Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

I don't understand why people report them. From what i can see it's the same people doing this *** and they're there months later still doing it. If ZoS can't be bothered policing their game when others send in reports, I can't be bothered taking a second out from my gaming time to report them. The first dolmen you stumble upon in Auridon has been full of rubber banders on the PS4 since the 1T update. The entire dolmen is one huge lag fest at nights. Ruins it for those new to the game and visit the dolmen for the first time and ruins it for those who wish to play the game as it's intended to be played.

Of course, there are some people who say it's us that just want to play the game that's got the problem, that we should just go elsewhere and leave those who do this stuff to it. Plenty of other dolmens to be had etc etc etc. No doubt the same people who park their toons there.

People like you also contribute to this issue. I've worked my butt off to get to the point where I am, and these people use bots to do all the work for them while they're away.

Even Blizzard takes it's time on banning bots. Why? To crush the entire program doing the botting. If they banned everything that is reported to them on day one of said botting, the people that make such programs would be 8 steps ahead going, oh they banned this person so this got detected change this, etc. They also do it to build up evidence. Blizzard has sued bot programs and won. League of Legends just won a 10 million dollar suit against botting. As always though, stuff like that takes time.

Keep reporting! The more of a trail you give Zos of when they are on, where, what they are doing, etc, gives them even more info on how to squish the program and in turn, extremely little wiggle room for the botter to say they were 'unrightfully banned'.

>_>

Keep reporting them even if you think it doesnt matter. Alikir still has dolmen drones but Ive seen fewer the last few days.

Who is ? on PC ? Xbox? Ps4? PS4 is last bc its garbage, i use mine as paper weight

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Before anyone says bots don't affect the game, they do. They affect the economy by driving down the market price of mats (by creating oversupply).

Some people might think "who cares" but this creates an unhealthy economy. It also hurts legitimate farmers.

Not true. Dolmen "bots" don't loot anything. All they do is get xp.

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Anti_Virus wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Before anyone says bots don't affect the game, they do. They affect the economy by driving down the market price of mats (by creating oversupply).

Some people might think "who cares" but this creates an unhealthy economy. It also hurts legitimate farmers.

Since I'm a consumer this is great news for me, no more 20K tempering alloys per piece eh? Must be hard to not have a monopoly.

Anyways botting is a problem but This is the only benefit of it

That's the only problem with botting. It ruins the economy.

The reason tempers sell for 20k on console is because you guys don't have access to Master Merchant and Tamriel Trade Centre. This makes it extremely easy for big trading guilds to manipulate market prices.

No, the bigger problems is ruining the gaming experience. At launch, delve bosses were botted to death. You didn't get to actually experience a fight. You also could grab the mats you needed when they disappeared at you approached.

I don't really care about prices dropping.

Has anyone ever seen a game master ingame at all? On loadscreens sometimes I notice the text about them having a Z next to their name, but that's all, and I've been playing since launch. Maybe if they were present more often, botting would be reduced.

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

I don't understand why people report them. From what i can see it's the same people doing this *** and they're there months later still doing it. If ZoS can't be bothered policing their game when others send in reports, I can't be bothered taking a second out from my gaming time to report them. The first dolmen you stumble upon in Auridon has been full of rubber banders on the PS4 since the 1T update. The entire dolmen is one huge lag fest at nights. Ruins it for those new to the game and visit the dolmen for the first time and ruins it for those who wish to play the game as it's intended to be played.

Of course, there are some people who say it's us that just want to play the game that's got the problem, that we should just go elsewhere and leave those who do this stuff to it. Plenty of other dolmens to be had etc etc etc. No doubt the same people who park their toons there.

People like you also contribute to this issue. I've worked my butt off to get to the point where I am, and these people use bots to do all the work for them while they're away.

So are you complaining because they're ruining your immersion, fueling your sense of injustice at having a "cheat" option or both?

PeaNutShotz wrote: »

Most if not almost all mmo's have game sage's. Surprising this is the 1st mmo that I've played that hasn't had themy. Which is really awkward. Idk if zos just doesn't care about the player community or if they're just here to rack in the money from the crown store. The botting and other things on PC is very bad. But all you can do is report and move on or have fun with the botters and pull mobs into them and kill them non stop. Yes it takes time away from your day but it's actually funny

ZOS' method of dealing with bots seems more to work via games development and not gamesmasters.

They do have staff who can look into it but as far as I know these are the same staff who handle support tickets (I've never heard ZOS talk about in house GM staff).

So when issues to do with bottling come up they usally change the game in a way to counter them rather than have an active presence within the game fighting them. Examples are the loot timers on bosses, character delete limit and Jessica posting recently they're looking at solving the Dolmen issues with changing geography/monsters.

What annoys me the most is seems more like corporate profit margins and BS stopping them getting an in house team than ZOS' decision to just not enforce it.

I was lucky enough to get a tour of CCP Games headquarters a couple of years ago and was actually able to go in and see their support/GM office. Just a small room with a bunch of people employed to answer support tickets and GM within the game.
They had a monitor on the wall stating how many tickets were outstanding and how many had been solved today.

Obviously CCP is a smaller company with no parent company and also caters to a smaller player base but I don't see why Zenimax Media and ZOS can't get something like this together on site at their studios to purely focus on botting/exploiting/cheating/cyber security and have the rest of the support tickets for general issues still handled by a support company.

The lag is getting real.

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

So, I'm seeing a heck of a lot more bots now, and I know they've been reported and recorded. I did post a video of bots running around the Drowned Coast dolmen in Greenshade awhile ago. I go there again, and THEY'RE STILL THERE.

Yep, I reported those guys, too.

Note that these guys aren't rubber-banding at the Dolmen, they are running a pre-programmed mudcrab looting circuit.

Auridon used to be my favourite place to burn through enlightenment... you can hit all 3 dolmens in a row within a spawn frame of about 10 minutes... getting CPs every 15 min or so, sometimes less.

I stopped doing it because of these losers though, now only 2 of 3 dolmens are XP viable. The one near the started city is pure cancer. You're lucky if you hit anything - and let's be real, like 75% of a Dolmens XP yield is in the enemies themselves - not closing the anchors. Even if you do hit stuff - you still get it all the time where the boss drops nothing. Or you don't get XP even though your hit clearly registered. (I have an ability that gives health when I hit - and it gives health back, and yet I still don't get my contribution XP).

Half the time the cancer at the first Dolmen is so bad, that grass textures for the entire island of Auridon stop loading for me - leaving the game looking like Play-Doh land. So this issue doesn't just affect Dolmen farming - it actually affects my entire gameplay experience in Auridon. When the map can't load properly because 100 people are standing int he same place spamming, there's an issue.

Even stupider is that while they're ruining the experience for others - they're probably only making 5-20k exp from a dolment because they hardly hit jack sh*t but the last few enemies who spawn where they aim. It would be in everybody's best interest, including their own - if they didn't do this.

Have complained and reported many times and nothing done. So screw it, I left Auridon. And now I grind my daily Enlightenment in a different way.