ZOS will balance it for PvP and won't care what that does to PvE because PvPers complain more.

Don't get me wrong, there's a lot wrong with PvP that there are justified complaints about - that doesn't mean PvE should get nerfed though.

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I would want them to balance PvE and PvP on their own. (By for example make it so skills deal different amount of damage to PvE enemies than to players/player pets. Or making certan skills have different effects against players than they have against mobs). But I doubt it will happen.

I have a feeling the No-CP was more then just a test....it was a feeler to see the real difference between CP vs NO-CP on a large scale. With Battlegrounds coming up, this data may allow ZOS to come to a happy middle ground(Only allowing 160-200 CP to actually be active in PVP and Battlegrounds, while leaving 600 for PVE)

They can't leave the game balance how it is right now for Battlegrounds. Every Class has a cheese setup right now that can be either nearly impossible to kill or dish out stupid amounts of damage. I am not going to go into detail what those are.The most common one is 5 Reactive 5 Lich 2 Malabeth(or another tanky monster set) on a Sword and Board Templar....the guy would have to be away rom his keyboard or asleep to kill one of those guys in any kinda of group. This will be even worse if it stays the same in Battlegrounds.

Its not just class balance, One Tamriel caused a lot of itemization issues. You shouldn't be able to get every set in every piece and jewelry...it allows for these truly ridiclious setups everyone complains about.

If they want Battlegrounds to be a success, they are going to have to make MAJOR changes...im not talking about just nerfs either...im talking about legit balance changes, from gear and itemization to CP, to classes and all things in between.

There as some aspects that are woefully underpowered, and some aspects that are brutally overpowered...they need to bring the OP stuff down, and bring the UP stuff slightly up....whatever they think something needs to be buffed up to subtract 20%....

I'll just wait and see, but i got a feeling Battlegrounds will be dominated by a few cheese setups and class specs, and if thats the case its popularity won't last long.

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I think a pretty large nerf hammer will be coming with Morrowind....just a hunch....im not talking like the small nerfs we had before but major major ones....just have to wait and see.

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Yes, back during launch it was an lot of arguing about no small group pvp because of balance issues.
Downside of small scale PvP is that balance issues is so visible, that is balance issues for small scale PvP.

That was then we had soft caps on stats and none of the overpowered proc sets.
Today it will be way harder, if they try to balance for 4x4x4 both Cyrodil and pve will suffer.
Let say we list the classes and setup who win a lot: then nerf them. Now buff some of the weaker setups who no good players use as they are weak.
Repeat and repeat.

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ZOS wont disable certain class ablities for battlegrounds, just look at some of the streamers that had a sneak peak to see what builds they are getting ready for it eg deltias magblade.

In the first week these forums will be filled with nerf threads and Im quitting posts till <x> is balanced/fixed.
So unlike deltia whos preparing a battleground magblade build, im stocking up on popcorn and waiting for those salty tears to start flowing.

Is it that big of a mystery concerning ZoS's history?

They will do nothing.

ZOS SMASH!

With Morrowind Yogi; since you're paying a good amount of money for the expansion I expect to see the biggest change compared to other patches. You feel me? This is an actual expansion not some dlc. If however they treat this like dlc or even worst and do not improve, I won't be amused. Let's just say they better have two times as more than an average patch note. I only have expectations because a company is sending out their first major product(expansion) and it is big; new class/trial/battleground. So yeah I believe they will do positive things!...Or should be. Also easy up on cloak cuh I neeed thaat lol.

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What's the point of "balancing" a mode where everyone has access to different gear and can be different levels? That game will always be inherently unbalanced.

This so much, the first problem is the gear and CPs unbalance. Also premade groups vs pugs. Then you can start worrying about classes like other games do. Also the reason why I don't think I'll play BGs.

Battle Ground for going to kill Cyrodiil. Battlegrounds only be available to those with the Morrowind DLC. Battlegrounds will offer unique gear likely much more powerful than that of available in cyrodiil. I've been playing this game too long... there are so many things to rant about that this is the last straw for myself and many others who will be seeking an alternative game when this BS is released. Companies only make Battlegrounds when PVP fails.

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Battle Ground for going to kill Cyrodiil. Battlegrounds only be available to those with the Morrowind DLC. Battlegrounds will offer unique gear likely much more powerful than that of available in cyrodiil. I've been playing this game too long... there are so many things to rant about that this is the last straw for myself and many others who will be seeking an alternative game when this BS is released. Companies only make Battlegrounds when PVP fails.

90% of the pvp community has been begging for small scale pvp since day.

And maybe Q times will from 80 to 30 when people wanna play in prime time.

Every new monster set and crafted set has "killed" pvp. But If it's so dead why are you even here?

Lol why are you here? Next is, can I have your stuff?

I'm here at the moment because I have invested my time and money since day one of this project thank you.

And is this 90% of the 10 people you spoke to? Because I am in four of the largest PVP guilds and generally share the same consensus. That's a better than % of whatever statistic you pulled out of your head.