Wayyy more lag with no CP

SaRuZ
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There is WAY more lag in Xbox NA Haderus than there was with CP. it's unplayable.
  • hmsdragonfly
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    Less lag on PC EU. (not that these 2 baseless statements of you and me will help)
    Edited by hmsdragonfly on February 28, 2017 5:06AM
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  • JamieAubrey
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    Less lag on PC EU. (not that these 2 baseless statements of you and me will help)

    Hmm,, when I got on after 130+ There was a ton of lag at Ash, with all sides fighting, I didn't know if my skills wear going out half the time
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    Less lag on PC EU. (not that these 2 baseless statements of you and me will help)

    Hmm,, when I got on after 130+ There was a ton of lag at Ash, with all sides fighting, I didn't know if my skills wear going out half the time
    130+ Ping? you must be miserable..... If you cannot tell I am being sarcastic as my average Ping is more then double that.

    Edited by TX12001rwb17_ESO on February 28, 2017 5:40AM
  • UrQuan
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    Less lag on PC EU. (not that these 2 baseless statements of you and me will help)

    Hmm,, when I got on after 130+ There was a ton of lag at Ash, with all sides fighting, I didn't know if my skills wear going out half the time
    130+ Ping? you must be miserable..... If you cannot tell I am being sarcastic as my average Ping is more then double that.
    I don't think he's talking about 130+ ping, I think he's talking about a campaign queue of 130+. Correct me if I'm wrong @JamieAubrey.
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    I did not get more but I didn't get less either.
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  • Balibe
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    Maybe it is because a lot more people are playing for the double AP creating more load of people instead of less CP ......

    Nothing will be known until the weeks test results are provided to us .....

    Hint, Hint ZOS ..... please let us know the test results and your findings .....
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    Still had about the same amount of ping in PvP during a massive fight that I would in PvE standing at a wayshrine with nothing going on. Only had an FPS drop when a ton of ultimates went off simultaneously.
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  • dancouga
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    I never get double AP because I'm constantly kicked when sieging or defending. After I re-login, siege/defense is done. Zero AP. :'(

  • JamieAubrey
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    UrQuan wrote: »
    Less lag on PC EU. (not that these 2 baseless statements of you and me will help)

    Hmm,, when I got on after 130+ There was a ton of lag at Ash, with all sides fighting, I didn't know if my skills wear going out half the time
    130+ Ping? you must be miserable..... If you cannot tell I am being sarcastic as my average Ping is more then double that.
    I don't think he's talking about 130+ ping, I think he's talking about a campaign queue of 130+. Correct me if I'm wrong @JamieAubrey.

    Yeah that was queue, sorry I didn't clarify, what's wrong with 130 ping ? I'm running 100-115 now in an empty campaign atm and thats just standing still, will drop down to teh 60s
    Edited by JamieAubrey on February 28, 2017 6:32AM
  • hmsdragonfly
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    Less lag on PC EU. (not that these 2 baseless statements of you and me will help)

    Hmm,, when I got on after 130+ There was a ton of lag at Ash, with all sides fighting, I didn't know if my skills wear going out half the time

    Ofc it will still be laggy in big battles. Nothing can be done about it. Outside of that, you are fine. I remember the massive lag in TF even when you are in the middle of nowhere.
    Edited by hmsdragonfly on February 28, 2017 6:33AM
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  • Seraphayel
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    So we can come to the conclusion the problems are existing due to a) too many players and b) to much server load with CP and all of its needed calculations.

    How will ZOS solve this? They won't. PvP was a mess long before CP and they were not able to at least improve the situation.
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  • SleepyTroll
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    Im noticing a trend with all these threads its all consoles
  • Torbschka
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    Im noticing a trend with all these threads its all consoles

    Its not any hard data, but my experience on Ps4 pro is: no lag (skills function the moment i use them), but fps drops down to 15-20 fps in large battles.

    So my conclusion so far (personal based): it does reduce lag, but consoles cant handle large battles (fps). Maybe it has to do something with the Server, but it feels more like a Hardware issue

    I think many people make the assumption : Bad fps = lag, for me these are 2 different, but maybe the fps is Bad cuz of lag, I dont know about such things.
  • mtwiggz
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    Balibe wrote: »
    Maybe it is because a lot more people are playing for the double AP creating more load of people instead of less CP ......

