Should jumping around cost stamina

Strider_Roshin · March 2017

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Irl it would drain stamina . Ever jump rope ? That is so hard to keep doing .

irl a heavy attack would cost stamina, not restore it.

TequilaFire · March 2017

If people only knew how silly they look bunny hopping around in PvP.

Sallington · March 2017

No Khajit nerfs pls.

idk · March 2017

andreasranasen wrote: »

Definitely a no.

This is the appropriate answer.

First, one trial virtually requires jumping and HM requires a minimum of 4 players doing this.

Second, while magika technically doesn't need to block and dodge roll as much due to magika shields there is not an alternative to jumping.

So no.

Izaki · March 2017

I bunny hop cause I find it fun. Only fun on magicka sorc though. On stam classes I got no time for it, aside from while charging up a heavy attack or dizzy swing.

It doesn't have any effect on gameplay because of this thing called tab target.

TheShadowScout · March 2017

Mic1007 wrote: »

If you want jumping to cost Stamina, then summoning your mount should cost Magicka.

I totally would love that one!

Kevin_of_Devinshire · March 2017

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Gilvoth · March 2017

jumping should cost stamina.

zuto40 · March 2017

If you don't hop on console you gotta stop to switch weapons due to the layout of the controller

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO · March 2017

zuto40 wrote: »

If you don't hop on console you gotta stop to switch weapons due to the layout of the controller

then get a custom controller

I have one with extra buttons on the bottom, one is mapped to potions, another is weapon swap and another is to sneak..

My left thumb never touches the Dpad and my right thumb never has to press the R3 button down to sneak..

https://www.cinchgaming.com/dev/configurator/configure/1811/

and don't tell me..."awww i'm Poor..."

Teridaxus · March 2017

Swimming should cost stam too and if you run out of it, you drown and then add a swmming buff to argonians.

STEVIL · March 2017

Sad to say but for a significant period on the early going i thought jumping did burn stamina.

i have seen quite a few bunnie-hoppers and a stream or two touting the benefits of jumping for maneuver and turn in PVP but really i havent see it as significant enough to warrant any serious stamina burn.

So, maybe a little cost?

or maybe even not a cost but more like a "jump reduces stamina recovery for 2s" kind of thing.

Ep1kMalware · March 2017

I'm going to make a really fat old guy tank, named fattylumpkins. And he will be forever out of breath, and can run exactly nowhere. He will always move like he's snared, and never do much. He might need to sit down for a bit.

But that's all ok, because I don't need to get up and mkve to hold aggro.

Bouldercleave · March 2017

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

With all the cost of stamina in the game from abilities to running, walking in sneak and Dodge rolling should jumping also cost stamina

Only when you do it in town like a friggin maniac that needs a Ritalin infusion.

GOD that irritates me when I'm trying to craft or bank...

Necrelios · March 2017

Let's fix jumping altogether! Why did they make it so hard to jump? Jumping should be easy!

Fasold666 · March 2017

No. I am pretty surprised how many players still didn't figure out how powerful 'bunnyhopping' can be when facing multiple attackers, especially when you combine it with a good line of sight use. Parkour is king for 1vx or other outnumbered encounters.

LadyLavina · March 2017

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

With all the cost of stamina in the game from abilities to running, walking in sneak and Dodge rolling should jumping also cost stamina

YES!

Definitely yes!

And then an "athleticism" world skill line (like Legerdemain) that migrates sprinting and jumping and swimming costs...

What you say?

Swimming costs no stamina?

But it Should! Just like jumping!

And it should be affected by your gear... get a speed reduction and stamina cost increase for every piece of armor you wear. Say... a 3% penalty for each piece of light armor, 6% for medium armor, and 15% for heavy armor. And maybe a flat 20% bonus if stripping off your armor altogether.

And possibly even an completely new athletic thing to be added... climbing!
Yes, I think we should be able to scale walls and such like Quen does in the Thieves Guild missions. There should be climbing, not just fade out, appear on top of rope/vine/whatever, but actual climbing on some selected surfaces. Cliff climbing. Wall climbing. Rope climbing. whatever... again, with a stamina cost, armor penalties, and al athleeticism perk that migrates those.

nope, sorry

DHale · March 2017

I used to hate it and I used to laugh at people that did it. I also noticed the very best players did it. Now I can't stop doing it and do it constantly. Being predictable is a liability.

