why you don't want children in this game

KingofAnnwn · March 2017

I play this game to get away from my toddler. I don't want to see any in the game too

Abeille · March 2017

SydneyGrey wrote: »

I would have loved the children in Skyrim if they hadn't all looked alike. It's like they were all brothers and sisters. All. Of. Them. And they were all human, and all white (Nords, I assume).

I'd like to see children once in a while in ESO in the towns, just because it's realistic, but only if they aren't all clones of each other.

I got some mods from that: RS Children (available for both versions) and Tokkimoon's More Adoptable Children (not available for the Special Edition yet). I have two beautiful and well-behaved Altmer twins in Skyrim thanks to these mods

Although the boy, Solitar, asked to play tag with me yesterday and then went to sleep while I counted to ten. Rude.

MLGProPlayer · March 2017

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

I don't care one way or the other . It would be just more NPCs to me . I don't see the big deal one way or another . Tons of games have them running around and I'm not sure if it makes the game anymore interesting or not .. If they were in game I would still pick pocket the brats .

Children add to the immersion.

SydneyGrey · March 2017

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Children add to the immersion.

This. There are always people who will say "but we don't NEED them." Well, we don't NEED a dog chasing a cat through Wayrest, either, but it adds to the immersion and makes the city feel more alive.

Bouldercleave · March 2017

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

I don't care one way or the other . It would be just more NPCs to me . I don't see the big deal one way or another . Tons of games have them running around and I'm not sure if it makes the game anymore interesting or not .. If they were in game I would still pick pocket the brats .

Children add to the immersion.

The immersion of a child's head into the river....

nimander99 · March 2017

Actually a while back someone from ZeniMax... I think Loremaster Lawrence said that it is a mystery that the daedra or aedra know about and might be addressed.

So take that for what it is. Dragon Break, no one notices that there are no children even though there are cribs, a couple quests to find children that turn out to be adults. So the NPC's don't even notice that there are no children and they refer to certain adults as children.

Its a mystery that may or may not be answered.

I like mysteries.

idk · March 2017

Children in the game would be annoying and add nothing of value to ESO.

SydneyGrey · March 2017

nimander99 wrote: »

...no one notices that there are no children even though there are cribs, a couple quests to find children that turn out to be adults. So the NPC's don't even notice that there are no children and they refer to certain adults as children.

It's so sad to me that the entire population of Tamriel will all be dead in one generation.

There used to be a religious cult here in the United States (long time ago) that thought sex was bad, even in marriage. So they insisted their followers never did it, and therefore, they all stopped breeding. The cult died out in one generation.

Probably not a bad thing. I just call that culling the gene pool.

CMFan1966 · March 2017

I don't think I'd mind seeing children in the game, but I could do without hearing them. In Skyrim, Braith about wore me out with her rant about all the people she wasn't afraid of. I wanted to go all Wicked Witch on her and bake her into a pie or something.

Muramasa89 · March 2017

Abeille wrote: »

English might not be my first language, but I know what child means, thank you.

It is not "he/she is my child", but "he/she is just a child" that I have a problem with. And while there are over-protective parents that can say that regardless of the age, in at least two of these quests the NPCs have personalities and facial structures (and their parents look like they were not old enough to have an adult child) that make me think that the objective of the developer who put them here was for them to look very young, and if the game had children, they would have been children.

No need to take it personally. Given that context then, now that there is some, I agree. Do you remember their races? I could believe it with Khajiit and Argonians at least.

max_only · March 2017

Every "edgelords" that says they want to kill the kids.... do you also want to kill the cats and dogs that run through the city?

Gimme a break.

They already have a child/ child voice actor in the game, a quest in Grahtwood.

There are a couple of quests, I think 2 in Glenumbra where it was clearly intended to be a child and maybe would have influenced how much I cared had it actually been a child npc.

There are cribs all over the game.

Children in the game aren't important but there are a lot of unimportant things in an rpg that just add to the atmosphere.

I mean if you think kid npcs are annoying, did you hear a stranger saved King Casimir's life? Do you know who that stranger was I'd like to buy that hero an ale.

Vizikul · March 2017

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

I don't care one way or the other . It would be just more NPCs to me . I don't see the big deal one way or another . Tons of games have them running around and I'm not sure if it makes the game anymore interesting or not .. If they were in game I would still pick pocket the brats .

I don't think you would get anything more valuable than a half eaten lollipop

Abeille · March 2017

Muramasa89 wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

English might not be my first language, but I know what child means, thank you.

It is not "he/she is my child", but "he/she is just a child" that I have a problem with. And while there are over-protective parents that can say that regardless of the age, in at least two of these quests the NPCs have personalities and facial structures (and their parents look like they were not old enough to have an adult child) that make me think that the objective of the developer who put them here was for them to look very young, and if the game had children, they would have been children.

No need to take it personally. Given that context then, now that there is some, I agree. Do you remember their races? I could believe it with Khajiit and Argonians at least.

I did the quests forever ago, but I'm sure they were both human. I think Breton. Breton is one of the races that is easy to make a very young-looking character in the character creator already because of their round faces.

EmEm_Oh · March 2017

Tryxus wrote: »

There's plenty of children in this game: they're all Vestiges

And here I thought they were Scamps. Small. Vicious. Breath fire. Don't make them mad. Yeah, Scamps.

TheShadowScout · March 2017

Muramasa89 wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

English might not be my first language, but I know what child means, thank you.

It is not "he/she is my child", but "he/she is just a child" that I have a problem with. And while there are over-protective parents that can say that regardless of the age, in at least two of these quests the NPCs have personalities and facial structures (and their parents look like they were not old enough to have an adult child) that make me think that the objective of the developer who put them here was for them to look very young, and if the game had children, they would have been children.

