Prediction: No more major update on homestead

Lyserus · March 2017

ZOS is dead slience on it and trying hard to move everyone's attention on Morrowind. Not trying to be bitter but the only possible update will be storage with 1 slot for each container furniture （and of course you won't be able to store craft mats）.
No NPC in the house. No better assistants in house, no other toons in it, no animation for mounts and pets and other new functions in the near future.

I sincerely hope ZOS can slap me in the face, but for now I suggest everyone Carry my Prediction in mind when buying new houses

Betheny · March 2017

Doom! DOOM! We are all doomed!!

alexkdd99 · March 2017

I wanted to make a zoo, but can't because they put the limit at 10. If I spend the money on a manor I should be able to make whatever I want.

I am not sure what they have planned, but I do know they said this would not be all that there is to housing. Now they very well may change their minds like they have in the past. But I sure hope not. I would greatly like to see a good size housing update, with or before the morrowind update.

Lyserus · March 2017

alexkdd99 wrote: »

I wanted to make a zoo, but can't because they put the limit at 10. If I spend the money on a manor I should be able to make whatever I want.

I am not sure what they have planned, but I do know they said this would not be all that there is to housing. Now they very well may change their minds like they have in the past. But I sure hope not. I would greatly like to see a good size housing update, with or before the morrowind update.

The Possible updates on homestead are when Earthtear Cavern and Topal island release… we shall see will there be anything new released on 9th

KingYogi415 · March 2017

Be grateful for what you got!

It's better then nothing which is what pvp'ers get almost every time.

idk · March 2017

Zos tends to not repeat themselves (many thread on housing have been answered by Zos already) nor say anything they are not ready to say so speculation is just that and nothing more. It is good business to not discuss anything the company is not ready to reveal.

It not only controls the conversation and fuels speculation (think how successful Apple was with not discussing iphone models, fee advertising) but it also prevents providing information on aspects that change.

Lyserus · March 2017

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Zos tends to not repeat themselves (many thread on housing have been answered by Zos already) nor say anything they are not ready to say so speculation is just that and nothing more. It is good business to not discuss anything the company is not ready to reveal.

It not only controls the conversation and fuels speculation (think how successful Apple was with not discussing iphone models, fee advertising) but it also prevents providing information on aspects that change.

…and yet they are hying so hard on Morrowind

Jim_Pipp · March 2017

+1 the op.

While many people like homestead, many others don't, and I expect this update will be remembered by zos and by players as underwhelming or a disappointment. Given that zos have had a lot of opportunities to hint at future development (the year ahead came out during what should have been the homestead hype phase) I believe their silence is an admission of defeat, and we won't see significant development of the housing system (although we will see more incredible crown store exclusive homes).

Tandor · March 2017

I'm sure there will be plenty of updates to the housing system as they've already indicated the present setup is only the start. That doesn't mean that if it isn't updated by 4pm on Thursday next that they lied and aren't going to do anything at all with it. Morrowind is clearly a significant undertaking and I wouldn't personally expect any major enhancements to the housing system prior to that. Sometimes it pays to have a little patience.

Cpt_Teemo · March 2017

Hey at least we have ME4 coming up on the 21st

Korah_Eaglecry · March 2017

I agree with you to an extent. I think Housing was never intended to be expanded upon and that it was always meant to be another thing in the game that you had to approach from the Crown Store.

Matt admits that the vast majority of players are casuals who come and go with the updates. So who are likely to turn to the Crown Store to get the things they dont have the time to get in game? Those very players that leave a few weeks after every update. And now that they have the excuse that their metrics show that very few players have fully upgraded their bags/banks. Its unlikely theyll ever spend the money to expand on inventory for not just Housing but everything else.

idk · March 2017

Lyserus wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Zos tends to not repeat themselves (many thread on housing have been answered by Zos already) nor say anything they are not ready to say so speculation is just that and nothing more. It is good business to not discuss anything the company is not ready to reveal.

It not only controls the conversation and fuels speculation (think how successful Apple was with not discussing iphone models, fee advertising) but it also prevents providing information on aspects that change.

…and yet they are hying so hard on Morrowind

hying? Message lost in translation.

If you are talking about Zos releasing information about Morrowind already then I would refer you back to the several months before Housing was released to find multiple mentions of housing by Zos.

Regardless, you prove my point exactly, Zos is controling the message about Morrowind and releasing that iformation when they are ready.

Further, and more importantly to the subject of the OP, we already know there will be updates to housing in Morrowind. Zos has already released high level information on that.

and Finally, Zos will never add everything into housing, or the game, that is mentioned in these forums. Some ideas they will. Some ideas are down right good ideas while others are not worth the time to make them happen. It is life and if one can hold a pessimistic view that since Zos has not mentioned what they want to hear changes are a dead issue if they want to hold that view.

stevepdodson_ESO888 · March 2017

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Be grateful for what you got!

