Best Faction eu pc

lordmuro123 · December 2016

What is the best alliance for cyrodil eu pc and which of them have more ppl over all?

Master_Kas · December 2016

Join EP if you want most challanging PvP atm since they usually have the lowest queues/populations overall. While AD and DC are pretty equal just taking turns on zerging down the map and PvDooring in the morning.

Enslaved · December 2016

If you want populated campaign Trueflame is way to go.
No matter what alliance you choose, you will get AP fast.
AD have several TS coordinated groups, they mostly just destro ulti zerg.
DC has similar but I encounter many more simple pugs on their side.
EP is under attack from both enemy alliances most of the time.
Pick what you like the most, but know that all depends on how much effort you are willing to make.
Best would be to join PvP guild that has large population and use voice communication for their actions.

Alucardo · December 2016

Master_Kas wrote: »

Join EP if you want most challanging PvP atm since they usually have the lowest queues/populations overall. While AD and DC are pretty equal just taking turns on zerging down the map and PvDooring in the morning.

I can agree with this. Most of the time it feels like just DC vs AD, except on Haderus where the most cancerous group ever bred has clawed themselves onto the campaign and won't let go.
Haven't been on EU for a little while so I'm not sure if it's still the case, but it was enough for DC and AD to leave the campaign.
On Trueflame, I think both AD and DC are pretty close in terms of population, but AD may have slightly more.

Valencer · December 2016

Alucardo wrote: »

Master_Kas wrote: »

Join EP if you want most challanging PvP atm since they usually have the lowest queues/populations overall. While AD and DC are pretty equal just taking turns on zerging down the map and PvDooring in the morning.

I can agree with this. Most of the time it feels like just DC vs AD, except on Haderus where the most cancerous group ever bred has clawed themselves onto the campaign and won't let go.
Haven't been on EU for a little while so I'm not sure if it's still the case, but it was enough for DC and AD to leave the campaign.
On Trueflame, I think both AD and DC are pretty close in terms of population, but AD may have slightly more.

AD outnumbers everyone 2 to 1 or even 3 to 1 during the off-hours. DC really can't keep up with that.

Biro123 · December 2016

Valencer wrote: »

AD outnumbers everyone 2 to 1 or even 3 to 1 during the off-hours. DC really can't keep up with that.

True that..

Also DC are stupid. All they ever do is push Chal, That is it. No matter what AD are taking behind the lines. DC will happily lose everything to AD but Bleakers - and still happily try to zerg EP at Chal.

No matter how many times AD win the campaign, they'll still keep pushing EP, leaving AD to control the rest of the map.

Avaglaor · December 2016

For the OP, define "best" ,
AD have more numbers late at night-early morning so they are wining every TF campaign for the last months,
DC are happy with the 2nd place or even better they are happy to see EP at the last place so they are only attack EP keeps
EP does not [SNIP] for the campaign coz of the current situation and mostly farming AP at Arrius lumber and the bridge of points.

All 3 alliances have organized PvP guilds that you can join and have fun, but if you want to win campaigns (for 0 rewards) join AD

(edited for profanity)

MipMip · December 2016

lordmuro123 wrote: »

What is the best alliance for cyrodil eu pc and which of them have more ppl over all?

Which alliance has the most people? Easy to answer - AD, followed by DC (which also means: EP has the fastest queue

)

Which is the best? Not easy to answer - depends on what you like. AD is winning campaign after campaign, but EP may be the most interesting to play. There are PvP guilds with organized raids using TS in each alliance, and the more important question may be for you to find a guild that is right for you.

prootch · December 2016

Avaglaor wrote: »

DC are happy with the 2nd place or even better they are happy to see EP at the last place so they are only attack EP keeps

That's pure EP fantasm

Avaglaor · December 2016

prootch wrote: »

That's pure EP fantasm

One hour ago we had 100 AD at BRK, Ash was Yellow, still DC were attacking Chalman...

Pure EP fantasm is Arrius Lumber, see you there.

prootch · December 2016

Ah... we are not playing on the same campaign obvioulsy.

tf being the main pvp campaing atm... AD was going for emp this morning, got chal and brk, then ash, dc def aleswell then retaged both chal and ash yellow keeps...