    Nothing will be known until the weeks test results are provided to us .....

    Hint, Hint ZOS ..... please let us know the test results and your findings .....

    The campaigns hold a certain amount of players. So regardless of how many people are playing a population locked campaign is a population locked campaign. More people may be in queue than normal, but if the campaign is full it's the same as any other day that the campaign is full.
    Edited by mtwiggz on February 28, 2017 6:56AM
  • mtwiggz
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    Seraphayel wrote: »
    So we can come to the conclusion the problems are existing due to a) too many players and b) to much server load with CP and all of its needed calculations.

    How will ZOS solve this? They won't. PvP was a mess long before CP and they were not able to at least improve the situation.

    This I agree with. PvP was a performance nightmare far before CP was involved. Removing CP isn't the answer.

    It's nice that they're actually trying something for a change. Yet this idea isn't the greatest. I still hold hope that in some way, shape or form, this will provide some kind of data to at least rule out options of what they can do. Which will hopefully lead them closer to an actual fix.
  • Skullz11c
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    I have noticed no real difference. can't say its better or worse..
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  • silky_soft
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    Lagging to the *** on PC NA TF. 380ms constant, slide show starts when pact roll in.

    Better get back to resource and keep flag trading. Thanks for double xp.
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    Until they officially support multicore threading and possibly update to a faster more stable direct x there is only so far you can get.
  • dancouga
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    I'm at PC NA. There is no lag around a month ago. History is like: Homestead -> no one played pvp -> DC **** all for some weeks -> people got back Cyrodiil -> 999+ introduced

    Edited by dancouga on February 28, 2017 7:20AM
  • SnubbS
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    It seems a bit laggier, but only a bit. I wouldn't attribute the slight increase in lag to anything other than more players in more spots. I'm firmly against the removal of cp, but I actually did think it would help -- at least a little bit -- and we'd be going down the road to permanent no cp, and that would be the final nail in the coffin for 1vX. But nope -- it's done nothing.
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  • Seraphayel
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    Torbschka wrote: »
    Im noticing a trend with all these threads its all consoles

    Its not any hard data, but my experience on Ps4 pro is: no lag (skills function the moment i use them), but fps drops down to 15-20 fps in large battles.

    So my conclusion so far (personal based): it does reduce lag, but consoles cant handle large battles (fps). Maybe it has to do something with the Server, but it feels more like a Hardware issue

    I think many people make the assumption : Bad fps = lag, for me these are 2 different, but maybe the fps is Bad cuz of lag, I dont know about such things.

    There are frame lags AND connection lags. Sometime the game disconnects in huge battles but lags (resulting into skill delays, e.g. your skill activates 3, 4 seconds later than you pressed the button) are also occurring when I am playing solo (XBox). I recently got many disconnects when doing Dolmens, even when I am alone or only 2-3 people are there. So it's not only console power that causes problems, the ESO servers are just bad. Really bad.

    None of the issues is PC or console exclusive. The problems occur on every platform and on every server.
    Edited by Seraphayel on February 28, 2017 8:08AM
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  • hmsdragonfly
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    Seraphayel wrote: »
    Torbschka wrote: »
    Im noticing a trend with all these threads its all consoles

    Its not any hard data, but my experience on Ps4 pro is: no lag (skills function the moment i use them), but fps drops down to 15-20 fps in large battles.

    So my conclusion so far (personal based): it does reduce lag, but consoles cant handle large battles (fps). Maybe it has to do something with the Server, but it feels more like a Hardware issue

    I think many people make the assumption : Bad fps = lag, for me these are 2 different, but maybe the fps is Bad cuz of lag, I dont know about such things.

    There are frame lags AND connection lags. Sometime the game disconnects in huge battles but lags (resulting into skill delays, e.g. your skill activates 3, 4 seconds later than you pressed the button) are also occurring when I am playing solo (XBox). I recently got many disconnects when doing Dolmens, even when I am alone or only 2-3 people are there. So it's not only console power that causes problems, the ESO servers are just bad. Really bad.

    None of the issues is PC or console exclusive. The problems occur on every platform and on every server.

    How do you know :O You gather data on your own? D: I notice less lag on PC EU (not that it means anything).

    Good thing there are hard data and no one looks on forums for people's "opinions" of technical issues, because we players usually talk gibberish lel. Some players think it's "way more lag" because FPS drops- in 50v50 zerg battle.

