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Let people buy craft bag is actually not that bad
Lyserus
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Make it purchasable via real money （same money as 6month subscription）and only has 150 slots （still with unlimited stack number）（there are like 250+ kinds of mats, so subscription is still better）.
Like ZOS said themselves the majority of players are not long-term players, so the permanent purchase will only benefit the loyal players, and ZOS can generate more money from short term players who want to buy craft bag once and for all but turned out didn't stay for over 6 months
Edited by Lyserus on March 10, 2017 7:36PM Like ZOS said themselves the majority of players are not long-term players, so the permanent purchase will only benefit the loyal players, and ZOS can generate more money from short term players who want to buy craft bag once and for all but turned out didn't stay for over 6 months
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[Deleted User]✭✭✭The user and all related content has been deleted.Edited by [Deleted User] on March 10, 2017 7:41PM8 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nope. It's the only reason to sub. The business people made this choice for that reason and Zos has said it will not be offered in any capacity via the crown store.
Edit: you can rent it for 6 months via a 180 day subcription.Edited by idk on March 10, 2017 7:38PM6 -
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✭✭Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »Nope. It's the only reason to sub. The business people made this choice for that reason and Zos has said it will not be offered in any capacity via the crown store.
Edit: you can rent it for 6 months via a 180 day subcription.
well this is not via crown store but real money2 -
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✭With the expansions being excluded from ESO+, my only reason to maintain the sub is the exclusive craft bag. The moment an alternative bag becomes buyable, I'll drop the sub. Simple as that. DLCs are not too expensive, the value of 1500 crowns per month is decreasing (as costumes and mounts get more expensive), and at 600+ cp I have no use for the other small boosts.PC-EU4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »Nope. It's the only reason to sub. The business people made this choice for that reason and Zos has said it will not be offered in any capacity via the crown store.
Edit: you can rent it for 6 months via a 180 day subcription.
well this is not via crown store but real money
Profound since it takes real money to obtain crowns.
Seriously. It's not going to happen. The craft bag being an ESO+ exclusive was a fabulous business decision. Your thread indicates it still is.Edited by idk on March 10, 2017 7:46PM5 -
Pallmor✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's a nice idea, but with free DLC play going away now, crafting bags are pretty much the only reason to sub anymore. No way ZOS is going to give up a bunch of ongoing subs for a one-time payment.
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✭✭It would only work if there was a limit on the number of items allowed, or else the incentive is removed to have the subscription craft bag.
But I get what you're saying about creating another way to get non subscribers / short termers / ultra casuals to spend more money.Happy All the Holidays To You and Yours!
Remembering better days of less RNG in all the things.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Selling it for an fixed sum will reduce the number of subs a lot.
I guess they will rater go the other way and add more features to eso+ to compensate for morrowind to some degree as many dropped + because of it.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.2 -
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✭✭PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »And how many will drop their sub? I'm betting it's plenty of people.
Edit: So no, go sub.
I would.
Oooh, someone make a poll!Edited by Kodrac on March 10, 2017 7:50PM0 -
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✭✭✭Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »Nope. It's the only reason to sub. The business people made this choice for that reason and Zos has said it will not be offered in any capacity via the crown store.
Edit: you can rent it for 6 months via a 180 day subcription.
well this is not via crown store but real money
Unless you use 1. someone else's credit card with permission, or 2. a stolen credit card to pay, you are using "real money". Do you consider buying time cards to sub using "fake money"? You are still paying with "real money" one way or another. Whether or not you go through the crown store doesn't really matter. For that matter there are no "free crowns"; you pay your sub in exchange for those crowns, so not free.0 -
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KanedaSyndrome✭✭✭✭Imo, it's fair as it is right now. There has to be something more than a 10% buff to stuff for people to stay eso+.
For me the major things are:- Crafting bag
- Dyable Costumes
Edited by KanedaSyndrome on March 10, 2017 9:26PMKanedaSyndrome's Suggestions For Game Improvements
The Fortuitous Collapse of the Wave Equation
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✭The crafting bag is more than worth the sub price alone.. not to mention all the other stuff.. just sub and be done with it already..
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✭Less than 50 cents per day to sub. Say yes to sub.Sorcerna, proud beta sorc. RIP April 2014 to May 31 2016 DArk Brotherhood. Out of retirement for negates and encases. Sorcerna will be going back into retirement to be my main crafter Fall 2018. Because an 8 k shield is f ing useless. Died because of baddies on the forum. Too much qq too little pew pew. 16 AD 2 DC. 0 EP cause they bad, CP 2300 plus 18 level 50 toons. NA, PC, Grey Host#SORCLIVESMATTER actually they don’t or they wouldn’t keep getting nerfed constantly.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭We should be able to craft the crating bag, it makes some sense
No you don't want to know the skill requirements nor the material uses.Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
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✭ESO+ is getting new stuff soon enough. That they didnt include the expansion is completely valid. All other DLC will be included if you got ESO+ tho.Huyen Shadowpaw, dedicated nightblade tank - PS4 (Retired)
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KanedaSyndrome✭✭✭✭Btw sub is quite cheap in eso KanedaSyndrome's Suggestions For Game Improvements
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✭✭One of the few benefits people get for subscriptions, so no.Your immersion is breaking my entitlement. Buff Sorc's. Darkshroud the cremator Death by furRubeus BlackFluffy knight BladesThe Fat PantherPsijic Fungal SausageFlesheater the VileCaspian Rafferty FernsbyArchfiend Warlock PiersThe Black BishopEvil Wizard Lizard (EU)Neberra Vestige Fajeon (EU)Salanis Deathstick (EU)Blood Mage Alchemist (EU)0 -
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✭They are purchaseable for 14.99 a month, 45 for three months, and whatever a year sub costs.0 -
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✭✭✭If not for the crafting bag (as stated many times here) There would be almost no point to sub at all.
I'm all for making it purchasable - IF it were replaced by something equally nifty and useful for Subs.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I strongly regret ever having been against this idea. The fact that people like me embraced the idea of the crafting bag as a sub-only perk gave ZOS the go-ahead to take financial value away from ESO+ and make it all about in-game perks--which is exactly the opposite of what they should be doing. I feel responsible."A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle2 -
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✭✭✭I do not sub, but I am often tempted to for crafting bag. I just don't spend money that frivolously. But if I could buy the crafting bag for crowns, I would load up during a sale.
To undermine the sub that profoundly the crafting bag would have to be priced outrageously, at way more crowns than anything we've seen yet. Any lesser version of the crafting bag would be foolish because it would be sufficient for many and would cause a lot of lost subs.0 -
mariskaas✭✭✭I was never ever going to sub ever, until they released crafting bag. It is the one and only reason for many people to sub. Yes the xp, research times are nice but for me at least no reason to sub. I actually think subs should get more perks (maybe furniture dyeing or something) even if I might not be able to afford my sub when the next payment comes around.1 -
snakester320✭✭✭✭They will not let the sub go its amazing how many players sub just for that bag take that away and the crown store prices will triple nothing short of ZOS begging for money on the corner with a sign ..
I seriously believe that's all they have left to raise revenue.. there already in the ripoff realm with scam crates take even the cost of costumes now some at 1000 crowns add the16000 crowns for non functional digital content ( cave house ) there grabbing at straws now.. It would be a nail in the coffin for ZOS if they made a craft bag a seperate purchase they need what subs they have to keep going!!0