No need to take it personally. Given that context then, now that there is some, I agree. Do you remember their races? I could believe it with Khajiit and Argonians at least.

I remember several such quests... one breton in stormhaven, two redguards in alik'r and bangkorai, one nord in the rift are foremost in my mind for ""Adult looking yet acting and being treated by the quest structure like children". There are several more marginal ones where it would have made a lot more sense if they looked like lanky teenagers then full adults...

If they at least had made the "parents" aged looking and the "children" set to the smallest body frame... but in each case, they look like youn ger siblings at best, and often create an immersion dissonance when they act like terrified ten year olds despite their "fully grown" visuals.

Doctordarkspawn · March 2017

Ohhhh my goooood so many people going "REMOVE THIEVES" and "REMOVE ASSASSINATION"

Go play archage. That has open PVP. Stop wishing for it here.Tune it out like the rest of us, for crap sake.

Bobby_V_Rockit · March 2017

Because kids *** me off and I dont want them ruining my game

Jemcrystal · March 2017

I think you're making a big deal over nothing. Kids work out just fine in games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAhG9D9UO7c

KochDerDamonen · March 2017

max_only wrote: »

Every "edgelords" that says they want to kill the kids.... do you also want to kill the cats and dogs that run through the city?

Gimme a break.

They already have a child/ child voice actor in the game, a quest in Grahtwood.

There are a couple of quests, I think 2 in Glenumbra where it was clearly intended to be a child and maybe would have influenced how much I cared had it actually been a child npc.

There are cribs all over the game.

Children in the game aren't important but there are a lot of unimportant things in an rpg that just add to the atmosphere.

I mean if you think kid npcs are annoying, did you hear a stranger saved King Casimir's life? Do you know who that stranger was I'd like to buy that hero an ale.

@max_only When (most) npcs get grating with their nonsense I can make a colorful slip-n-slide of their throat. I can guarantee children, and likely even noticeable teens, would not be killable.

I say CAN and not DO because their voices are low enough pitch to ignore, I genuinely don't find them annoying. Unless I'm on a more assassin-y/murder-y character. Personally none of the animal sounds bother me, though I'm sure some here would be happier if they could stop that dog

Ep1kMalware · March 2017

SantieClaws wrote: »

And is it not strange to have a world with so many cradles and yet every one of them is empty?

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Ur right, let's remove the cradles in interest of gameplay performance.

sentientomega · March 2017

I find I enjoy a game so much more when there are no kids in it, be it RL or a game, I always try and avoid them, at all costs. I do not want them in ESO, ever.

And people are wrong about characters and their offspring being the same ages, sometimes the age lines can be hard to make out; much less so in character creation...

AhPook_Is_Here · March 2017

It's not me wanting or not wanting; sheo doesn't believe in children, and so they do not exist in his world.

lientier · March 2017

I would really love to have them around. More immersive, more "real" feel, it would certainly make me smile too.
Stories would make more sense.. its just so weird.. because cradles exist especially.

A "placable" child would be nice, however a toddler running after you like the pets do would be funny too.. but then, would you take them on a murder spree (its just pixels, but well).
Anyhow, them just hanging around the city would be awesome, there are so many adult NPC's around, we could put some chilldren insted to get it not too crowded.

Tapio75 · March 2017

I think children would bring life in to Tamriel but before that, the justice system should be improved to lessen murders in crowded places and beyond.

FriedEggSandwich · March 2017

It never occurs to me that there are no kids in the game. It's only these threads that make me think "oh yeah, no kids". I'm fine with that.

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Duiwel · March 2017

Killable children was probably the best mod in Skyrim, it's a shame that they aren't represented here...

For Black Sacrament purposes of course

Knootewoot · March 2017

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Do you really want more indestructible eyes witnessing your thieving and assassinations?

Who sais they have to be indestructible. It's ok for me to murder housewives, harmless bald priests, monkeys, goats and whatnot. But as soon it's a kid it's a nono? Really man, kids should be ingame and should be killable.

And who decided to make bards unkillable? At first we could and it was fun:

*The plainmelt is nigh, the plainmelt is nigh...* AAARCH.

Probably because of roleplayers

FloppyTouch · March 2017

Kids are in ESO they are just in the form of a baby goat pet XDDD

Oyaban_Kyuubi · March 2017

I wouldn't mind children in the game I'm currently replaying through Skyrim atm (slightly modded) and one of the mods I have is TK Children then I also have 2 argonian adoptables and 2 khajiit adoptables. For immersion I have Non Essential children on so if a dragon does attack you don't see someone like Braith go after it and not get killed and thrown across the map.

That being said i also wouldn't mind if the children were just as killable as any other Grey named npc out there. Yeah sure there will be a person or two who make a pile of bodies that are children 10+ kills high but then again that already happens in Vulkhel Guard near the castle. I see Servant monks and the two guards in front of the castle there dead all the time in droves sometimes I see 40 bodies all just right there in front of the castle and when you figure there's maybe 5 npcs that are killable there (2 guards in full plate and 3 monk servants) that means unless someone pulled some npcs they went through 8 respawns worth of npcs just right there in front of the palace without any bodies despawning.

Does my lack of caring about pixels make me a unethical monster? Sure if that's what you want to believe more power to you. At the end of the day what you think and what you want to fight for with a keyboard doesn't matter to me. There's a handy dandy ignore button for anything in chat. So bring on the kids in game. Ill happily welcome them because they don't bother me. They didn't bother me in skyrim they wont bother me here.

Much bigger fish to fry in this game than little Jhonny stabbing some pixels in the jugular.