag was sold seperately? 234 votes
Yes.
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114 votes
No.
27%
65 votes
Oh, please. ZOS isn't stupid enough to do this...
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They're not, right???
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RIGHT???
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andreasranasen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes.As of right now; Crafting bag, vMoL, Costume dye is the ONLY reason i sub. Yes you get access to DLC content. But how many people actually play in the DLC zones after completing them?
Add weapon dye, furniture dye, transmog system to ESO+ and we good
*Crowns i can buy separately if i wantEdited by andreasranasen on March 10, 2017 8:12PM#VMATOKENSYSTEM #WEAPONDYE #TRAITCHANGE #CROWNCRATELOVER- Alliance/Platform: Aldemerii - PS4/NA - CP 800+
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MasterSpatula✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No.I don't sub for any in-game perks. Paying real-world money for in-game anything is inherently bad, which ZOS understood at launch but chose to forget. The benefits of subbing should only be financial. I happily pay a sub fee for access to all future content.
Wait a minute...."A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle11 -
d0e1ow✭✭✭✭Yes.It is the only value the subscription still holds imo. What is 1500 crowns? 4 gamble boxes? Garbage. XP boost? Who cares? Dye a costume? zzz."Her mystery was as essential to her as savagery was to Boethiah or treachery was to Molag Bal. To understand Nocturnal is to negate her, to pull back the curtains cloaking her realm of darkness." - Sigillah Parate "Invocation of Azura"5 -
Lythandra✭✭✭Yes.I already do not sub. I am just a bit choosy about what I keep for crafting and sell the rest. I get by fine. I have all the DLC from the Crown sales.3
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Zvorgin✭✭✭✭✭Yes.MasterSpatula wrote: »Paying real-world money for in-game anything is inherently bad, which ZOS understood at launch but chose to forget. The benefits of subbing should only be financial.
Players pay money for the game itself so how is that different from paying money for utility and cosmetic perks i game? I'd say they are inherently the same as it's paying money for a video game experience and this is also not bad.
Expanding on your logic, any money spent on a hobby is inherently bad. I disagree.1 -
Patriick✭✭No.Nope. I have no problem giving these guys 15 bucks a month. Their game is excellent and I hope it has a long future.9 -
redspecter23✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭In theory yes, but I'm not dumb enough to think that the craft bag won't just be replaced by some other must have perk at the same time. If I knew from now forward that the perks would all be available a la carte in the store, I'd drop sub and buy the DLC's and perks from the store. If I did that and some time down the line another perk was added to the sub that made me feel like a sucker for buying those DLC's, I'd probably be insulted to the point of just leaving the game.0 -
Acrolas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Too bad there isn't already some sort of item in the game that renders all such threads/polls moot.
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KingKush✭✭✭✭Yes.I don't see a whole lot of incentive to pay the $15 a month as it is WITH the craft bag.
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Kendaric✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes.As it currently stands, I have to say "yes, I'd unsub".
With less offerings in the crownstore for direct purchase, the monthly crowns aren't as interesting as they used to be and the bonus to research time has become irrelevant for me. Costume dyeing and DLC access are nice, of course, but the crafting bag is the primary reason for me to continue to sub.3 -
Baronh2o✭✭✭MasterSpatula wrote: »I don't sub for any in-game perks. Paying real-world money for in-game anything is inherently bad, which ZOS understood at launch but chose to forget. The benefits of subbing should only be financial. I happily pay a sub fee for access to all future content.
Wait a minute....
Oh please, all companies charge a separate fee for their game expansions. This is a dead horse. If ZOS would have called this an expansion (what it actually is) instead of a "Chapter" there wouldn't be half the people complaining. Why they elected to call this a "Chapter" I will never fathom.
Please the horse has been way past dead for like a month now. Please stop."Not all who wander are lost." - Tolkien3 -
Uriel_Nocturne✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No.I may be in the minority of subscribers, but I voted "No."