It's better then nothing which is what pvp'ers get almost every time.

i was just about o agree with you when i remembered about the "almost free" AP that ZOS are giving away with Bleakers farming and double gains

so many players are now GO it's sad

Gandrhulf_Harbard · March 2017

KingYogi415 wrote: »

It's better then nothing which is what pvp'ers get almost every time.

Well apart from EVERY patch being about ruining PvE to balance things for the small percentage of players that actually PvP.

All The Best

IwakuraLain42 · March 2017

In case you haven't figured out ZOS schedule yet: they update the game (featurewise) every 3-4 months, the next updates are Morrowind, a dungeon DLC and a small story DLC. I'm sure they will contain housing features, but there will be no extra housing specific update in between.

Gandrhulf_Harbard · March 2017

Tandor wrote: »

I'm sure there will be plenty of updates to the housing system as they've already indicated the present setup is only the start. That doesn't mean that if it isn't updated by 4pm on Thursday next that they lied and aren't going to do anything at all with it. Morrowind is clearly a significant undertaking and I wouldn't personally expect any major enhancements to the housing system prior to that. Sometimes it pays to have a little patience.

While I agree with in general I'll just add this: how's having a little patience working out for you (and me) regarding the parlous state of trade access in this game?

All The Best

Lyserus · March 2017

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Lyserus wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Zos tends to not repeat themselves (many thread on housing have been answered by Zos already) nor say anything they are not ready to say so speculation is just that and nothing more. It is good business to not discuss anything the company is not ready to reveal.

It not only controls the conversation and fuels speculation (think how successful Apple was with not discussing iphone models, fee advertising) but it also prevents providing information on aspects that change.

…and yet they are hying so hard on Morrowind

hying? Message lost in translation.

If you are talking about Zos releasing information about Morrowind already then I would refer you back to the several months before Housing was released to find multiple mentions of housing by Zos.

Regardless, you prove my point exactly, Zos is controling the message about Morrowind and releasing that iformation when they are ready.

Further, and more importantly to the subject of the OP, we already know there will be updates to housing in Morrowind. Zos has already released high level information on that.

and Finally, Zos will never add everything into housing, or the game, that is mentioned in these forums. Some ideas they will. Some ideas are down right good ideas while others are not worth the time to make them happen. It is life and if one can hold a pessimistic view that since Zos has not mentioned what they want to hear changes are a dead issue if they want to hold that view.

The only mentiom of housing in Morrowind is that there will be more houses…and that's it. So now we look back to homestead announcement, what they said about “this is only the beginning” actually means “more houses”. They didn't Say anything about function update.

Don't get me wrong, I really hope ZOS is bringing more functions, but homestead is more likely just another quarter products and ZOS wasted the potential of it （like Pledge of Mara, thieves guild and dark brotherhood, housing has so much potential but ZOS decided to make them a quarter plan ）

altemriel · March 2017

Lyserus wrote: »

ZOS is dead slience on it and trying hard to move everyone's attention on Morrowind. Not trying to be bitter but the only possible update will be storage with 1 slot for each container furniture （and of course you won't be able to store craft mats）.
No NPC in the house. No better assistants in house, no other toons in it, no animation for mounts and pets and other new functions in the near future.

I sincerely hope ZOS can slap me in the face, but for now I suggest everyone Carry my Prediction in mind when buying new houses

nope, everything is going to get updated, regularly

zaria · March 2017

Lyserus wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Lyserus wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Zos tends to not repeat themselves (many thread on housing have been answered by Zos already) nor say anything they are not ready to say so speculation is just that and nothing more. It is good business to not discuss anything the company is not ready to reveal.

It not only controls the conversation and fuels speculation (think how successful Apple was with not discussing iphone models, fee advertising) but it also prevents providing information on aspects that change.

…and yet they are hying so hard on Morrowind

hying? Message lost in translation.

If you are talking about Zos releasing information about Morrowind already then I would refer you back to the several months before Housing was released to find multiple mentions of housing by Zos.

Regardless, you prove my point exactly, Zos is controling the message about Morrowind and releasing that iformation when they are ready.

Further, and more importantly to the subject of the OP, we already know there will be updates to housing in Morrowind. Zos has already released high level information on that.

and Finally, Zos will never add everything into housing, or the game, that is mentioned in these forums. Some ideas they will. Some ideas are down right good ideas while others are not worth the time to make them happen. It is life and if one can hold a pessimistic view that since Zos has not mentioned what they want to hear changes are a dead issue if they want to hold that view.

