Why are so many countries exluded from yet another contest??

ShadowHvo · March 2017

Honestly

Zenimax, what?

Myself and quite a few of my friends have been looking forward to this contest ever since its announcement weeks ago, we have builded manors, caves, thieves guild and dark brotherhood guild halls, magical shops and we're even planning to build an arena now too, yet.. We cannot participate in this contest because we live in SWEDEN AND DENMARK!?

What is going on here? Even Norway is in there!

Why do you limit enthuastic and brightly talented people within your playerbase and community from participating in a contest about making virtual homes, because they're from specific country that does not appear on a list?

Its honestly disgraceful. We know you're allowed to send stuff and allow us to participate in our countries, hell, I myself have won TWO contests in the past from you guys, both of which where I was sent real-life merchandise. Namely a Nord Hat, A printed artwork of the beautiful Crows wood, as well as tickets to your Gamescon show in germany.

And even if it were to be legally so, you can give us virtual goods all you want in case real physical prices are the issue. Its shameful, that you do not allow us to participate because of such simple things as a T-Shirt and a lithograph.

NewBlacksmurf · March 2017

Ask the country you live in not ZOS

ShadowHvo · March 2017

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Ask the country you live in not ZOS

Clearly you did not read the post.

imnotanother · March 2017

Your country doesn't participate in sweepstakes.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · March 2017

Not a fan of ZoS but they are based in The United States of America so the laws for contest and give aways may be different. Not sure of the laws of the Europe Union but that may be it.

SirAndy · March 2017

ShadowHvo wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Ask the country you live in not ZOS

Clearly you did not read the post.

Clearly, you didn't understand his response ...

ShadowHvo · March 2017

SirAndy wrote: »

ShadowHvo wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Ask the country you live in not ZOS

Clearly you did not read the post.

Clearly, you didn't understand his response ...

ShadowHvo wrote: »

And even if it were to be legally so, you can give us virtual goods all you want in case real physical prices are the issue. Its shameful, that you do not allow us to participate because of such simple things as a T-Shirt and a lithograph.

Not only is physical merchandise in contests not a problem for either Denmark or Sweden, even if...

Read again, even if that were to be the case, they would be legally and freely allowed to grant us a fair chance of winning the virtual content.

If you do not believe, or fathom that, then you should go and research the matter like the rest of us have under the last contest.

DMuehlhausen · March 2017

ShadowHvo wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Ask the country you live in not ZOS

Clearly you did not read the post.

This is controlled by the country they live in. Depending on the wording it can be considered gambling or some other type of system that is illegal there. It happens in the United States too. There are probably states that are excluded from this contest as well.

Gargath · March 2017

I agree that ZOS should restrain from offering contests which could divide the community. Someone could feel discriminated. Apparently they do care about some subscribers more that the others.

imnotanother · March 2017

ShadowHvo wrote: »

SirAndy wrote: »

ShadowHvo wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Ask the country you live in not ZOS

Clearly you did not read the post.

Clearly, you didn't understand his response ...

ShadowHvo wrote: »

And even if it were to be legally so, you can give us virtual goods all you want in case real physical prices are the issue. Its shameful, that you do not allow us to participate because of such simple things as a T-Shirt and a lithograph.

Not only is physical merchandise in contests not a problem for either Denmark or Sweden, even if...

Read again, even if that were to be the case, they would be legally and freely allowed to grant us a fair chance of winning the virtual content.

If you do not believe, or fathom that, then you should go and research the matter like the rest of us have under the last contest.

ZOS most likely hired a third party service who actually controls the distribution of the prizes.

http://www.mardenkane.com/articles/international-sweepstakes-contest-laws-may-cause-problems.html

NewBlacksmurf · March 2017

ShadowHvo wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Ask the country you live in not ZOS

Clearly you did not read the post.

I don't live in your country but. I did read it. The answer you're seeking isn't as result of ZOS not wanting to involve its active customer bases.....it's a direct limitation far above and outside a game

You would want to familiarize yourself with this information from the source vs asking a party who is only impacted and not part of those decisions. @ShadowHvo

Tandor · March 2017

It isn't just a few countries that are excluded. Believe it or not, we don't all have social media accounts and without a valid Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram account you can't enter regardless of where you live.

