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The point of my post is why were you at bleakers to begin with? You weren't helping your faction in any way. At least when Booze and Co go all PVP troll they do it in places that benefit EP.
Unlike DC, AD has the consistent numbers to stand against EP on a regular basis but most of the time a select group is too busy trolling DC.
@Drasn
I took the night 'off' so cannot speak directly to the decisions specifically made but ...
...... 1) On Tuesday, the time spent was nearly exclusively versus EP. Maybe, last night had a more DC lean to it.
...... 2) Maybe activities with individuals prior to a group forming dictated a DC lean to the night.
...... 3) From the screen shot provided, the option are:
............ a.) PvDoor Drake. No reason.
............ b.) PvDoor Kings for a scroll and attract 95% of the AD.
............ c.) Join the zerg at BRK. No thank you, it is very rare that the group will head into an AD zerg
............ d.) Bleakers being in between DC & EP. Sounds like a fun place to be.
...... 4) Dethroning is not a high consideration in decision making. Unless someone specifically wants an emp run as the
map will be flipped in a few hours anyways.
A question for you is, 'How did the faction need any help at this specific time?' With EP turtled and DC 'H' bent on Chalman the Randoms were not pinned down anywhere and had manageable odds in objectives they chose. Keep in mind that a lot of these players siege postern doors with fire ballista when the few do actually place siege.
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The point of my post is why were you at bleakers to begin with? You weren't helping your faction in any way. At least when Booze and Co go all PVP troll they do it in places that benefit EP.
Unlike DC, AD has the consistent numbers to stand against EP on a regular basis but most of the time a select group is too busy trolling DC.
@Drasn
I took the night 'off' so cannot speak directly to the decisions specifically made but ...
...... 1) On Tuesday, the time spent was nearly exclusively versus EP. Maybe, last night had a more DC lean to it.
...... 2) Maybe activities with individuals prior to a group forming dictated a DC lean to the night.
...... 3) From the screen shot provided, the option are:
............ a.) PvDoor Drake. No reason.
............ b.) PvDoor Kings for a scroll and attract 95% of the AD.
............ c.) Join the zerg at BRK. No thank you, it is very rare that the group will head into an AD zerg
............ d.) Bleakers being in between DC & EP. Sounds like a fun place to be.
...... 4) Dethroning is not a high consideration in decision making. Unless someone specifically wants an emp run as the
map will be flipped in a few hours anyways.
A question for you is, 'How did the faction need any help at this specific time?' With EP turtled and DC 'H' bent on Chalman the Randoms were not pinned down anywhere and had manageable odds in objectives they chose. Keep in mind that a lot of these players siege postern doors with fire ballista when the few do actually place siege.
I can tell you pretty much what the gameplan was, wait for EP to take everything that DC held including scrolls and when DC finally was able to mount an offensive to start getting some of their keeps back a group with TM at the forefront constantly ambushed us as we broke into the keep stating all the way back at Glade(keep in mind this was when AD was poplocked, EP was 2 bars, and DC was 1 bar). So the losing faction, with the least population, and no territory to their name was being harassed all day by TM and the pugs following them around. (The screenshot was just an example.) There was absolutely no strategic reason whatsoever for doing the things they were doing.
To counter your c. AD actually had just recently lost BRK because 20 plus people were too busy chasing down 1 to 2 DC at a time
As for your d. (as well as someone elses post from earlier) I played DAoC for 8+ years I'm all for open field combat between two to three factions at once, even better if its organized. But what TM was doing yesterday was far from that, as I stated earlier they were following DC around destro-bombing every time we took one of our keeps back and harassing us every step of the way.
I get that its pvp and we are all at war, yada yada. I get that it feels good to have those small victories here and there, but ffs 10-20 people picking off 1's and 2's as they try to get back to the real fight? Where is the skill in that? All those actions do is make the guild you represent look bad and lose respect.