The only mentiom of housing in Morrowind is that there will be more houses…and that's it. So now we look back to homestead announcement, what they said about “this is only the beginning” actually means “more houses”. They didn't Say anything about function update.

Don't get me wrong, I really hope ZOS is bringing more functions, but homestead is more likely just another quarter products and ZOS wasted the potential of it （like Pledge of Mara, thieves guild and dark brotherhood, housing has so much potential but ZOS decided to make them a quarter plan ）

One thing I would love would be interaction, simply picking up an glass of wine and do the drink animation.
that is simply an emote trigger, despawn the glass like it it with food and glasses on tables now.
activate bed to lay down this would be very simple to implement and would add an lot to immersion and rp.

Next on list is storage, is an nice alternative to bank alts.
Pets moving around and servants who walk around and do stuff would be next, service npc too.

Housing will be updated, its both an gold sink and give sales in crown store.

idk · March 2017

Lyserus wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Lyserus wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Zos tends to not repeat themselves (many thread on housing have been answered by Zos already) nor say anything they are not ready to say so speculation is just that and nothing more. It is good business to not discuss anything the company is not ready to reveal.

It not only controls the conversation and fuels speculation (think how successful Apple was with not discussing iphone models, fee advertising) but it also prevents providing information on aspects that change.

…and yet they are hying so hard on Morrowind

hying? Message lost in translation.

If you are talking about Zos releasing information about Morrowind already then I would refer you back to the several months before Housing was released to find multiple mentions of housing by Zos.

Regardless, you prove my point exactly, Zos is controling the message about Morrowind and releasing that iformation when they are ready.

Further, and more importantly to the subject of the OP, we already know there will be updates to housing in Morrowind. Zos has already released high level information on that.

and Finally, Zos will never add everything into housing, or the game, that is mentioned in these forums. Some ideas they will. Some ideas are down right good ideas while others are not worth the time to make them happen. It is life and if one can hold a pessimistic view that since Zos has not mentioned what they want to hear changes are a dead issue if they want to hold that view.

The only mentiom of housing in Morrowind is that there will be more houses…and that's it. So now we look back to homestead announcement, what they said about “this is only the beginning” actually means “more houses”. They didn't Say anything about function update.

Don't get me wrong, I really hope ZOS is bringing more functions, but homestead is more likely just another quarter products and ZOS wasted the potential of it （like Pledge of Mara, thieves guild and dark brotherhood, housing has so much potential but ZOS decided to make them a quarter plan ）

and housing was the focus of homestead. It is clear they will not say tons about housing for Morrowind since housing is not the focus.

I also guarantee housing will get additions other than the two new homes. Absolutely guarantee and have a general idea of some things to expect. New furnishings. A new achievement furnishings vendor. Maybe even new plans for crafting more items. Hopefully in there is a new large dwemer statue.

Although will they make changes with the Morrowind expansion like adding storage, no. Allowing the sharing as true co-owners or some change permitting the appearance of co-owners, prob never.

MythicEmperor · March 2017

Homestead? What? Morrowind morrowind morrowind morrowind!!!

In all seriousness, the tiniest amount of kwama eggs I gave about homestead after the prices came out where squashed by Morrowind. I had enough money saved up over months to buy a large house (which I originally thought would be more than enough for a manor), but after they confirmed housing in Vvardenfell, I will just wait for my Telvanni tower

Lyserus · March 2017

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Lyserus wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Lyserus wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Zos tends to not repeat themselves (many thread on housing have been answered by Zos already) nor say anything they are not ready to say so speculation is just that and nothing more. It is good business to not discuss anything the company is not ready to reveal.

It not only controls the conversation and fuels speculation (think how successful Apple was with not discussing iphone models, fee advertising) but it also prevents providing information on aspects that change.

…and yet they are hying so hard on Morrowind

hying? Message lost in translation.

If you are talking about Zos releasing information about Morrowind already then I would refer you back to the several months before Housing was released to find multiple mentions of housing by Zos.

Regardless, you prove my point exactly, Zos is controling the message about Morrowind and releasing that iformation when they are ready.

Further, and more importantly to the subject of the OP, we already know there will be updates to housing in Morrowind. Zos has already released high level information on that.

and Finally, Zos will never add everything into housing, or the game, that is mentioned in these forums. Some ideas they will. Some ideas are down right good ideas while others are not worth the time to make them happen. It is life and if one can hold a pessimistic view that since Zos has not mentioned what they want to hear changes are a dead issue if they want to hold that view.

The only mentiom of housing in Morrowind is that there will be more houses…and that's it. So now we look back to homestead announcement, what they said about “this is only the beginning” actually means “more houses”. They didn't Say anything about function update.