Acrolas · March 2017

TLDR laws to consult:

Norway:
The Lottery Act of 24 February 1995
The Marketing Control Act of 9 January 2009

Sweden:
Lotteries Act (1994:1000)
Marketing Act (2008:486)

Denmark:
The Danish Gambling Act (Act no 848/2010 as later amended)
The Danish Marketing Practices Act (Consolidate Act no 58/2012 as later amended)

MAEK · March 2017

imnotanother wrote: »

ShadowHvo wrote: »

SirAndy wrote: »

ShadowHvo wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Ask the country you live in not ZOS

Clearly you did not read the post.

Clearly, you didn't understand his response ...

ShadowHvo wrote: »

And even if it were to be legally so, you can give us virtual goods all you want in case real physical prices are the issue. Its shameful, that you do not allow us to participate because of such simple things as a T-Shirt and a lithograph.

Not only is physical merchandise in contests not a problem for either Denmark or Sweden, even if...

Read again, even if that were to be the case, they would be legally and freely allowed to grant us a fair chance of winning the virtual content.

If you do not believe, or fathom that, then you should go and research the matter like the rest of us have under the last contest.

ZOS most likely hired a third party service who actually controls the distribution of the prizes.

http://www.mardenkane.com/articles/international-sweepstakes-contest-laws-may-cause-problems.html

Wait, what? According to this sweepstakes are banned in Sweden, which they are not. I mean we have lottery, and tons of online gambling. And even if those doesn't count, this is a contest of skill, meaning that there shouldn't be any legal complications for this contest to be availible in Sweden.

alexkdd99 · March 2017

ShadowHvo wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Ask the country you live in not ZOS

Clearly you did not read the post.

Lol you want them to change their contest because YOUR country doesn't allow the contest they are holding.

Do you honestly believe that ZOS doesn't want as many people as possible to be involved? More people = more money. It is all advertising. It is your country, not zos as to why you can't enter the contest. Maybe you should consult with your lawmakers if you don't like it.

TequilaFire · March 2017

Not just countries, we get excluded out of many contests in the State of Florida because of our state law requiring a company running a contest to put up a bond equal to the prize.

starlizard70ub17_ESO · March 2017

Those of us living in New York are excluded also, because of the way the gambling laws are here.

NovaShadow · March 2017

Wow, Australia (save NSW/ACT) is actually included for once.

I'm shocked.

Finally a competition I can enter and it doesn't appeal to me at all.

andreasranasen · March 2017

As a born and raised Swede now an American citizen, I feel sorry that my country isn't included in this Sweepstake... But I think us swedes are good! We prioritize free healthcare and education instead

Hade bra

JasonSilverSpring · March 2017

Well, I hope they actually announce the winners to this contest. I never could find anything announcing the winners to the last contest (the trips to real-world destinations similar to Tamriel locations).

alephthiago · March 2017

Anyone got a link to the contest itself?

cjthibs · March 2017

Gargath wrote: »

I agree that ZOS should restrain from offering contests which could divide the community. Someone could feel discriminated. Apparently they do care about some subscribers more that the others.

So because a small percentage of folks might get offended let's just not do stuff.

You know a small percentage of folks find video games as a whole offensive? Let's just get rid of them too so as to not divide humanity.

WhiteCoatSyndrome · March 2017

alephthiago wrote: »

Anyone got a link to the contest itself?

This. I gather the housing contest has finally been officially announced? (Discounting the mention on ESO live?)

DaveMoeDee · March 2017

Obviously because they hate you.

JasonSilverSpring · March 2017

I think Gina posted it in the wrong place, but here it is:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/328076/official-discussion-thread-for-enter-the-eso-home-decoration-contest

Kram8ion · March 2017

Lol even Norway

ShadowHvo · March 2017

cjthibs wrote: »

Gargath wrote: »

I agree that ZOS should restrain from offering contests which could divide the community. Someone could feel discriminated. Apparently they do care about some subscribers more that the others.

So because a small percentage of folks might get offended let's just not do stuff.