    Edited by hmsdragonfly on February 28, 2017 8:29AM
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  • AFrostWolf
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    PC NA Blackwater blade, was the no CP low level pvp campaign and it never lagged. Now it's lagging soooo bad.
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    The thing you gotta realize, folks, is that no-CP isn't causing any lag. On the flip side of that same coin, CP has not been causing all lag to this point. Population is the biggest cause of lag, and they're using double AP to lag it up this way to see if there is any difference now, internally, between that lag CP campaigns historically got.
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  • Seraphayel
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    Seraphayel wrote: »
    Torbschka wrote: »
    Im noticing a trend with all these threads its all consoles

    Its not any hard data, but my experience on Ps4 pro is: no lag (skills function the moment i use them), but fps drops down to 15-20 fps in large battles.

    So my conclusion so far (personal based): it does reduce lag, but consoles cant handle large battles (fps). Maybe it has to do something with the Server, but it feels more like a Hardware issue

    I think many people make the assumption : Bad fps = lag, for me these are 2 different, but maybe the fps is Bad cuz of lag, I dont know about such things.

    There are frame lags AND connection lags. Sometime the game disconnects in huge battles but lags (resulting into skill delays, e.g. your skill activates 3, 4 seconds later than you pressed the button) are also occurring when I am playing solo (XBox). I recently got many disconnects when doing Dolmens, even when I am alone or only 2-3 people are there. So it's not only console power that causes problems, the ESO servers are just bad. Really bad.

    None of the issues is PC or console exclusive. The problems occur on every platform and on every server.

    How do you know :O You gather data on your own? D: I notice less lag on PC EU (not that it means anything).

    Good thing there are hard data and no one looks on forums for people's "opinions" of technical issues, because we players usually talk gibberish lel. Some players think it's "way more lag" because FPS drops- in 50v50 zerg battle.

    I gather(ed) data on my own, yes. I played on PC, PS4 and then switched to XOne. I had lags on every platform and on every server. And I am 100% sure that it's not my connection because I can play every other game without lags. It's pretty easy to come to this conclusion and everybody who states he / she never experienced any lags or issues is a) playing very early in the morning when only few players are only and the server load is not much or b) never played PvP. Nobody who ever was in Cyrodiil for more than 5 minutes and participated in huge sieges can tell me that they never experienced any lags, let it be frame or latency issues. Some of the problems are so present and even acknowledged by ZOS that everybody who's saying “I don't have any problems at all“ is lying or just spending a minimal time in ESO / Cyrodiil.
    Edited by Seraphayel on February 28, 2017 9:04AM
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    My game is crashing a lot more and having issues switching weapons more than before.
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  • IlCanis_LupuslI
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    SaRuZ wrote: »
    There is WAY more lag in Xbox NA Haderus than there was with CP. it's unplayable.

    A Bit less lag on Xbox Eu, hardy noticable
    What is noticable is the 30% less damage output and 15 percent increased ability cost. Cost increase poisons are soooo OP now you literally run dry in seconds
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  • psychotic13
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    SaRuZ wrote: »
    There is WAY more lag in Xbox NA Haderus than there was with CP. it's unplayable.

    A Bit less lag on Xbox Eu, hardy noticable
    What is noticable is the 30% less damage output and 15 percent increased ability cost. Cost increase poisons are soooo OP now you literally run dry in seconds

    Xbox EU is terrible for me, and everyone else I spoke to on there said the same. The problem is the population has increased loads cause everyone's stacking APs while they can and unlocking vigor ect on alts. It's literally a Zerg fest it's horrible
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    EU/PC Haderus.

    Loading screens lasted forever for some of us, I finally reached front of queue and got in, wanted to go to the bank, a 5 min loading screen

    Most other loading screens weren't too bad for me, but were for other members of my group, to the point where one refused to teleport, instead riding to wherever we were going as she felt it was quicker.

    Didn't experience too much lag (was a little) but didn't have any huge fights, instead we took over empty places for AP


    Edited by Ojustaboo on February 28, 2017 11:43AM
  • Jamini
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    A Bit less lag on Xbox Eu, hardy noticable
    What is noticable is the 30% less damage output and 15 percent increased ability cost. Cost increase poisons are soooo OP now you literally run dry in seconds

    Only if you don't run a sustain set. :->
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