CaineCarver · March 2017

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

With all the cost of stamina in the game from abilities to running, walking in sneak and Dodge rolling should jumping also cost stamina

Yes absolutely, jumping in PvP is a common method of avoiding targeting and should have a small cost associated with it. Mage builds would and should tire eventually from constant jumping. Stamina builds would be less likely to have a problem. Mind you the cost should be small. Nothing like the cost for dodge roll.

This goes to the issue of ESO lacking any real targeting system so PvP is more of a shooter feel rather than traditional MMO combat. It is almost like playing any of the console shooter...feels like my old halo days lol

LadyLavina · March 2017

CaineCarver wrote: »

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

With all the cost of stamina in the game from abilities to running, walking in sneak and Dodge rolling should jumping also cost stamina

Yes absolutely, jumping in PvP is a common method of avoiding targeting and should have a small cost associated with it.

LOLOLOLOL, no...

Not sure if serious. This isn't Skyrim. Aiming attacks isn't a super precise thing. You can hit someone who's jumping around all day long unless they've got shuffle or some other effect active.

Vaoh · March 2017

If the movement we do in-game wasn't so BUGGY people would not feel as compelled to jump so much as they do now.

For a simple example, casting (especially spamming) Healing Ward and Wall of Elements causes you to become immobilized for a quarter second or so. It's very annoying. Casting these bugged skills when you are in the air does not cause this conflict, so it is actually beneficial to jump a lot during combat if casting skills which immobilize you but mostly in PvP.

For a more complex example, weaving and using Medium Attacks in particular (and occasionally Heavy Attacks) is buggy. Inferno/Ice Staves truly suffer from this. The direction your reticle faces/character direction vs the location of the enemy must be nearly perfectly aligned, or these attacks will often bug out. Jumping in the air a bunch while Medium Attack weaving allows your attacks to become significantly more reliable.

Also jumping over tiny objects/inclines and most other things can be really difficult. Bad physics.

But besides all of this, I would rather not make jumping cost Stamina. This is an MMO, and certain features from the single player games should not be in here.

OdinForge · March 2017

LadyLavina · March 2017

OdinForge wrote: »

10/10 on name & reaction

Arthg · March 2017

As long as one can't step over those stupid stumps that are all over the place in Cyro - no.

#impaledonastumpagain

zuto40 · March 2017

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »

zuto40 wrote: »

If you don't hop on console you gotta stop to switch weapons due to the layout of the controller

then get a custom controller

I have one with extra buttons on the bottom, one is mapped to potions, another is weapon swap and another is to sneak..

My left thumb never touches the Dpad and my right thumb never has to press the R3 button down to sneak..

https://www.cinchgaming.com/dev/configurator/configure/1811/

and don't tell me..."awww i'm Poor..."

lmao wtf is this

Eirella · March 2017

Absolutely not

KochDerDamonen · March 2017

Running around the same rock/tree/pole should start sapping stamina after a couple seconds

Maximusx13 · March 2017

Yes it should. Didn't think about this much at first but I started jumping in ranged engagements. It made a difference. I could get farther away and I was faster. I got hit a lot less too. If your not a vamp try it while sneaking. If you are a vamp. WoW talk about covering some ground with nearly no stam consumption. Another big difference is being able to doge attacks. I didn't notice this at first. Then I chased a retreating TANK/dps/healer Temp or DK with just a quarter health left. I might have hit 5 of 20 attacks while he out ran me. I lost count on the hits an misses. I was to amazed by his amazing playing abilities. Needless to say he found friends that healed him and since he was a tank (DK or Temp) he was able to turn around and one shot me with yet another amazing ability. His high dps skills as a tank.
Actually though I died because I could not hit him first. Second I need to learn when to chase. Third I was on a level 16 sorc with only 300cp. He was 600cp with exp.

Does jumping need to cost stam? YES. Will they change it? Probably not. Will I start jumping more? YES. Probably buy a mod. Cronus Max or controller. To automatically spam jump.

Olern · March 2017

Totally agree.. Maybe that would stop all the idiots in Cyrodiil from jumping around like frogs

AFrostWolf · March 2017

Running around trees needs to cost stamina.