You know a small percentage of folks find video games as a whole offensive? Let's just get rid of them too so as to not divide humanity.

Or you know, simply stop bringing physical goods into the equation and make the contest about virtual items instead, thus you can suddenly bring everyone into the mix.

But no, a T-Shirt and an Artwork has to ensure that plentiful of countries cannot participate in the attempt to win crowns, a digital game and a virtual cave home.

Smart logic, very smart, especially when you could simply have made a contest everyone of their playerbase could've participated in.

dday3six · March 2017

ShadowHvo wrote: »

cjthibs wrote: »

Gargath wrote: »

I agree that ZOS should restrain from offering contests which could divide the community. Someone could feel discriminated. Apparently they do care about some subscribers more that the others.

So because a small percentage of folks might get offended let's just not do stuff.

You know a small percentage of folks find video games as a whole offensive? Let's just get rid of them too so as to not divide humanity.

Or you know, simply stop bringing physical goods into the equation and make the contest about virtual items instead, thus you can suddenly bring everyone into the mix.

But no, a T-Shirt and an Artwork has to ensure that plentiful of countries cannot participate in the attempt to win crowns, a digital game and a virtual cave home.

Smart logic, very smart, especially when you could simply have made a contest everyone of their playerbase could've participated in.

Physical merch and prizes aren't the only disqualifying factor. The laws of some countries require odds of winning to be published for example. Which is not always possible.

alexkdd99 · March 2017

ShadowHvo wrote: »

cjthibs wrote: »

Gargath wrote: »

I agree that ZOS should restrain from offering contests which could divide the community. Someone could feel discriminated. Apparently they do care about some subscribers more that the others.

So because a small percentage of folks might get offended let's just not do stuff.

You know a small percentage of folks find video games as a whole offensive? Let's just get rid of them too so as to not divide humanity.

Or you know, simply stop bringing physical goods into the equation and make the contest about virtual items instead, thus you can suddenly bring everyone into the mix.

But no, a T-Shirt and an Artwork has to ensure that plentiful of countries cannot participate in the attempt to win crowns, a digital game and a virtual cave home.

Smart logic, very smart, especially when you could simply have made a contest everyone of their playerbase could've participated in.

Or they could just do what they are and exclude those countries who have laws that prohibit them. Instead of being upset at zos about the contest YOUR country prohibits you from being able to enter, maybe you should be upset at your country. After all it is them that prohibits it.

ShadowHvo · March 2017

alexkdd99 wrote: »

ShadowHvo wrote: »

cjthibs wrote: »

Gargath wrote: »

I agree that ZOS should restrain from offering contests which could divide the community. Someone could feel discriminated. Apparently they do care about some subscribers more that the others.

So because a small percentage of folks might get offended let's just not do stuff.

You know a small percentage of folks find video games as a whole offensive? Let's just get rid of them too so as to not divide humanity.

Or you know, simply stop bringing physical goods into the equation and make the contest about virtual items instead, thus you can suddenly bring everyone into the mix.

But no, a T-Shirt and an Artwork has to ensure that plentiful of countries cannot participate in the attempt to win crowns, a digital game and a virtual cave home.

Smart logic, very smart, especially when you could simply have made a contest everyone of their playerbase could've participated in.

Or they could just do what they are and exclude those countries who have laws that prohibit them. Instead of being upset at zos about the contest YOUR country prohibits you from being able to enter, maybe you should be upset at your country. After all it is them that prohibits it.

You do not get the point.

Contests such as this is NOT prohibeted in either Denmark or Sweden. We have seen them before from many games companies, INCLUDING Zenimax Online Studios.

SirAndy · March 2017

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ShadowHvo wrote: »

alexkdd99 wrote: »

Or they could just do what they are and exclude those countries who have laws that prohibit them. Instead of being upset at zos about the contest YOUR country prohibits you from being able to enter, maybe you should be upset at your country. After all it is them that prohibits it.

You do not get the point.
Contests such as this is NOT prohibeted in either Denmark or Sweden. We have seen them before from many games companies, INCLUDING Zenimax Online Studios.

And you don't seem to get the point that you are wrong ...