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[VIDEOS] Cloak being broken and cyrodiil being broken

Inig0
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Cloak being broken with force pulse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5qtlw9OzOk
Ambushing into the void then login page
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  • RinaldoGandolphi
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    Cloak is not being broken by force pulse it's being broken by lag. The players in question casts and landed those skills before you ever cloaked (on their screen) because you was behind the action

    Your PR was 140, anything above 120 and you can forget about what's happening on your screen being up to date.

    simply put, lag is what broke your Cloak. There are many other skills that get broke with lag too sadly
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  • cameron90_ESO
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    Seems to happen every patch cycle. Certain cloak bugs get fixed but they throw in some fresh cloak bugs that remain for months until the next patch for the cycle to renew.
  • mtwiggz
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    Cloak is just as broken as it's ever been. On PTS it was working quite well, but there is virtually no lag on PTS. Being pulled out by random blades of grass and a swift wind in the wrong direction.

    At least it used to purge some DoTs, now it's mostly just a magicka dump with no utility value.
  • olsborg
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    Someone could also have detection pot up, but yea, cloak isnt fixed by a long shot this patch, happens to me all the time in 80-90 ping too.

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  • Inig0
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    Cloak is not being broken by force pulse it's being broken by lag. The players in question casts and landed those skills before you ever cloaked (on their screen) because you was behind the action

    Your PR was 140, anything above 120 and you can forget about what's happening on your screen being up to date.

    simply put, lag is what broke your Cloak. There are many other skills that get broke with lag too sadly

    While your assumption to blame lag as the reason why i was brought out of stealth is warranted and holds some ground I still feel like you're missing the point. The point is -- at least from what ive experience -- that cloak used to work under the same circumstances if not worse before they broke it (i.e HIGH PING). Ive been playing nb a long time you see; since CP came out if im not mistaken and back in the day something like a forcepulse at 140 pr would not have brought me out like it does today.

    I used to be able to use cloak as a form of mitigation like dks use permablock, like sorcs use shields, and like templars use burst heals. Cloak is nb's best form of mitigation. While it seems a bit op that you can just invis and not take damage (it is honestly) there are some really big downsides. Namely, the counter play completely breaks the mit. If some one breaks that stealth you just used 3.5-4k mag and got nowhere. People used to have to use specific skills to get nbs out of cloak the same way if you wanted to get through dks mitigation youd slot a specific skill or templar youd use some form of defile. The point is nb's as a class has lost their best form of mitigation that make the class unique.

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  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Cloaks been broken so long now I just gave up and think of it as RNG . Maybe I'm cloaked ... Maybe I'm not .
  • Iyas
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    Cloak is fine
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  • Berenhir
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    Second video: your client lost connection. Everything except yourself freezes. If you block, block won't drop after releasing it. Happens e.g. during 24h reset of your router etc.

    First video: not sure if your opponent didn't pop a stealth detect potion before. That's what I always do when my sorc is getting stealthbushed. But yeah, "lag" is the other explanation.
    Usually there is a delay/inaccuracy of positioning and skillusage of at least 1 second, even if your ping shows perfectly normal values.
    Trust me, I play with my girlfriend in the same room and when I look on her screen and compare it to mine it's just hilarious. Like she is running 10m in front of me on her screen, but I can't see her on my screen because she is far behind me.
    Edited by Berenhir on February 25, 2017 8:57AM
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  • Derra
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    olsborg wrote: »
    Someone could also have detection pot up, but yea, cloak isnt fixed by a long shot this patch, happens to me all the time in 80-90 ping too.

    Ironically detection pots don´t do jack *** against cloak.

    The skill still misses (if it´s a ranged projectile) and the nb does not get put out of cloak - even though you theoretically see them with your detect pot active.
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  • Chair
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    In my experience cloak is fine if not better this patch, as derra said it also broken on detect pots.
    Edited by Chair on February 25, 2017 12:52PM
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  • Inig0
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    Im not sure why people think there was a detect pot. He would have hit me @ 13 seconds in the video if there was a detect pot. Use your *** heads
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  • Minno
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    Wouldn't the dmg from sorc's lighting pull you out of stealth?
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    And judging from the way that two hander stam player is still in execute animation and able to cast it again, that tells me it was lag; you were seeing attacks with late registration.
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  • silky_soft
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    Cloak uses to work on my 300 ping before cleanse was removed. It's been broke ever since.
    This recent update has made me sad. Sad for the game. Sad for the community. Sad to pay whatever it is now. I want the previous eso back.
  • thankyourat
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    silky_soft wrote: »
    Cloak uses to work on my 300 ping before cleanse was removed. It's been broke ever since.

    It's been reliable enough for me to put it back on my bar and drop annulment. But it's nothing compared to when the purge was there. It should've never been removed. Magblade mobility had been hurting ever since
  • olsborg
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    Derra wrote: »
    olsborg wrote: »
    Someone could also have detection pot up, but yea, cloak isnt fixed by a long shot this patch, happens to me all the time in 80-90 ping too.

    Ironically detection pots don´t do jack *** against cloak.

    The skill still misses (if it´s a ranged projectile) and the nb does not get put out of cloak - even though you theoretically see them with your detect pot active.

    Yes, its a magicka issue, wich should have been fixed ages ago. My poison injection and melee skills have no problem hitting cloakers when my det pot is up, but I do seem to remember my sorcs CF fizzling af, annoying I know @Derra :) But this is eso.

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