Now our guild very seldom goes to arrius lumber on tf... the hole nowadays is at the bridge or on roe farm.

Ghettokid · December 2016

Orsimer-clan

VagabondAngel · December 2016

prootch wrote: »

Ah... we are not playing on the same campaign obvioulsy.

I don't think you even live on the same planet, Prootch.

prootch · December 2016

Well... chain bs on forums does not change ingame reality day to day, that's for sure. Yesterday evening, both ad and ep on ash defended by dc

so much for arrius.

Avaglaor · December 2016

prootch wrote: »

Well... chain bs on forums does not change ingame reality day to day, that's for sure. Yesterday evening, both ad and ep on ash defended by dc so much for arrius.

Obviously we are not playing in the same campaign, I'm on trueflame.

prootch · December 2016

Rofl ! man obviously you have not playing at all the said evenings... or just loving forum bs.

As for last evening anyway, reds got a heavy double focus with ad emp on spawn keeps and scrolls and dc on chal. Maybe if ep had the strats to push on ad emp instead of coming to ales, they would not get the immediate backfire

Avaglaor · December 2016

My group spent all the evening trying to split yellows between Drake and Seji so we could get BRK back but we were getting zerged from ADs every single time, at the end everyone joined Chalman's zerg vs zerg vs zerg while 100 yellows taking our keeps and scrolls.
Ash ofc was Yellow again but DC always want their "home keep" Chalman. I'm not loving forum bs at all and I rarely writing on forums...

Anyway we are off topic, war is war... Cyrodiil is not about controlling the map anymore, its about fighting with the non skill mechanics that ZoS is putting in the game..

Hymzir · December 2016

Avaglaor wrote: »

My group spent all the evening trying to split yellows between Drake and Seji so we could get BRK back but we were getting zerged from ADs every single time, at the end everyone joined Chalman's zerg vs zerg vs zerg while 100 yellows taking our keeps and scrolls.
Ash ofc was Yellow again but DC always want their "home keep" Chalman. I'm not loving forum bs at all and I rarely writing on forums...

Well... For what it's worth, there was plenty of DC side zone chatter about the futility of going to Chalman, and that perhaps it would be more useful to head towards Ash. But the end result was, that most people who bothered to comment on the discussion noted that going to Ash was pointless, since that would mean getting run over by a 100 strong Eye of Flame spamming zerg, and that is not fun at all. At least in Chalman you could have decent fights and actually enjoy the game.

I spent several hours trying to get a fight going with AD but only managed to be run over every single time. Even when running solo and encountering half a dozen yellow players, I invariably got spammed with eye of flame and negate (which shut me down since since I run a magicka character) and constant roots - which are also really bad for me since I have low stamina. I'd be lucky to be able to get one or two attacks off before being locked out of magicka skills, rooted/stunned/feared to oblivion, and then killed by eye of flame. It was not fun at all.

In the end, I just gave up, and joined every other blue at Chalman, and actually had a fun and decent fight with the reds, and ended up having a positive feeling when I logged off.

I did note that while that was happening, the AD zerg-horde decided to go for a red scroll, which was basically undefended at the time, for which I was glad. This meant that they stayed away from the actually fun fight we were having with the Red players, instead of doing their normal BS move of running zerg trains on reinforcement route choke points.

Also... About Chalman... Yeah, blues have a fixation on it. It's one of those things. A legacy thing from the days when PVP was blue vs. red and yellow side was a mostly irrelevant. But that thing does swing both way - reds have a tendency to go towards Ales, even if BRK is currently yellow.

But I had a sort of epiphany about that yesterday - I suppose most red players also rather fight with blues instead of being constantly run over by the hordes of AD zerglings.

Now, do not take this the wrong way yellow players - I've met plenty of decent and honorable yellow players and am sure that most of you are just as fine people as anyone else playing this game. So it's not that your side is the problem per se, but at the end of the day, the fact remains: AD have massive numbers on their side, and thus keep ruining the campaign and sucking most of the enjoyment out of it. I mean take yesterday fof example, I logged in at 12.00 since am on winter vacation and was planning on spending the day doing some PVP. That's 10.00 GMT in the morning by the way. And what do I see? Every population, on every other campaign, was at one bar. Except AD on TF - it was at 3. And there they were, raiding a blue scroll and pushing for emperor with ridiculous zerging. When they got it, I logged off and did something else for few hours, 'cause the idea of wasting my time trying to dethrone emperor with so unbalanced population was not appealing.