The whole point to me having a subscription in a B2P game is; because I love the game and I want to help support the game to make sure it keeps going strong and growing.
This is also the same mentality that leads me to still buy each DLC, even though I get access to them all as long as my subscription stays current.
The perks that ZOS offers subscribers for their subscriptions are just that, perks. If they sold the Crafting Bag in the Crown Store for non-subscribers, I would still keep my subscription as I have since the game launched.
Because my reasons for subscribing are not limited to the perks I receive for it.Edited by Uriel_Nocturne on March 10, 2017 8:32PM
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Magdalina✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Doesn't have an option for me. I'm not subbed but I would likely buy it if it came out separately. It's the only thing that makes me regret not subbing but it won't make me sub.
I've subbed for a month before to fit all my style mats in craft bag at least, it's nice, they're still all there and not clogging up my bagspace. Maybe I'll do that again some time, just for a month.1 -
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Looking at the list of games bought last 6 years, Skyrim, kerbal space program, tomb raider (only mistake) ESO, fallout 4, master of orion and an game on the phone I have forgot.MasterSpatula wrote: »Paying real-world money for in-game anything is inherently bad, which ZOS understood at launch but chose to forget. The benefits of subbing should only be financial.
Players pay money for the game itself so how is that different from paying money for utility and cosmetic perks i game? I'd say they are inherently the same as it's paying money for a video game experience and this is also not bad.
Expanding on your logic, any money spent on a hobby is inherently bad. I disagree.
Yes the gaming industry hate people like me
Don't have any issue with eso+ in fact it ran a year without me playing eso as I lacked the commitment to start again.Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
RebornV3x✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes.I'm currently not subbed but if the crafting bag was a separate purchase there would be no reason to get eso+ seeing as its cheaper to buy each dlc outright if you plan on playing the game a lotXbox One - NA GT: RebornV3x
I also play on PC from time to time but I just wanna be left alone on there so sorry.0 -
Molydeus✭✭✭✭✭
✭No.No. $15 is nothing, I make 3x that in an hour. Besides I like the little bonuses, and specifically the ability to dye my costumes. I'm also already way past the nonsubscriber limit in my home. The craft bag is the main perk to ESO+ but the secondary perks have are a draw too.0 -
MasterSpatula✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No.MasterSpatula wrote: »Paying real-world money for in-game anything is inherently bad, which ZOS understood at launch but chose to forget. The benefits of subbing should only be financial.
Players pay money for the game itself so how is that different from paying money for utility and cosmetic perks i game? I'd say they are inherently the same as it's paying money for a video game experience and this is also not bad.
Expanding on your logic, any money spent on a hobby is inherently bad. I disagree.
Utter nonsense. I subbed quite happily for the first year. Buying access to the game was a no-brainer. I quit for a year after B2P, but I came back to the game because I badly missed the things I still loved.
I'm here for the story. I'm here to be a character in a world. My character's look, achievements, everything should be determined by what that character does in game and by not one single other thing. Period. If I can pay additional money for anything that affects my character, I'm playing an inferior RPG.
I wish the game had stayed sub-only. It's better for the integrity of the experience, and that integrity of experience is absolutely something I value highly.
I have exactly zero problem with you disagreeing with that. I do wish ZOS hadn't spent a year promising players who do agree with me that the game would always have that integrity, but so be it.
But I have a big problem with your deciding to "expand" my "logic" to a conclusion that bears no resemblance to anything a reasonable person would get to from what I said. It certainly looks like you've decided to disregard what people who disagree with you actually think and feel and decide for yourself that they actually think and feel something that allows you to look down on them.
Stop that. I know you're better than that, so be better.Edited by MasterSpatula on March 10, 2017 9:22PM"A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle1 -
EvilCroc✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes.Sure. It is the only reason I still sub. I have all dlc's separately anyway.
Edited by EvilCroc on March 10, 2017 9:26PM0 -
Nerouyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »The whole point to me having a subscription in a B2P game is; because I love the game and I want to help support the game to make sure it keeps going strong and growing.