Don't get me wrong, I really hope ZOS is bringing more functions, but homestead is more likely just another quarter products and ZOS wasted the potential of it （like Pledge of Mara, thieves guild and dark brotherhood, housing has so much potential but ZOS decided to make them a quarter plan ）

and housing was the focus of homestead. It is clear they will not say tons about housing for Morrowind since housing is not the focus.

I also guarantee housing will get additions other than the two new homes. Absolutely guarantee and have a general idea of some things to expect. New furnishings. A new achievement furnishings vendor. Maybe even new plans for crafting more items. Hopefully in there is a new large dwemer statue.

Although will they make changes with the Morrowind expansion like adding storage, no. Allowing the sharing as true co-owners or some change permitting the appearance of co-owners, prob never.

Yeah i am sure they will. But function update is what i am talking about. And like u said those are unlikely

idk · March 2017

I said specific functionality is not expected with Morrowind. For one, it is completely clear no one should expect any home storage to be added with Morrowind. Zos made it clear that was not on their to-do-list ATM and the reasons why. Home sharing as I said will likely never dome. It is not worth the work and would likely reduce the revenues.

I doubt functionality is added with the update, but that has absolutely no bearing on any changes they are considering for the future.

It is fine to speculate Zos will never do anything more though there is no basis for that speculation. Zos is being wise in not discussing it until they feel the time is right. It would be poor business communication practices to discuss rough ideas publicly just because someone created a thread on it.

xaraan · March 2017

I truly think people should get mass storage out of their heads with homes. It's not a single player game, balance has to be considered and giving unlimited storage or high amounts isn't something they are going to do. Making banks and guild banks and crafting bags less relevant and less reason to increase isn't something they should or probably will do either.

If you expect housing to solve all your storage needs, you'll be salty every time. I'd at most expect some sort of weapon rack and mannequin that you can either buy in crown store or get gold recipe for that you can put a limited number of in certain size homes that will allow you to store some extra equipment sets on. Don't expect to see the ability to run in and dump all your gear into one chest like you can in Skyrim or Fallout.

DaveMoeDee · March 2017

Homestead is better than I expected. There are lots of recipes to sell. That is the extent of my interest. I'm all for more recipes.

willlienellson · March 2017

The extent that Zos underachieves saddens me greatly.
The untapped potential is infuriating.

From dozens of things, lets just pick NPCs for example.
We have 2 NPCs we can buy. Neither of which are fully functional. Both existed before Homestead.

Meanwhile, there are bard NPCs already in the game that could be added to homestead with very little work.

Everything is relative.
Relative to having no housing, Homestead is really good. Relative to what it could be and should be, it's F'ing sucks.

Gorgoneus · March 2017

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Be grateful for what you got!

It's better then nothing which is what pvp'ers get almost every time.

Are you mad? People paying their money to this game and only you can say is that trash?

Tandor · March 2017

Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

I'm sure there will be plenty of updates to the housing system as they've already indicated the present setup is only the start. That doesn't mean that if it isn't updated by 4pm on Thursday next that they lied and aren't going to do anything at all with it. Morrowind is clearly a significant undertaking and I wouldn't personally expect any major enhancements to the housing system prior to that. Sometimes it pays to have a little patience.

While I agree with in general I'll just add this: how's having a little patience working out for you (and me) regarding the parlous state of trade access in this game?

All The Best

I don't expect the trading system to be changed, so patience doesn't come into it. That won't stop me lobbying for change, of course. Meanwhile I continue to use most things among my characters, and the surplus is banked if valuable or sold to merchants if not. The trading system is actually my only fault with the game, and I can live with a single fault

!

Tandor · March 2017

xaraan wrote: »

I truly think people should get mass storage out of their heads with homes. It's not a single player game, balance has to be considered and giving unlimited storage or high amounts isn't something they are going to do. Making banks and guild banks and crafting bags less relevant and less reason to increase isn't something they should or probably will do either.

If you expect housing to solve all your storage needs, you'll be salty every time. I'd at most expect some sort of weapon rack and mannequin that you can either buy in crown store or get gold recipe for that you can put a limited number of in certain size homes that will allow you to store some extra equipment sets on. Don't expect to see the ability to run in and dump all your gear into one chest like you can in Skyrim or Fallout.

I agree. I'm afraid that those who see the sole purpose of housing as being the addition of storage simply don't get the purpose of housing at all, and likely never will.

Jenadara · March 2017

Betheny wrote: »

Doom! DOOM! We are all doomed!!

*giggle* ~~Cannibal the Musical~~

AlienatedGoat · March 2017

Sure is a lot of doom and gloom on these forums. Ya'll need to cheer up and try to keep it positive. Seriously.