So yeah... red vs blue is the end result, since those fights at least are mostly even and fun. Fighting yellows is just too *** frustrating to bother with.

Biro123 · December 2016

Hymzir wrote: »

Avaglaor wrote: »

My group spent all the evening trying to split yellows between Drake and Seji so we could get BRK back but we were getting zerged from ADs every single time, at the end everyone joined Chalman's zerg vs zerg vs zerg while 100 yellows taking our keeps and scrolls.
Ash ofc was Yellow again but DC always want their "home keep" Chalman. I'm not loving forum bs at all and I rarely writing on forums...

Well... For what it's worth, there was plenty of DC side zone chatter about the futility of going to Chalman, and that perhaps it would be more useful to head towards Ash. But the end result was, that most people who bothered to comment on the discussion noted that going to Ash was pointless, since that would mean getting run over by a 100 strong Eye of Flame spamming zerg, and that is not fun at all. At least in Chalman you could have decent fights and actually enjoy the game.

I spent several hours trying to get a fight going with AD but only managed to be run over every single time. Even when running solo and encountering half a dozen yellow players, I invariably got spammed with eye of flame and negate (which shut me down since since I run a magicka character) and constant roots - which are also really bad for me since I have low stamina. I'd be lucky to be able to get one or two attacks off before being locked out of magicka skills, rooted/stunned/feared to oblivion, and then killed by eye of flame. It was not fun at all.

In the end, I just gave up, and joined every other blue at Chalman, and actually had a fun and decent fight with the reds, and ended up having a positive feeling when I logged off.

I did note that while that was happening, the AD zerg-horde decided to go for a red scroll, which was basically undefended at the time, for which I was glad. This meant that they stayed away from the actually fun fight we were having with the Red players, instead of doing their normal BS move of running zerg trains on reinforcement route choke points.

Also... About Chalman... Yeah, blues have a fixation on it. It's one of those things. A legacy thing from the days when PVP was blue vs. red and yellow side was a mostly irrelevant. But that thing does swing both way - reds have a tendency to go towards Ales, even if BRK is currently yellow.

But I had a sort of epiphany about that yesterday - I suppose most red players also rather fight with blues instead of being constantly run over by the hordes of AD zerglings.

Now, do not take this the wrong way yellow players - I've met plenty of decent and honorable yellow players and am sure that most of you are just as fine people as anyone else playing this game. So it's not that your side is the problem per se, but at the end of the day, the fact remains: AD have massive numbers on their side, and thus keep ruining the campaign and sucking most of the enjoyment out of it. I mean take yesterday fof example, I logged in at 12.00 since am on winter vacation and was planning on spending the day doing some PVP. That's 10.00 GMT in the morning by the way. And what do I see? Every population, on every other campaign, was at one bar. Except AD on TF - it was at 3. And there they were, raiding a blue scroll and pushing for emperor with ridiculous zerging. When they got it, I logged off and did something else for few hours, 'cause the idea of wasting my time trying to dethrone emperor with so unbalanced population was not appealing.

So yeah... red vs blue is the end result, since those fights at least are mostly even and fun. Fighting yellows is just too *** frustrating to bother with.

This is exactly what I see on TF at the mo (and for the last few months). +1

Although tonight was a bit different wit the shenanegans around Roe.. Blues sieging, yellows holding, red ball group behind blues in and around the farm tower just trying to spoil the fun, then red zerg sieging at the east wall as the blues get into the courtyard.. was fun, but I can't figure out why the red zerg was there..

runningtings · December 2016

Hymzir wrote: »

In the end, I just gave up, and joined every other blue at Chalman, and actually had a fun and decent fight with the reds, and ended up having a positive feeling when I logged off.