I have a similar mindset and have resubbed several times when I've come back to check out changes, mostly pre the craft bag's introduction.
But when Zenimax are charging insane crown store prices for things I actually want or in some cases need, I can neither justify the subscription nor feel terribly giving towards Zenimax.1 -
d0e1ow✭✭✭✭Yes.MasterSpatula wrote: »MasterSpatula wrote: »Paying real-world money for in-game anything is inherently bad, which ZOS understood at launch but chose to forget. The benefits of subbing should only be financial.
Players pay money for the game itself so how is that different from paying money for utility and cosmetic perks i game? I'd say they are inherently the same as it's paying money for a video game experience and this is also not bad.
Expanding on your logic, any money spent on a hobby is inherently bad. I disagree.
Utter nonsense. I subbed quite happily for the first year. Buying access to the game was a no-brainer. I quit for a year after B2P, but I came back to the game because I badly missed the things I still loved.
I'm here for the story. I'm here to be a character in a world. My character's look, achievements, everything should be determined by what that character does in game and by not one single other thing. Period. If I can pay additional money for anything that affects my character, I'm playing an inferior RPG.
I wish the game had stayed sub-only. It's better for the integrity of the experience, and that integrity of experience is absolutely something I value highly.
I have exactly zero problem with you disagreeing with that. I do wish ZOS hadn't spent a year promising players who do agree with me that the game would always have that integrity, but so be it.
But I have a big problem with your deciding to "expand" my "logic" to a conclusion that bears no resemblance to anything a reasonable person would get to from what I said. It certainly looks like you've decided to disregard what people who disagree with you actually think and feel and decide for yourself that they actually think and feel something that allows you to look down on them.
Stop that. I know you're better than that, so be better.
I absolutely agree with you."Her mystery was as essential to her as savagery was to Boethiah or treachery was to Molag Bal. To understand Nocturnal is to negate her, to pull back the curtains cloaking her realm of darkness." - Sigillah Parate "Invocation of Azura"1 -
theher0not✭✭✭✭✭Yes.I never subbed subbed in the first place. I am doing just fine without the crafting bag. (though I would gladly buy a permanent one assuming the price is reasonable).
But I doubt they will ever do it since a lot of people only sub for the bag.0 -
MasterSpatula✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No.MasterSpatula wrote: »I don't sub for any in-game perks. Paying real-world money for in-game anything is inherently bad, which ZOS understood at launch but chose to forget. The benefits of subbing should only be financial. I happily pay a sub fee for access to all future content.
Wait a minute....
Oh please, all companies charge a separate fee for their game expansions. This is a dead horse. If ZOS would have called this an expansion (what it actually is) instead of a "Chapter" there wouldn't be half the people complaining. Why they elected to call this a "Chapter" I will never fathom.
Please the horse has been way past dead for like a month now. Please stop.
I'm fairly certain that people who don't share your opinion are still allowed to answer opinion polls. I may be wrong."A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle0 -
Ourorboros✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Oh, please. ZOS isn't stupid enough to do this...Since Craft Bag is the only reason I sub, I'd drop it like a hot potato. I don't need any of the other perks, including DLC access, since I used my crowns to buy them, just in case. But zos is NEVER going to make the craft bag a free perk. It's a cash cow. Do you really think it's an accident that so many new items are added to the game while the Craft Bag is the only option that makes inventory easier? I'd really love to know the percentage of players that subscribe. If it's as high as I suspect, zos is making a killing just from that dam craft bag.PC/NA/DCBreton Sorcerer Maester.White - BB meets GoT >Master Crafter< { 9 Traits completed 4/23/15 }
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DannyLV702✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No.Possibly not. I was subscribed long before the bags were here and I had no intention of stopping. My sub would definitely feel it has no value other than me supporting by giving away my money tho.0 -
jedtb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
ur more sillyjedtb16_ESO wrote: »
really?
you have some evidence that zos is intending to make craft bag available outside sub?
or did you just make something up for the sake of it?0
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