Look, I haven't been on Azura's that long, so I can only speak for recent matters and I don't know any of the history between guilds and people that have been their longer, all I can speak on is what a new player sees when they enter the campaign. What I see is that DC as a whole is unorganized and undermanned, but everyone here already knew that. EP and AD both have the number to poplock but for some reasons AD's leaders are content with letting EP win the campaign. Say what you want about DC but at least they are trying to put up a fight against EP.
@Munavar
I apologize if I am coming off as bashing TM, that's not my intent. I was just mildly annoyed yesterday that every time we showed up somewhere... poof there is the same group of AD right behind us.. we are fighting EP in the front with AD trying to get free AP by tagging everything just before the initial fight ends.
If you want to be part of the fight great, be part of the fight... don't use cheap tactics especially when you outnumber us. Stuff like that doesn't make either side better for it. (I understand you weren't there, I'm assuming you are the leader or one of for TM)
The point of what help your faction needed at the time.. DC was pushing Chal because EP was pushing BRK, the group led by TM members that took bleaks during our push cut off DC from chal and didn't help AD defend BRK. That action alone was detrimental to two factions and only served to help EP.
Sometimes people just give up on the map and want to have fun, avoid the lag at de-emps, or just straight up cause trouble because they know it will *** people off.
cbaudersub17_ESO wrote: »@Munavar
I apologize if I am coming off as bashing TM, that's not my intent. I was just mildly annoyed yesterday that every time we showed up somewhere... poof there is the same group of AD right behind us.. we are fighting EP in the front with AD trying to get free AP by tagging everything just before the initial fight ends.
If you want to be part of the fight great, be part of the fight... don't use cheap tactics especially when you outnumber us. Stuff like that doesn't make either side better for it. (I understand you weren't there, I'm assuming you are the leader or one of for TM)
The point of what help your faction needed at the time.. DC was pushing Chal because EP was pushing BRK, the group led by TM members that took bleaks during our push cut off DC from chal and didn't help AD defend BRK. That action alone was detrimental to two factions and only served to help EP.
Two things: all factions muck up the works for other factions when the map 'dictates' a common goal for two factions. It happens for all sorts of reasons and is justified for something done to them yesterday.
Bruma and Dragonclaw. DC was not cutoff.
@WhiteMage
On the 8v2 from stealth occurrence, you would need to go into further details...
Generally, the group is in stealth for...
...... 1) Waiting for the stragglers to arrive at a location
...... 2) On a resource, to obtain a 'surprise vector' on the Nth attempt
...... 3) Back cap attempt (if we arrive too early)
Mostly what any other group (sans gankers) use stealth for.
A question now is, why did you stay if you knew a Xv2 was coming? I get it if you wanted to have the 'fight' to see how you would to do. Maybe kill a couple before withdrawing. But it should not cause any rage when it is your call. Yes, surely, it is frustrating not to be able to find 'small scale' fights but Cyrodiil in it current state is not conducive to those situations.
I love story time.
cbaudersub17_ESO wrote: »@Munavar
I apologize if I am coming off as bashing TM, that's not my intent. I was just mildly annoyed yesterday that every time we showed up somewhere... poof there is the same group of AD right behind us.. we are fighting EP in the front with AD trying to get free AP by tagging everything just before the initial fight ends.
If you want to be part of the fight great, be part of the fight... don't use cheap tactics especially when you outnumber us. Stuff like that doesn't make either side better for it. (I understand you weren't there, I'm assuming you are the leader or one of for TM)
The point of what help your faction needed at the time.. DC was pushing Chal because EP was pushing BRK, the group led by TM members that took bleaks during our push cut off DC from chal and didn't help AD defend BRK. That action alone was detrimental to two factions and only served to help EP.
Two things: all factions muck up the works for other factions when the map 'dictates' a common goal for two factions. It happens for all sorts of reasons and is justified for something done to them yesterday.
Bruma and Dragonclaw. DC was not cutoff.
Perhaps cutoff was the wrong word... left us with an unbearably long ride.
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Given the populations, I surprised that 'Team Purple' didn't form.