I did note that while that was happening, the AD zerg-horde decided to go for a red scroll, which was basically undefended at the time, for which I was glad. This meant that they stayed away from the actually fun fight we were having with the Red players, instead of doing their normal BS move of running zerg trains on reinforcement route choke points.

But I had a sort of epiphany about that yesterday - I suppose most red players also rather fight with blues instead of being constantly run over by the hordes of AD zerglings.

Excellent post, this is it exactly.

AD just run about in storm cloud balls and DC and EP are fed up of these crappy tactics, so we end up fighting between ourselves in a more skill based way.
Some of the Blue v Red mid-scale fights have been enjoyable of late.

Rilmarshim · December 2016

AD are best cus they know how to stack destro ults and choose the best time for playing. :Р

Cogo · December 2016

Orcs rocks. Their Ultis makes 20 pugs use sieges at the same time.

Cogo · December 2016

Master_Kas wrote: »

Join EP if you want most challanging PvP atm since they usually have the lowest queues/populations overall. While AD and DC are pretty equal just taking turns on zerging down the map and PvDooring in the morning.

Actually...what he said. EP rocks if you want action and zone chat whinage.

EP may not have the numbers WORKING TOGETHER, but nothing beats the feeling of crushing 50 yellows and 25 blues with just a small team. Nothing....

prootch · December 2016

Come again, get wiped

Duiwel · March 2017

"Join EP if you want most challanging PvP atm since they usually have the lowest queues/populations overall."

"member of zerg squad"

In general I prefer fighting EP though. AD just come with 2 raids or even 1 AD raid and 1 EP raid but it's the same group...

I'd say best faction is the one you have the most people who you can co-ordinate attacks with. Who has the most skilled players, ect. For me that's DC.

Long live the lion! Also banana split is delicious

Chair · March 2017

Duiwel wrote: »

"Join EP if you want most challanging PvP atm since they usually have the lowest queues/populations overall."

"member of zerg squad"

In general I prefer fighting EP though. AD just come with 2 raids or even 1 AD raid and 1 EP raid but it's the same group...

I'd say best faction is the one you have the most people who you can co-ordinate attacks with. Who has the most skilled players, ect. For me that's DC.

Long live the lion! Also banana split is delicious

Wait who are you again?

Magic_Longsword · March 2017

Chair wrote: »

Duiwel wrote: »

"Join EP if you want most challanging PvP atm since they usually have the lowest queues/populations overall."

"member of zerg squad"

In general I prefer fighting EP though. AD just come with 2 raids or even 1 AD raid and 1 EP raid but it's the same group...

I'd say best faction is the one you have the most people who you can co-ordinate attacks with. Who has the most skilled players, ect. For me that's DC.

Long live the lion! Also banana split is delicious

Wait who are you again?

And who are you?

Should these questions matter? Or are you instantly offended when people do not consider the best players to be on AD? Ego much?

As for the OP, I'd say the best faction depends on the campaign which you play. If you aim for no CP azura, I'd say AD, definitely. You're sure to get PVP right outside of your gates.

On Trueflame, I wouldn't advise EP. While in primetime, all 3 factions zerg equally, in off-peak hours, there are little to no EP around, which makes small to middle scale fights difficult. Also, with the lack of defenders, EP gets gate camped that much faster, and riding from the base to chal / brk ain't much fun.

I'd say go DC on TF in off-peak hours. At least you'll be sure to have other blues around trying to smallscale or placing camps around Ash farm for when you inevitably get rekt by the AD trains.

You should also note that the most competent or experienced small group players tend to be on DC. Should you for instance go to Ash farm or Lumber when it flips, you'll find it that you have more chances at surviving with those guys than EP randoms. I could give names of players I keep seing around at any non - prime time hour of day and night, but I'm not sure it's allowed, even if it is to indirectly praise them.

Bam_Bam · March 2017

Which server are you on about? I'm guessing TF? Because on AS the amount of smurfs is pretty darned amazing. Wasn't too bad when each alliance had 3 main(ish) guilds and random but the last few weeks DC has just exploded in size.

Magic_Longsword · March 2017

I said TF like 3 times in my post. DC is cancer on azura.

Turelus · March 2017

Town Guard Faction.

They've still never lost a fight, even in 1vX they can tank everyone.