saw 2 people rubber banding controller with destros in the wailing prison had to laugh

I constantly report bots at Myrkwasa Dolmen in Alik'r Desert but they are still there. Each time I visit this place there are bots everywhere. I feel like my reports are pointless and ZOS just sit in their office, laugh and do nothing about it... But they could just log into PC/EU server, go there, find the bots standing on the rocks nearby and spamming light attacks and ban them all. Bots are ALWAYS there.

StackonClown wrote: »

Zenny - Just... just fix it please...

It is annoying to say the least... I feel sorry for new players in the starter zones who would be confused and overwhelmed by all the bot spamming at Anchors.
It's a shame.. I remember when i first came across Dolmens and there were 2 or 3 other players.. It was chaotic but really fun to run the dolmen and complete it..

How do you know they are bots and not just someone holding down the mouse button while watching TV? Do they loot the chest at the end of the dolmen?

Ballzy321 wrote: »

saw 2 people rubber banding controller with destros in the wailing prison had to laugh

You actually saw someone doing this in person, as in, you were in the same room as them? Because if not, then you are just guessing as to what they are doing.

Usually they way it works, is that ZoS gathers information on the bots to find out what programs they are using, once they get that information they put a patch in place to break that program.

W0lf_z13 wrote: »

UppGRAYxDD wrote: »

Technically they are not "bots", just ppl rubber-banding their controllers and for this reason ZOS cannot ban them. If it were an illegal program running the bots, then yes they could and would. I blame this solely on ZOS because all they have to do is remove the "safe zones" that allow them to afk farm. The other "bot" most see are sorcs (usually low level ones) using pets and destro hvy attacking everything in an area while one of them picks up all the loot. This is usually someone with multiple consoles or pc accounts with multiple rubberbands. These bots are actually getting booted, albeit they just make new phony accounts and rinse repeat.

it has actually been stated that rubber banding your controller is against TOS and action could be taken on your account

Quote from Jessica
"Recently, some of you have asked if it’s okay to put tape or a rubber band on your controller. The short answer is “No.” Automating your character in any way, including placing tape or a rubber-band on a console controller, is considered a violation of our Terms of Service, and action may be taken on your account. You must be actively controlling your character."

found here
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3858917#Comment_3858917

how can they tell that said gamer isn't just holding down the button? This is why there will be nothing done about it. I agree tho, there should be something done when ppl continually report these exploiters with concrete video evidence multiple times

Also keep in mind that they said the more people to report a specific player, the more resources they devote to investigation. After all, there are probably some players reporting someone they 'think' is a bot, or perhaps even some type of 'revenge' type of reporting... and ZOS has to sift through all of this... and with the sheer number of reports, they probably don't have a ton of people devoted to this type of investigation. Further, if everyone decides to stop reporting, that means the less priority an investigation is given on an individual. So they will stop reporting but still come to the forums, rant and rave about bots, but while somehow expecting that someone else is reporting those players.

Every person has to do their part if this is going to stop, while also realizing that ZOS isn't going to just wave a wand and BAN players without first sending them a warning, then probably a second warning, and THEN a ban... and even then it might only be a temp ban... until a fourth occurrence. This is just a guess on my part, but I don't see ZOS, who is in the business of making money, simply perma-banning PAID accounts without first going through a series of warnings... which obviously takes TIME.

StackonClown wrote: »

PS: I cant be bothered reporting them anymore.. I'm over it.. Zenny needs to take over now.. Enough of asking us to 'report every botter'.. For what? we go back and there they are again!

don't stop reporting! If you see a bot or a rubberbander and don't report it, you become part of the problem so to speak. Botting and rubberbanding are both against TOS and are reportable offenses, and ZOS needs us to report them, otherwise they will never be dealt with. It might seem like a fruitless effort, but please always report them!

This is not botting

Zeni are incompetent at combating botting in ESO, or 3rd party programs in general. Mainly because they based the foundation code to be client side to try and leech the most off players computers and they simply haven't/wont invest in anti cheating GM's.


Z0$ have left the majority of poicing the game to players. Which is kinda fine, if they acted on the heaps and heaps of info supplied to them, rather than ignoring it. Reference the Cheating and Exploiting thread, where many players have reported tyime and time again, over a period of weeks and nothing was done to botters and multi-boxing.


Personally i used the reporting form maybe 4 times. Quickly learned it was a waste of my play time, so never did again and over the last 2 years, will never use again.

At dolmens how does this even affect anyone else? It's not like they are taking loot away from you. Okay, so there are a few more adds to fight through to get to the boss. You have extra DPS on the boss, so the boss dies faster, so that's a wash. You still get the same loot no matter how many people/bots are there. SO, why do you even care?

SunTzuJJ_ESO wrote: »

This is not botting

True. And your point is?

Fleshreaper wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Fleshreaper wrote: »

At dolmens how does this even affect anyone else? It's not like they are taking loot away from you. Okay, so there are a few more adds to fight through to get to the boss. You have extra DPS on the boss, so the boss dies faster, so that's a wash. You still get the same loot no matter how many people/bots are there. SO, why do you even care?

Boss loot only goes to the top 12 damage/healing dealers. The bots are not even interested in the loot. Hopefully, some bot is not stealing loot from a player by doing too much damage.

It is against the ToS, and that is really all the reason anyone needs.

And if you as a person can't out DPS a bot doing heavy attacks, you do not deserve any loot. So, as long as there is a person pressing the mouse button than it's NOT against the ToS and that is really all the reason anyone needs.

If they keep doing it multiple times they could be considered to be flagged as a bot, especially if they do it in the same exact location everytime like most bots do.

Fleshreaper wrote: »

At dolmens how does this even affect anyone else? It's not like they are taking loot away from you. Okay, so there are a few more adds to fight through to get to the boss. You have extra DPS on the boss, so the boss dies faster, so that's a wash. You still get the same loot no matter how many people/bots are there. SO, why do you even care?

Because is ruins the integrity of the game. If ZOS doesn't punish those that play outside the rules then that means there are no consequences for cheating, botting, afk xp farming and the game dies. Not punishing people that play outside the rules is the easiest way to drive away legitimate players. Players that would otherwise recommend others buy the game, or buy crowns, or subcribe, buy and play DLC. You know, do things to keep the servers up.

I've reported bots and sick the *** they need to do something about it period

SunTzuJJ_ESO wrote: »

gard wrote: »

SunTzuJJ_ESO wrote: »

This is not botting

True. And your point is?

My point is it is impossible for a player to tell the difference between this, and someone using a rubberband.

You don't know, so leave people alone.

Report them anyway. It is not up to the players to determine whether someone is botting. It is up to ZOS. If it acts like a bot, report it as a bot.